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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    so its not the ram its your bios settings
    no biggie to fix

    try this for starts

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    setting skew to anything did not effect performance what so ever for me... running ram past 1200mhz, delay skew results in det ram error, advance skew has no effect except when set to highest value, it makes the system unstable.

    my theory on this, its for 4gigs of ram and up for stability.
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    So.. If I flash my Maximus Formula bios into Rampage Formula, if I don't like it, I can back to Maximus Formula bios ? Another one question.. Which one better Maximus or Rampage ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jakku View Post
    So.. If I flash my Maximus Formula bios into Rampage Formula, if I don't like it, I can back to Maximus Formula bios ? Another one question.. Which one better Maximus or Rampage ?
    depends on what you got, your processor... apparently the mf is better.
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    Help overclocking a QX9650 to 4 Ghz+

    Hello to one and all!! For a novice overclocker (noob) this site and threads are fantastic! Just wondering if anyone could please post their settings @ 4 ghz with the QX9650?? I've got 4 X 1 GB of OCZ Flex 1150, (not my first choice but a long ugly story with the Asus 780i) Currently using the Rampage 219 bios. No issues that I have noticed.

    Thanks and great thread!!

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    I would have to disagree with you on that.
    The 8400 plays very very well on the Rampage bios
    I would recommend it to anyone who owns a 8400 and a Maximus board

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    I would have to disagree with you on that.
    The 8400 plays very very well on the Rampage bios
    I would recommend it to anyone who owns a 8400 and a Maximus board
    But I can back to MF bios ? If I'm flashed RF ?
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    yes

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    Em.. I think 4GHz stable anought for me.. I don't need RF maby later, with good reason..
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    HellasVagabond, try
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    I would have to disagree with you on that.
    The 8400 plays very very well on the Rampage bios
    I would recommend it to anyone who owns a 8400 and a Maximus board
    i thought you said you preferred mf1004?

    im probably mistaken...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeghoofd View Post
    Try the above changes mate... be carefull Dram voltage overvolts 0.1, CPU PLL too, FSB termination voltage undervolts with my board...
    Thanks!

    I left Prime95 running and it's stable 18 hours, so that's pretty good. 9.5 x 421 to get to 4Ghz.

    I'm still concerned about temps as the hotter core pair got above 65 degrees and even went as high as 70 a few times (judging from my CoreTemp log)

    Now I'm going to re-seat the Fuzion and see if it has any effect... maybe I used too much TIM.

    The other possibility is that I used the Thermalright Ultra-120 backplate so maybe the block isn't as tight as it should be against the CPU. I might have to put the Fuzion one back in there. (That wouldn't be until I get my SB and Mosfet blocks in and dismount the board)

    EDIT: Looks like it was the mounting! I think I went overboard on the TIM (that's why you shouldn't mount a CPU when it's 4AM!)

    Idle and load temps are down by about 4-5. Still a discrepancy across the cores, even though the CPU isn't that uneven (I checked it again).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenEffect View Post
    i thought you said you preferred mf1004?

    im probably mistaken...
    Initially in my first few days of testing, I did say that. I found little difference using the basic bios settings.
    But after some tweaking and learning the new bios settings I can say RAMPAGE all the way. You just need to take some time and learn how your hardware will play with the new bios

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grnfinger View Post
    Initially in my first few days of testing, I did say that. I found little difference using the basic bios settings.
    But after some tweaking and learning the new bios settings I can say RAMPAGE all the way. You just need to take some time and learn how your hardware will play with the new bios
    id have to agree that the rampage bios is a nice upgrade over maximus.
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    so does anyone have any answers about NIC teaming on the maximus??

    ive been trying to get it to work today on my maximus, with no luck so far...

