** OFFICIAL ** Intel DX38BT & DX48BT2 BoneTrail Thread

[xMrBunglex]

please try not to quadruple and 10-tuple post so much. it will clutter this thread and make it harder for us to use it as a reference.

[RRGHOST2006]

MB when I finally get my system stable I will be sure
to delete all my failed attempt and
I will be sure to post what worked
but for now I am using them as a reference

Sorry

[s0lid]

No need to wonder how he got 100 posts in so short time

[xMrBunglex]

use a piece of paper

[RRGHOST2006]

its also to let everyone who cares what I have tried
Look there have been multiple references to previous
statements and tests I have posted and as far as I am
concerned no one would have been able to help me
get as far as I am now if I had not posted those
so, like I said after and If I can finally figure out how to
get this system stable or at least figure out if I have
bad ram or not I can assure you I will delete all previous
posts .........

I honestly can't understand why its such a big deal
I didnt wait a week to finally get my name approved
by the admins here, to be criticized for posting

The sooner I get this problem solved the sooner I honor
my name and dissapear

I appologize to anyone I offended who reads this!

[s0lid]

One request: use dots after every phrase. Keeps text much enjoyable to read

[RRGHOST2006]

No need to wonder how he got 100 posts in so short time

Ahhh you mean like you did here .
LOL ... Dots or smilies its all the same
right

use a piece of paper

I really feel like I'm being hated on about now
Hmmm or do you mean like he did here
hahaha, LOL

I have one request

Practice what you preach !!!!

&@$";/)$@"):-@

[Manel]

Ghost
I'm glad you have your problem almost solved, but contrary to these guys I don't see a problem with the posts. I believe this is exactly why we're all here, to share our experiences.
Why can't you guys stop picking on him? You should be glad your help was of use.
I understand it's a lot of posts but maybe this much info was what shed some light on what was going on and helped in the end.
Regarding the dots, he's not the only one not using them. Following the same line of thought, why use smilies?
Give the man a break, feel good about another BT not taking the best over a friend here.
Ghost, don't feel driven away, keep at it and keep us posted.

[RRGHOST2006]

I will , and thanks Manel It's good
to see not everyone hates me.

[Manel]

Nah, no one hates you here!!
So, with all this, where do you stand? How's your system doing? Can you POST and boot normally to Windows at default and overclocked?
I was wondering if your mem modules are compatible with X38, there are some specs that need to be met. If those are high density modules, probably double sided (chips on both sides of the PCB) than you need to make those are in a x8 configuration, x16 is not supported, see http://www.intel.com/support/motherb.../CS-028330.htm, but if that was the case you probably would get the 3 dreaded beeps always.

[RRGHOST2006]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820220286


Manel these are the modules i am using

I think im getting there i can post with 4 gigs (both sticks)
in the black slots, i have the ram turned all the way down
I can boot to bios after about 5 tries, running 433 i never tried to go any higher i dont want to damage anything
when trying to use the XMP PROFILE 1
My system still fails to boot
idk what that is all about but i am home from work now
so i will continue my tests

Brand Patriot
Series Viper
Model PVS34G1333LLK
Type 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM
Tech Spec
Capacity 4GB (2 x 2GB)
Speed DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)
Cas Latency 7
Timing 7-7-7-20
Voltage 1.7V
Heat Spreader Yes
Features Equipped Patriot Viper Heat Shields with integrated ACC (Aluminum Copper Composite) technology
RoHS Compliant
XMP Ready
these are all the specs i can get from it
but i did notice 1 user had to put the voltage to 1.66v in order to get.
his board to post at 1333mhz
i am now going to try that


Pros: Snaps firmly into place and runs with MoBo set to default discovery. Runs very fast in benchmark testing.
Cons: I took an egg away, the memory is rated at 1333Mhz and 1.7v but MoBo senses 1033Mhz at default settings and somewhat less than the promised 1.7v. When forced up to 1.7v, the dreaded IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL rears it's ugly head. I had to dummy down to the next highest setting, 1.66v but at least I could still force it up to 1333MHz without stability issues.
Other Thoughts: I'm not going to return these because of the .04v difference but I would have liked the memory to perform as specified. It would have saved me a lot of unrelated trouble shooting

