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    Quote Originally Posted by littleowl View Post
    That is about the same here! I am close to 3c drop in temps also.
    Like I said we tend to do better against the 1+ month cured pastes and about 3C against the fresh install comparisons which is pretty close to what I get on a bench test @ 100W obviously if you are running 150W the delta would be higher around 5 C and 50W 1-2 C.

    There are some very competitive performance pastes out there but I do not expect them to really test any better performance wise I had one formulation of our grease that had performance of 10WmK and was only .5C better @ 100 W Plus when you measure the resistance across the compound with thermocouple in-sink and in-die the temp drop was only 1.1-1.2 C @ 100W - Not much left to improve upon except the reliability/longevity

    On the initial completed giveaways the averages have not changed much since the initial sample of around 30. Averaging is great stuff and the data suggests solutions like application amount, methods for optimization, trouble shooting etc.

    You guys (this group )have given me a good education of the current state of the art on mounting hardware and several potential options for refining our message and trouble shooting guide. You are prime candidates for doing a similar beta test on our upcoming Thermosyphon. Good stuff, thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by tastymannatees View Post
    Like I said we tend to do better against the 1+ month cured pastes and about 3C against the fresh install comparisons which is pretty close to what I get on a bench test @ 100W obviously if you are running 150W the delta would be higher around 5 C and 50W 1-2 C.

    There are some very competitive performance pastes out there but I do not expect them to really test any better performance wise I had one formulation of our grease that had performance of 10WmK and was only .5C better @ 100 W Plus when you measure the resistance across the compound with thermocouple in-sink and in-die the temp drop was only 1.1-1.2 C @ 100W - Not much left to improve upon except the reliability/longevity

    On the initial completed giveaways the averages have not changed much since the initial sample of around 30. Averaging is great stuff and the data suggests solutions like application amount, methods for optimization, trouble shooting etc.

    You guys (this group )have given me a good education of the current state of the art on mounting hardware and several potential options for refining our message and trouble shooting guide. You are prime candidates for doing a similar beta test on our upcoming Thermosyphon. Good stuff, thanks
    Thermosiphon (alt. thermosyphon) refers to a method of passive heat exchange based on natural convection which circulates liquid in a vertical closed-loop circuit without requiring a conventional pump. Its intended purpose is to simplify the pumping of liquid and/or heat transfer, by avoiding the cost and complexity of a conventional liquid pump.
    That sounds interesting. Care to explain, or aren't you allowed to disclose any information yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tastymannatees View Post
    Like I said we tend to do better against the 1+ month cured pastes and about 3C against the fresh install comparisons which is pretty close to what I get on a bench test @ 100W obviously if you are running 150W the delta would be higher around 5 C and 50W 1-2 C.

    There are some very competitive performance pastes out there but I do not expect them to really test any better performance wise I had one formulation of our grease that had performance of 10WmK and was only .5C better @ 100 W Plus when you measure the resistance across the compound with thermocouple in-sink and in-die the temp drop was only 1.1-1.2 C @ 100W - Not much left to improve upon except the reliability/longevity

    On the initial completed giveaways the averages have not changed much since the initial sample of around 30. Averaging is great stuff and the data suggests solutions like application amount, methods for optimization, trouble shooting etc.

    You guys (this group )have given me a good education of the current state of the art on mounting hardware and several potential options for refining our message and trouble shooting guide. You are prime candidates for doing a similar beta test on our upcoming Thermosyphon. Good stuff, thanks

    I am also interested. can you tell us more?



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    Yes, please do. Though I suppose we should start a new thread for it, to be consistent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleowl View Post
    I am also interested. can you tell us more?
    Off and on again project. Advantages are cost and size, we might make a few units for the performance market but that's not the target, performance as good as any tower and that's about it and all I can say at this point. This group with a beta test would be a good way to work out any kinks as you guys are the TIM and sink experts.

    I also got the 24 carat tubes today and should be available by the end of the week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tastymannatees View Post
    Like I said we tend to do better against the 1+ month cured pastes and about 3C against the fresh install comparisons which is pretty close to what I get on a bench test @ 100W obviously if you are running 150W the delta would be higher around 5 C and 50W 1-2 C.
    that is a huge statement, i completley ignored/forgot about processor wattage, my x2 4200 is a 65W version and your statement explains completely why i'm not seeing an improvement but no more than 1-2C worse during fluctuation (i'll summarize all my results as soon as i can from each paste - AS5, Shin Etsu and D7)
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    Quote Originally Posted by 64dragon View Post
    that is a huge statement, i completley ignored/forgot about processor wattage, my x2 4200 is a 65W version and your statement explains completely why i'm not seeing an improvement but no more than 1-2C worse during fluctuation (i'll summarize all my results as soon as i can from each paste - AS5, Shin Etsu and D7)
    I was going to ask the forum members when I first started these beta tests to supply the wattages but it is kind of a pita. I have sampled some of the wattages but will I go back later and do them all, the advantage being I can then generate a chart of wattage vs thermal performance for the average user.

    acquiring the data is tough But the information is valuable i.e. I should be able to generate other graphs showing things like thermal performance vs reliability over time, thermal performance vs pressure etc.

    My ultimate goal is to have the average user log onto our site view a few simple charts like the one I posted earlier and leave with a full understanding of how our compound works and what to expect if he would apply it in his own system. Maybe with that knowledge in hand I make another sale which is the ultimate goal.

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