    MB: Asus 'Maximus Rampage' (Rev 1.03g) (Stock Cooling Removed; Thermalright Replacements: HR-05 SLI/IFX, HR-09 U T2, HR-09 S T2)
    CPU: Intel Q6600 'G0' w/VID: 1.2625v @ 3720MHz (465x8) Fully-Lapped to 2500 Grit. vCore @ 1.3625 (Everest) w/ vDroop Mod & MX-2
    Mem: Corsair Dominator 8500 (2x1 GB) @ 5-5-5-15 DDR2-1116
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    Cool: Thermalight Ultra-120-X Fully-Lapped, to 2500 Grit w/ 1x 'Scythe Ultra Kaze 2000 RPM,' overvolted
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    Fan CTRLr: Sunbeamtech 'Rheobus Extreme' (w/Minor Superficial Mods)
    HDD: 4x500GB Internal SATA Samsung's (HD501LJ)

    Tmps @ Idle: GPU1: 52C; GPU2: 36C; NB: 39C; SB: 30C; CPU_1-4: '27C' <-- (1-4 Averaged)
    Tmps @ Load:GPU1: 76C; GPU2: __C; NB: 44C; SB: 30C; CPU_1-4: '50C' <-- (1-4 Averaged)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericab View Post
    so does anyone have any answers about NIC teaming on the maximus??

    ive been trying to get it to work today on my maximus, with no luck so far...

    its somewhere in the marvel miniport install files... i have yet to try it but im interested in its effects on a cable modem + router... that is if it has any at all.
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    here is the Marvell Control Panel Applet for VLAN and Link Aggregation:

    http://www.marvell.com/drivers/drive...?dId=150&pId=1


    installed it; created a team under the teaming tab; still unsure if its working.

    id suggest grabbin a copy of the latest yukon drivers.
    version 10.55.3.3
    (not on asus's site)

    *edit*
    here are the inf updates for version 10.55.3.3:
    http://www.marvell.com/drivers/drive...?dId=103&pId=3

    filename is: yk51x86_v10.55.3.3.zip

    *edit2*
    here are generic teaming install instructions from another forum:
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    Download the latest drivers for your NIC(s) and install them.

    You should remove the cable from your NICs, the IP addresses. Team the cards, you will probably want to set them up as SLA.

    The driver will create a virtual nic called Teaming, this is the NIC that grabs the IP but requires you to plug both NICs into your LAN.
    Last edited by ericab; 03-24-2008 at 04:59 PM.
    MB: Asus 'Maximus Rampage' (Rev 1.03g) (Stock Cooling Removed; Thermalright Replacements: HR-05 SLI/IFX, HR-09 U T2, HR-09 S T2)
    CPU: Intel Q6600 'G0' w/VID: 1.2625v @ 3720MHz (465x8) Fully-Lapped to 2500 Grit. vCore @ 1.3625 (Everest) w/ vDroop Mod & MX-2
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    Snd: Creative Labs X-Fi Elite Pro w/ Logitech Z-5500 (Optical-In Used)
    Cool: Thermalight Ultra-120-X Fully-Lapped, to 2500 Grit w/ 1x 'Scythe Ultra Kaze 2000 RPM,' overvolted
    Case: Coolermaster CM-690 w/ Major Airflow Mods; Yate Loon 'Medium' 140mm's x 4 (Top, Bottom, Side); 1 Scythe Slipstream (Front); 1 Scythe Ultra Kaze 3000 RPM (Rear); Sound-Dampening Foam
    Fan CTRLr: Sunbeamtech 'Rheobus Extreme' (w/Minor Superficial Mods)
    HDD: 4x500GB Internal SATA Samsung's (HD501LJ)

    Tmps @ Idle: GPU1: 52C; GPU2: 36C; NB: 39C; SB: 30C; CPU_1-4: '27C' <-- (1-4 Averaged)
    Tmps @ Load:GPU1: 76C; GPU2: __C; NB: 44C; SB: 30C; CPU_1-4: '50C' <-- (1-4 Averaged)

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    I just did it. I'm in!

    Time to start playing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by zlojack View Post
    I just did it. I'm in!