Im not sure what mobo he is using but I am going to try it on mine and hopefully that will solve my nightmare.............................

three goes that idea.........

it wont post

even with 1333/default 1.66v

fsb 333

power settings up

here are the features pulled from the PATRIOT website

Extreme Performance PC3-10666 (1333MHz)
Low Latency (7-7-7-20)
Equipped Patriot Viper Heat Shields with integrated ACC (Aluminum Copper Composite) technology
100% Tested and Verified
Lifetime Warranty
RoHS Compliant
XMP Ready
Tested and compatible with Intel P35 and X38 chipsets

watchdog is off

RF 800 / 200 is what i am currently trying to boot with.

1066 i do believe at one time i did boot from that

but 1333 never had that happen yet..............

ok with the
(((((( CPU ))))))
CPU Voltage : DEFAULT
CPU Voltage : Disabled
Enhanced Power Slope : Enabled
Front Side Bus V Override : 1.400
MCH/ICH Voltage Override : 1.400
Process Multiplier : 9
Host Clock Frequency Override : 433

(((((RAM)))))

Reference Frequency : 200
Memory Frequency : 800
7-7-7-20
Memory Voltage : 1.54
Command Rate : AUTO

I AM IN BIOS

Ghost,
Are you running with the watchdog timer on or off? Did you ever get it to boot with the Reference Frequency set to anything other than Default?

With 1 stick default works but with 2 never had that happen yet

[Anubi]

Ghost,
Are you running with the watchdog timer on or off? Did you ever get it to boot with the Reference Frequency set to anything other than Default?

[gtj]

I will , and thanks Manel It's good
to see not everyone hates me.

No one hates you but I think you've broken some kind of record.

Anyway I always chuckle when I check in and see your new posts.

[RRGHOST2006]

Thanks GTJ hey help me out here ?

Hey i want to try and loosen my timings what are good numbers for me to do this ?

currently 7 -7 - 7 - 20

[gtj]

Hey i want to try and loosen my timings what are good numbers for me to do this ?

currently 7 -7 - 7 - 20

Try 8-8-8-24

[RRGHOST2006]

ok thanks

ok with the
(((((( CPU ))))))
CPU Voltage : DEFAULT
CPU Voltage : Disabled
Enhanced Power Slope : Enabled
Front Side Bus V Override : 1.400
MCH/ICH Voltage Override : 1.400
Process Multiplier : 9
Host Clock Frequency Override : 325

(((((RAM)))))

Reference Frequency : 400
Memory Frequency : 800
8-8-8-24
Memory Voltage : 1.54
Command Rate : AUTO

i am in bios

WHERE SHOULD I TRY TO GO FROM HERE ?

ok with the
(((((( CPU ))))))
CPU Voltage : DEFAULT
CPU Voltage : Disabled
Enhanced Power Slope : Enabled
Front Side Bus V Override : 1.400
MCH/ICH Voltage Override : 1.400
Process Multiplier : 9
Host Clock Frequency Override : 325

(((((RAM)))))

Reference Frequency : 400
Memory Frequency : 1066********************
8-8-8-24
Memory Voltage : 1.54
Command Rate : AUTO

i am in bios

ok with the
(((((( CPU ))))))
CPU Voltage : DEFAULT
CPU Voltage : Disabled
Enhanced Power Slope : Enabled
Front Side Bus V Override : 1.400
MCH/ICH Voltage Override : 1.400
Process Multiplier : 9
Host Clock Frequency Override : 325

(((((RAM)))))

