Official DFI LanParty UT X38-T2R(and LT) Discussion/Review/Overclock/Guide Thread

[C-N]

i got x48 bios tryin to flash board i replaced file in floppy n renamed it but doesnt flash just hangs there\
any other proggies to flash the board
if successfull i will post bios

Just take the X48 BIOS chip out & put it in the x38 to see if it works.

CN

[GripS]

So guys, is this a good board to get, if i want to OC my q6600 to, say, 9x450 ? I'll be using cold cold water.

This board will give you the best chance to get the most out of your processor.

[zsamz_]

Just take the X48 BIOS chip out & put it in the x38 to see if it works.

CN

i got bois file only lol
i got 3 x38 bios chips lol just in case

[JaD]

well thats how i do it n works for me i guess you be doin some more readin or follow my lead lol

I actually tried, as I stated before setting NB GTL at 67% VTT makes my system more stable while setting it at 67% of NB voltage does not (as I said, with 1.458v VTT& 1.72v vNB, if I set NB GTL to 100 i can boot into windows and run OCCT for 1-2 minutes, at 122 the OS doesn't even load).

There is an issue with woldale and this board for high fsb i believe.
I can't be stable more than 1 mn to occt with 500x6.
i saw a guy with 510 fsb with wofdale and this board but maybe he is lucky or we are unlucky or we make something wrong but what wrong then ?

I've come to this conclusion myself, must be a BIOS/board issue.
Good boards can do 500/510 FSB, others do worse. While we can see P5Bs running higher.
Too bad the only reason why I've spent 240€ on this board back in december was looking forward to run high FSB on wolfdales
And what amazing features do we get with a new bios we've been waiting for 2 months? A temperature adjustment and an high voltage warning!

[jcool]

Don't know about Wolfdales, but for 65nm Quads (or any Quad, really) this mobo kicks ass. I've been stable for 3 days of crunching now with my Q6600 at just over 4Ghz and it only needs 1,42V, no Vdroop whatsoever - and that's with GTLs still disbaled
Also the PWMs are incredibly cool, I am using the stock passive heatsink now w/o any fan blowing onto it and PWM temp is like 60C or something - any other mobo would have burned and died by now (like my two IX38 did, and they were watercooled...)

4x1GB memspeed is also very nice, can run my D9GMH at 5-5-4-12 and 1080Mhz with only 2,03V
Only problem is, I can't get the 266 strap to work, but 450 is already too high for that I guess. Also can't boot at performance level set to 7 or below, but maybe that will be possible with some (a lot?) mem tuning - using lv8 for now.

[zsamz_]

well boys i flashed my board with x48 bios
its good so far

[PhilDoc]

well boys i flashed my board with x48 bios
its good so far

Congrats, let us know if you find any differences.

[zsamz_]

Congrats, let us know if you find any differences.

i love it can do performance level 7 instead of level 8 @ 505fsb
voltages are better too
cant go over 555fsb i wanna pump 1.85v+ to nb
i need to mod my thermaltake tower 112
that suker is heavier than my true lol n all copper
pity i bought a hr-05/ifx
just everest needs an update lol i lost some voltage n temp readings

[Origin_Unknown]

Thats not good mate, have you played with the GTL's & tried a bit of clockgen voltage?

CN

nope - i'm not sure about what settings to use

i have asked before what people thought i should use for my e8500 but no one answered

[Sevenz]

Too bad the only reason why I've spent 240€ on this board back in december was looking forward to run high FSB on wolfdales

same for me

[fellix_bg]

OK chaps, I've flashed my mobo with the posted LP X48 image and so far no WW3 is coming in front the door, at least.

Anyway, except for the slightly altered boot-up screen design, no apparent differences are present, but I haven't pushed still over my current o.c. status... so much for the brand new X48, I guess.

[flexy]

you guys flashing the x38 with the x48bios??

I still have one major issue with the old X38 1/11 bios, everytime on 8x multi with my G0...bios doesnt always hold settings. Even if it is stable it sometimes just resets back ro default. Doesnt happen with 9x multi.
I think its only with certain multi and straps.

But its very annoying.

[non]

Hi all, I just got myself a Tracer PC8500 8FE5/single sided. Is it just me or the tracer/s doesnt perform well enough? anyone know what chip on it? is it still micron or else?

What really dissapoint me is I use the setting for Patriot SL at 900 CL4-4-4-12, the other auto but when i plug tracer it stuck at C1. Is there something too tight by leaving it at auto or the tracer cant handle that timing?

Edit :
btw, it's a cheap patriot PC5300. So I guess tracer supposed to be able handling that timing .

[Jor3lBR]

Hi all, I just got myself a Tracer PC8500 8FE5/single sided. Is it just me or the tracer/s doesnt perform well enough? anyone know what chip on it? is it still micron or else?