    Time to start playing...
    did what ? MF --> RF ?
    MB: Asus 'Maximus Rampage' (Rev 1.03g) (Stock Cooling Removed; Thermalright Replacements: HR-05 SLI/IFX, HR-09 U T2, HR-09 S T2)
    CPU: Intel Q6600 'G0' w/VID: 1.2625v @ 3720MHz (465x8) Fully-Lapped to 2500 Grit. vCore @ 1.3625 (Everest) w/ vDroop Mod & MX-2
    Mem: Corsair Dominator 8500 (2x1 GB) @ 5-5-5-15 DDR2-1116
    PS: Corsair HX620 w/Fan Mod (Yate-Loon 'Medium', w/Added Potentiometer)
    Vid: BFG GeForce 8800 GTS 512 (G92) & 8600 GT 512 (G84); BOTH Volt-Modded, Hard-Clocked, Cooler-Modded & BIOS-Tweaked
    Snd: Creative Labs X-Fi Elite Pro w/ Logitech Z-5500 (Optical-In Used)
    Cool: Thermalight Ultra-120-X Fully-Lapped, to 2500 Grit w/ 1x 'Scythe Ultra Kaze 2000 RPM,' overvolted
    Case: Coolermaster CM-690 w/ Major Airflow Mods; Yate Loon 'Medium' 140mm's x 4 (Top, Bottom, Side); 1 Scythe Slipstream (Front); 1 Scythe Ultra Kaze 3000 RPM (Rear); Sound-Dampening Foam
    Fan CTRLr: Sunbeamtech 'Rheobus Extreme' (w/Minor Superficial Mods)
    HDD: 4x500GB Internal SATA Samsung's (HD501LJ)

    Tmps @ Idle: GPU1: 52C; GPU2: 36C; NB: 39C; SB: 30C; CPU_1-4: '27C' <-- (1-4 Averaged)
    Tmps @ Load:GPU1: 76C; GPU2: __C; NB: 44C; SB: 30C; CPU_1-4: '50C' <-- (1-4 Averaged)

    My RIG: #1 , #2 , #3


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    Maximus to Rampage for the "Dummies"

    Here is the full easy steps for "The dummies" to flash your maximus to rampage:

    my mobo had 0602 BIOS originally. I flashed it to the latest beta mf1004 but it's still not fully stable at ~470FSB * 8 multi Q6600 G0. So I downgraded to mf0505 BIOS using the bios crash recovery renamed formula.rom fools method. Like KUP and a few others have suggested for the better stability with 0505 bios for quads; I don't find it to make much of an improvement for me for the past few days of testing. None of the mf bios I've tested could bench at 475FSB*8 multi Q6600 G0 with 333FSB strap and stable with newest v25.6 Prime "Blend" and even OCCT. However The CPU is much more stable up to ~3870mhz using *9 multi(less stress on the NB) and 400FSB strap tested with prime smallFFT. I hope the Rampage BIOS will give me 475FSB*8 prime/occt stable.
    I personally don't think it matters which mf bios you've before you can flash to the rampage bios.

    1. Please refer to the 1st page in this LINK and read the procedures on how to make a DOS bootable USB flashdrive.

    2. Download the latest RF BIOS as of today: RF0219 from this LINK

    3. Download v.2.36ES AFUDOS progra from this LINK

    4. Unzip both RF0219.rom file and AFU236U.EXE to the root directory of your DOS bootable ready USB flashdrive.

    5. As with all bios flashes; revert your BIOS settings to default and reboot your system with the USB flashdrive sticked in.

    6. Upon rebooting; press F8 while posting and select boot from your USB flashdrive.

    7. Win98 screen splashes and you're in DOS mode with C:\>

    8. Type the following and make sure you don't make a typo like I did from the screenshot:
    C:\>AFU236U /IRF0219.rom /pbnc /n
    *Note: NOT case sensitive.


    9. When finished...reboot system...select all settings to default in BIOS and reboot again. Do a full clear cmos procedure.

    10. Congrats and good luck OC.



    *PS: Special thanks and credits to The Stilt and to rest of other curtious members for their kindly help.
    Last edited by XtremeTiramisu; 03-24-2008 at 05:20 PM.
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    Mobo: Asus Rampage Formula (X38 Edition) Rev 1.03G (BIOS: 0803)
    CPU: C2Q Q6600 "G0" L723A765, VID 1.2625, 3720mhz, FSB 465*8, Vcore: 1.464, Idle/load temp: 31c/64c
    CPU Heatsink: Thermalright Ultra120 Xtreme lapped (2* Scythe S-Flex SFF21F S-FDB 120mm Push-Pull configuration)
    RAM: Kingston HyperX T1 2x2GB PC2-8500 (DDR2-1116)(5-5-5-15-3-52-6-3-8-3-5-4-6-4-6-14-5-1-5-5)(2.264 Vdimm)(Rated @ 2.3v default clock)
    HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB WD6401AALS-00L3B (AHCI)
    Video Card: XFX 8800GTS 320mb Xtreme, Core 612 Shader 1420 Mem 900 (Stock cooling)
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    DVD: Pioneer 212D SATA DVD-RW
    PSU: Corsair HX620W Modular
    Xtreme Air Cooled Case: Antec 900 case | 3*120mm intake | 1*120mm & 1*200mm exhuast
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    Quote Originally Posted by ericab View Post
    did what ? MF --> RF ?
    Yep!