Reference Frequency : 400***********
Memory Frequency : 1333 *****************
8-8-8-24
Memory Voltage : 1.54
Command Rate : AUTO

i am in bios

ok with the
(((((( CPU ))))))
CPU Voltage : DEFAULT
CPU Voltage : Disabled
Enhanced Power Slope : Enabled
Front Side Bus V Override : 1.400
MCH/ICH Voltage Override : 1.400
Process Multiplier : 9
Host Clock Frequency Override : 333

(((((RAM)))))

Reference Frequency : 400***********
Memory Frequency : 1333 *****************
8-8-8-24
Memory Voltage : 1.54
Command Rate : AUTO

I AM NOW STRESS TESTING WITH ORTHOS

HEY I WANT TO START RAISING MY TIMINGS DO I DO THAT 1 BY ONE OR ALL AT ONCE IN OTHER WORDS
MY TIMINGS ARE CURRENTLY

8-8-8-24
SHOULD I MAKE THEM 7-8-8-24
OR 7-7-7-20

35 Minutes And Stable In Orthos

Running 2 Windows

1 For Cpu 0-1
1 For Cpu 2-3

1 Hour And Stable In Orthos

I'm Not Sure If I Should Drop The Frequency To 333 Or Leave It At 400

But I Want To Try And Tighten The Timings

Hmmmmmmmmmm..... Decisions , Decisions

ok with the
(((((( CPU ))))))
CPU Voltage : DEFAULT
CPU Voltage : Disabled
Enhanced Power Slope : Enabled
Front Side Bus V Override : 1.400
MCH/ICH Voltage Override : 1.400
Process Multiplier : 9
Host Clock Frequency Override : 400

(((((RAM)))))

Reference Frequency : 400***********
Memory Frequency : 1600 *****************
8-8-8-24
Memory Voltage : 1.54
Command Rate : AUTO

RESULT = FAIL

Well After Finally Getting The Mobo To 400/1333

And Trying To Take The Fsb To 400
And Ram Mem Frequency To 1600

Then Going To Maintenacnce Mode Changing Things Back To Original
Post I Here By Confirm All Settings Must Go Back To Auto
Then Proceed To Overclock Again
Because No Matter What I Have Tried No Post

So Here We Go And This May Help One Of You Guys Out There Because I Remember In Seans Message I Read To Change Then Boot Back To Normal

Well In My Case That Is Not Going To Happen As May Be Yours!

ok with the
(((((( CPU ))))))
CPU Voltage : DEFAULT
CPU Voltage : Disabled
Enhanced Power Slope : Enabled
Front Side Bus V Override : 1.400
MCH/ICH Voltage Override : 1.400
Process Multiplier : 9
Host Clock Frequency Override : 333

(((((RAM)))))

Reference Frequency : 400***********
Memory Frequency : 1333 *****************
8-8-8-24
Memory Voltage : 1.54
Command Rate : AUTO

USING THESE SETTINGS BIOS WILL NOT POST NOW?

END RESULT = IT MUST BE DONE IN A STEP BY STEP PROCESS
IT CAN NOT BE DONE ALL AT ONCE WITH THIS BEING THE CASE I AM WONDERING WILL IT ALLOW ME TO TIGHTEN MY TIMINGS AFTER I REACH WHAT I CURRENTLY WAS TESTING IN ORTHOS ?

I DID IT

I AM CURRENTLY STRESS TESTING IN ORTHOS

(((((( CPU ))))))
CPU Voltage : DEFAULT
CPU Voltage : Disabled
Enhanced Power Slope : Enabled
Front Side Bus V Override : 1.400
MCH/ICH Voltage Override : 1.400
Process Multiplier : 9
Host Clock Frequency Override :333

(((((RAM)))))

Reference Frequency : 333***********
Memory Frequency : 1333 *****************
7-7-7-20
Memory Voltage : 1.54
Command Rate : AUTO

[xMrBunglex]

please try not to quadruple and 10-tuple post so much. it will clutter this thread and make it harder for us to use it as a reference.

that's all i said. i said it politely and i didn't insult you. now shut up. my god, it took you four individual posts just to respond to that. there are thousands of members on this forum. imagine what it would be like if everyone posted 10 messages in a row. it would be unreadable.

