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    Ok guys, I need some advice here.

    I'm having a hell of a time getting my QX0650 to overclock beyond a certain speed.

    At 3.6 GHz 9x400 with 1.26v it's perfect and runs Prime95 all day and all night.

    But once I try to bump it up toe 4.0 it just won't do it. I bumped the vcore up to 1.44v and still no love. I think that's a pretty good bump for 400 MHz, no?

    My PLL is at 1.5 and my FSBTerm is set at 1.4 in bios (shows at .1 lower in the bios voltage monitor)

    Bios 1004 Temps are 64 64 59 60 load with ambient around 20-21. This is on water. Fuzion with an MCP655 and a PA120.2 with 4 Scythe 1200 RPM in push/pull on the rad.

    Here are my settings for 4.0GHz. Does about an hour or two in Prime95

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    Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
    OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
    CPU Ratio Control : Manual
    - Ratio CMOS Setting : 10
    FSB Frequency : 400
    FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
    PCI-E Frequency: 100
    DRAM Frequency: DDR2-961
    DRAM Command Rate : 2T
    DRAM Timing Control: Manual
    CAS# Latency : 5
    RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
    RAS# Precharge : 5
    RAS# ActivateTime : 12
    RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
    Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
    Write Recovery Time : 5
    Read to Precharge Time : 3

    Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
    Write to Read Delay (S) : 4
    Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
    Read to Read Delay (S) : 6
    Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
    Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
    Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
    DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
    Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
    Transaction Booster : Disabled (1)

    CPU Voltage : 1.4125 (1.4 in CPUZ)
    CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
    North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
    DRAM Voltage : 2.00
    FSB Termination Voltage : 1.34
    South Bridge Voltage : 1.1
    Loadline Calibration : Enabled
    CPU GTL Reference : 0.63
    North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
    DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR_REF
    DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR_REF
    DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR_REF
    SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5

    NB LED Selection : NB Volt
    SB LED Selection : SB Volt
    CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
    Voltiminder LED :

    CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
    PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

    Advanced CPU Configuration
    CPU Ratio Control : Manual
    - Ratio CMOS Setting :
    C1E Suppport : Disabled
    CPU TM Function : Disabled
    Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
    Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
    Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled


    USB Configuration
    USB Functions: Enabled
    Legacy USB Support : Disabled
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    Test 100MHz at a time a 400 MHz is great jump
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    Quote Originally Posted by gurusan View Post
    Is this really the vCore read point?
    I've read through (over the past few weeks) both Maximus Formula threads and this Rampage one. Nobody seems to know the DMM points for anything on this mobo and those that do know don't seem to want to share

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spyrus View Post
    Test 100MHz at a time a 400 MHz is great jump
    Did that last night....hmm.

    So far stable at 9.5 x 421 for 7+ hours.
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    what is the max fsb that u can do with the P5E rampaged?
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    hey evryone
    i have a qestion

    can i flash ASUS P5K-Deluxe to Rampage???


    plz toturial step by step ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by [timko] View Post
    I've read through (over the past few weeks) both Maximus Formula threads and this Rampage one. Nobody seems to know the DMM points for anything on this mobo and those that do know don't seem to want to share
    Well the vDIMM point works. Set to 2.12 in bios, getting 2.22 via readpoint

    bummer please someone tell us the vCore DMM

    Quote Originally Posted by M@ster View Post
    what is the max fsb that u can do with the P5E rampaged?
    So far I have reached 460

    Quote Originally Posted by flywin View Post
    hey evryone
    i have a qestion

    can i flash ASUS P5K-Deluxe to Rampage???


    plz toturial step by step ;D
    The P5K uses a completely different chipset (P35)...so it's not possible I'm afraid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinali View Post
    Can the Asus maximus formula handle 2 x 4gb ddr2 ram (or more generally can the X38 do this)

    See link for this ram

    http://www.pccanada.com/viewitem.asp?id=7425

    Kevin

    I know it can do 4 x 2gb no problems (with the right bios)
    I ran 4x2GB OCZ Reaper DDR2 800 no problems at default, past memtest.

    Will be posting my new build soon I just completed it and it seems like it's stable at 3.6GHz, will try pushing RAM next.


    Do you guys know why my system properties is show 2.39GHz in Vista 64, with CPUZ it's show 3600MHz like it's supposed to, I'm using 400x9.
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    well, the rampage bios has let me boot into windows at a higher mhz than ive done before on a maximus... granted its not stable in the slightest bit... but its over 100mhz faster than any other previous attempt





    now to stabilize it enough for benchies
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    Well. I did the flash and now am priming at 462x8, I dont have any comparisons as I was limited to 3.6gz 400fsb with MF0907 due to ram instability at more than 800mhz But my bandwith has gone up 2000mb/s on my write and copy bench. I am on PL 9 unfortunately
    Also tho I do have all the options and the splash screen of the rampage, Everest and cpu-z still say Maximus. Probably some newer versions out there to fix that tho.
    I hope I can get 3.8 for 24/7 with the rampage bios!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zlojack View Post
    Did that last night....hmm.