    I was worried because it wasn't booting, but I figured it out and got into Windows.

    I put all the same settings as close as possible to the MaxFo bios, but I'm getting very slightly lower bandwidth and slightly higher latency.

    I guess I need to play with it some more and starting tweaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zlojack View Post
    Yep!

    I was worried because it wasn't booting, but I figured it out and got into Windows.

    I put all the same settings as close as possible to the MaxFo bios, but I'm getting very slightly lower bandwidth and slightly higher latency.

    I guess I need to play with it some more and starting tweaking.
    we all experienced this... you really gotta play with the bios to see what is gives you the best performance then you will love it after you figure out all the tweaks.
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    my OC exp so far tells me that Rampage formula bios also overvolts like maximus by the same amount. Nothing bad about that just you've to watch out on what's the actual volts from bios set. RF0219 bios is stable and compatible in the initial OC setting and I do not need to install or unintall any drivers or softwares. (See screenshot below)
    So basically a free upgrade Now let's hope I can bring my OC to a new high.

    Xtreme Air-Cooled OC System:
    Mobo: Asus Rampage Formula (X38 Edition) Rev 1.03G (BIOS: 0803)
    CPU: C2Q Q6600 "G0" L723A765, VID 1.2625, 3720mhz, FSB 465*8, Vcore: 1.464, Idle/load temp: 31c/64c
    CPU Heatsink: Thermalright Ultra120 Xtreme lapped (2* Scythe S-Flex SFF21F S-FDB 120mm Push-Pull configuration)
    RAM: Kingston HyperX T1 2x2GB PC2-8500 (DDR2-1116)(5-5-5-15-3-52-6-3-8-3-5-4-6-4-6-14-5-1-5-5)(2.264 Vdimm)(Rated @ 2.3v default clock)
    HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB WD6401AALS-00L3B (AHCI)
    Video Card: XFX 8800GTS 320mb Xtreme, Core 612 Shader 1420 Mem 900 (Stock cooling)
    Sound Card: Auzentech Meridian 7.1 (8788 chipset)
    DVD: Pioneer 212D SATA DVD-RW
    PSU: Corsair HX620W Modular
    Xtreme Air Cooled Case: Antec 900 case | 3*120mm intake | 1*120mm & 1*200mm exhuast
    OS: Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 Build 6001

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    Thanks XtremeTiramisu!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jodiuh View Post
    Thanks XtremeTiramisu!
    no prob and of course many thanks and credits goes to The Stilt and others.

    Please share your OC results in the "maximus rampage" thread.
    Xtreme Air-Cooled OC System:
    Mobo: Asus Rampage Formula (X38 Edition) Rev 1.03G (BIOS: 0803)
    CPU: C2Q Q6600 "G0" L723A765, VID 1.2625, 3720mhz, FSB 465*8, Vcore: 1.464, Idle/load temp: 31c/64c
    CPU Heatsink: Thermalright Ultra120 Xtreme lapped (2* Scythe S-Flex SFF21F S-FDB 120mm Push-Pull configuration)
    RAM: Kingston HyperX T1 2x2GB PC2-8500 (DDR2-1116)(5-5-5-15-3-52-6-3-8-3-5-4-6-4-6-14-5-1-5-5)(2.264 Vdimm)(Rated @ 2.3v default clock)
    HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB WD6401AALS-00L3B (AHCI)
    Video Card: XFX 8800GTS 320mb Xtreme, Core 612 Shader 1420 Mem 900 (Stock cooling)
    Sound Card: Auzentech Meridian 7.1 (8788 chipset)
    DVD: Pioneer 212D SATA DVD-RW
    PSU: Corsair HX620W Modular
    Xtreme Air Cooled Case: Antec 900 case | 3*120mm intake | 1*120mm & 1*200mm exhuast
    OS: Vista Ultimate x64 SP1 Build 6001

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