[Vapor]

Okay, thread reopened.

Merged all the double+ posts...sorry to everyone who had to try to suffer through that. It was a horrible, horrible disrespect to forum etiquette.

[Anubi]

(((((( CPU ))))))
CPU Voltage : DEFAULT
CPU Voltage : Disabled
Enhanced Power Slope : Enabled
Front Side Bus V Override : 1.400
MCH/ICH Voltage Override : 1.400
Process Multiplier : 9
Host Clock Frequency Override :333

(((((RAM)))))

Reference Frequency : 333***********
Memory Frequency : 1333 *****************
7-7-7-20
Memory Voltage : 1.54
Command Rate : AUTO

Ghost,
This seems to be your best settings yet, from here I'd recommend you try increasing your Host Clock. You know how high your FSB could go by it self, and how high your CPU could go by itself. Now this will tell you the limits of your memory. And you might try bumping back up your timings to 8-8-8-24 when you run into the limit at 7-7-7-20.

[Sean-E-Boy]

anyone know any reasons as to why setting the multi to manual and reducing it wont hold past BIOS? get into windows and cpuz and windows and Sandra and others all say that the multi is at 10 instead of at the reduced level?

[xMrBunglex]

Sean, i'm surprised CPU-Z shows your multiplier at 10, considering C1E is always active on this motherboard. my multi is always at 6 instead of the default 9 when i'm idle because of C1E. are you using a program or driver to force C1E off in Windows?

Ghost, i'll keep my fingers crossed for you as you push beyond 333 FSB. i also have a set of Patriot Viper memory (the 1600, not the 1333) and it's a modest overclocker. if you hit your memory's limit and want to continue overclocking your CPU, i'd suggest using a divider - like 333/1066 ref. frequencies or 266/800. that way you can push your CPU further without hitting the memory wall.

and for everyone else - this screenshot shows what i like best about this motherboard. the simple aluminum NB heatsink on this board looks positively pathetic compared to all the copper monstrosities found on Asus and Gigabyte boards now. this screenshot was taken after seven hours of Orthos with my FSB at 445 MHz and no fan on the north bridge. i didn't even replace the stock thermal pads with AS5. this is all bone stock and passively cooled:



28°C

[Randy]

Thanks GTJ hey help me out here ?

Hey i want to try and loosen my timings what are good numbers for me to do this ?

currently 7 -7 - 7 - 20

Have you tried increasing the memory voltage ? It looks like you are trying to run it at 1.54 ?

Your system would the the first I've heard of here that someone had to DECREASE the memory voltage below rated specs to run faster. I think the Patriot like more volts, try 1.78 or 1.8 and see where you get.

[Sean-E-Boy]

MB,

Maybe i should have made myself more clear.

at idle, the multi will drop to 6, but if i manually set it to anything below 10 in the BIOS it does not seem to matter. If i open a program, say adobe after effects or run orthos or something, it jumps up to 10, not 9 or 8, or whatever i set it to.

i am pretty sure that C1E is at defaul with this load, with my 32-bit load i had used the registry file or program method mention way back in this thread to disable C1E to rule out some instability issues.

and speaking of instability, it seems as though my 3rd core is the weakest link. it is consistently what fails in Orthos. i can run it by itself for days without any issues, but as soon as i add any other core to the test it fails.

but i can run all the other 3 cores at the same time and no problems.

would be nice to drop that multi to increase the FSB without pushing the processor any more.

[Sean-E-Boy]

Memory question

since 200/800, 266/1066, 333/1033, and 400/1600 all result in the same frequency at the end, are there any benefits of running one over the other?

[xMrBunglex]

Memory question

since 200/800, 266/1066, 333/1033, and 400/1600 all result in the same frequency at the end, are there any benefits of running one over the other?

obviously, those all represent a 1:2 ratio. i think 200, 266, 333, and 400 are the different boot straps. the lower, the quicker.