    So far stable at 9.5 x 421 for 7+ hours.
    What volts are you running in the chip?? and how are your temps??

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    Vcore is at 1.42v

    Temps are 67 67 56 62 ---> I think I need to re-seat my Fuzion block, although I was getting strange temps with my TRUE as well. Same pattern, with cores 0 and 1 much higher than 2 and 3. Ambient is about 20-21 degrees, maybe 22. The IHS is uneven.

    PLL is at minimum (1.5v) and FSBTerm is at 1.34v
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    once again...

    TO AVOID ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT EVEREST/SYTEM INFORMATION UTILITY NOT READING THE PROPER MOTHERBOARD, PLEASE DO A FRESH INSTALL OF THE OS.

    not yelling, just wanted to make it noticable

    *also*

    anybody do teaming on the nic's? if so, is there a difference in say... in game ping?
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    May i turn P5E3 into smth on X48, perhaps P5E3 Premium??

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    Quote Originally Posted by rioja View Post
    May i turn P5E3 into smth on X48, perhaps P5E3 Premium??
    probably.
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    But they have different layots. Actually I dont see full analouge of P5E3 on X48.

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    Guys transaction Booster and AI clock Twister are not working with the RIPPER series...Unless you set them on Auto...Ideas ?
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    Maximus to Rampage crossflash

    Hi,

    I think someone here did it already, but I couldn't find any specific statement about it when I was skmming through the posts.

    I am currently using a normal MF Rev. 1.03G board here.

    Has anybody successfully crossflashed the Maximus with a Rampage BIOS?

    If so, any issues? Anything special to be considered when doing that?

    Which method did you use? Turn off the PC when flashing and then load a FORMULA.ROM renamed Rampage BIOS from a memory stick?

    Anyway, infos welcome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amurtigress View Post
    Hi,

    I think someone here did it already, but I couldn't find any specific statement about it when I was skmming through the posts.

    I am currently using a normal MF Rev. 1.03G board here.

    Has anybody successfully crossflashed the Maximus with a Rampage BIOS?

    If so, any issues? Anything special to be considered when doing that?

    Which method did you use? Turn off the PC when flashing and then load a FORMULA.ROM renamed Rampage BIOS from a memory stick?

    Anyway, infos welcome!
    Check out this thread:
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=179580
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    Thanks a bunch! Going through it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zlojack View Post
    Vcore is at 1.42v

    Temps are 67 67 56 62 ---> I think I need to re-seat my Fuzion block, although I was getting strange temps with my TRUE as well. Same pattern, with cores 0 and 1 much higher than 2 and 3. Ambient is about 20-21 degrees, maybe 22. The IHS is uneven.

    PLL is at minimum (1.5v) and FSBTerm is at 1.34v
    we ran into a problem like that.. the clip that holds the cpu in the mother board was warping the cover on the cpu. it was a lapped quad and was flat to begin with. after weird temps removed the cooler and could see where the clip warped it. used a razor blade edge.. removed the clip off the board, checked it again and it was flat. just used the back plate to hold the cpu and cooler to the mother board without the clip and it fixed the problem..
    8 years in use,, Shuttle an35n ultra, xp2500 @ 2.54, 2 x 512 g.skill, 2-3-2-5 @ 3 volts, sapphire x800 @ 525x510, e-power 520, cpu/nb on water.. SYSTEM II, Asus Maximus se, bios 1302, E8500 @4.5, 2 Hd4870's cf, Corsair tx850, 4x1 Crucial Ballistix @1141, 2x Raptor 74's. raid 0. cpu/nb on water..

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    How mutch can use CPU voltage for 24/7 ? 1.35v or 1.45v ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rioja View Post
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    But they have different layots. Actually I dont see full analouge of P5E3 on X48.
    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...160849&page=52

    already been done
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    I would like to do this MOD on my Maximus Formula but just have 2 questions:
    1. Will this work for a DDR2 motherboard?
    2. What is the OCing potential with 8GB of ram (4x2gb sticks of g.skill PC8500)
    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenEffect View Post
    once again...

    TO AVOID ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT EVEREST/SYTEM INFORMATION UTILITY NOT READING THE PROPER MOTHERBOARD, PLEASE DO A FRESH INSTALL OF THE OS.

    not yelling, just wanted to make it noticable

    *also*

    anybody do teaming on the nic's? if so, is there a difference in say... in game ping?
    Actually all you need is Everest 4.20.1307 or higher, 1307 sems to work very well with this board

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