What really dissapoint me is I use the setting for Patriot SL at 900 CL4-4-4-12, the other auto but when i plug tracer it stuck at C1. Is there something too tight by leaving it at auto or the tracer cant handle that timing?

Edit :
btw, it's a cheap patriot PC5300. So I guess tracer supposed to be able handling that timing .

You got the 'new' Ballistix kit (single sided) and they are $hit for this board...

My old Ballistix kit (double sided chips) is doing 1200Mhz with 2.1v today.

I would try 5-5-5-5-15 for starters in your kit. Bump NB a little to 1.4-1.455 also helps.

[Dimek]

In case it might help someone - bios settings for rock stable 4GHz (8hrs Orthos Smal FFTs) on my E8500, 4x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC8000, bios 11/1, watercooled CPU/NB/SB/PWM/GPU.

CPU Feature
Thermal Management Control >>> Disabled 
PPM (EIST) Mode >>> Disabled 
Limit CPUID MaxVal >>> Disabled 
CIE Function >>> Disabled 
Execute Disable Bit >>> Enabled
Virtualization Technology >>> Enabled
Core Multi-Processing >>> Enabled 

DRAM Timing
Enhance Data transmitting >>> Fast 
Enhance Addressing >>> Fast 
T2 Dispatch >>> Disabled 
Clock Setting Fine Delay 
   Ch1 Clock Crossing Settting >>> More Aggresive
   Ch2 Clock Crossing Settting >>> More Aggresive
   Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting >>> More Aggresive
   other subtimings >>> auto/current
CAS Latency Time (tCL) >>> 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) >>> 5 
RAS# Precharge (tRP) >>> 4  
Precharge Delay (tRAS) >>> 9 
All Precharge to Act >>> 4
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC) >>> 30  
Performance Level >>. Auto
Read delay phase adjust >>> auto (all)
MCH ODT Latency >>> 1
Write to PRE Delay (tWR) >>> 12  
Rank Write to Read (tWTR) >>> 10  
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD) >>> 3  
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR) >>> 8  
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR) Auto
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD) Auto
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD) Auto
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP) >>> 3
ALL PRE to Refresh >>> 4

Voltage Settings
CPU VID Control >>> 1,35000 
CPU VID Special Add >>> Auto 
DRAM Voltage Control >>> 2,19 
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage >>> 1,640 
NB Core Voltage >>> 1,430
CPU VTT Voltage >>> 1,160
VCore Droop Control >>> Disabled 
Clockgen Voltage Control >>> 3,45
GTL+ Buffers Strength >>> Strong 
Host Slew Rate >>> Weak 
GTL REF Voltage Control >>> Enable
   CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt >>> 62
   CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt >>> 60
   North Bridge GTL REF Volt >>> 70
DRAM Timing 
PCIE Slot Config 1X 1X 
CPU Spread Spectrum Disabled 
PCIE Spread Spectrum Disabled 
SATA Spread Spectrum Disabled 

Exist Setup Shutdown >>> Mode 2 
Shutdown after AC loss >>> Disabled
CLOCK VC0 divider >>> Auto
CPU Clock Ratio >>> 8x 
CPU N/2 Ratio >>> Disabled
Target CPU Clock >>> 4000 MHz
CPU Clock >>> 500 MHz
Boot Up Clock >>> Auto 
DRAM Speed 333MHz/667 
Target DRAM Speed DDR2 >>> 10001  
PCIE Clock >>> 100MHz 
PCIE Slot Config >>> 1x 1x

See 8hrs Orthos Small FFTs session below


One more word about memory performance... After "transforming" Windows XP from LanParty P35 to X38 setup without reinstall, memory performance looks like this... I think that system reinstall might help (a lot)... Although I do not care for every MB/s - try to focus on Voltages optimisation


Hope it helps someone

[Russian]

My Intel Xeon X3350 is coming tomorrow, has anyone had experience with this chip and this board???

[zsamz_]

at high fsb i get noticable difference in x48 bios
first pic is x38bios second is x48 bios

[Russian]

Does anyone have a backup BIOS Chip i could buy if this one gets messed up doing the flash?

[Origin_Unknown]

In case it might help someone - bios settings for rock stable 4GHz (8hrs Orthos Smal FFTs) on my E8500, 4x1GB Crucial Ballistix PC8000, bios 11/1, watercooled CPU/NB/SB/PWM/GPU.

CPU Feature
Thermal Management Control >>> Disabled 
PPM (EIST) Mode >>> Disabled 
Limit CPUID MaxVal >>> Disabled 
CIE Function >>> Disabled 
Execute Disable Bit >>> Enabled
Virtualization Technology >>> Enabled
Core Multi-Processing >>> Enabled 

DRAM Timing
Enhance Data transmitting >>> Fast 
Enhance Addressing >>> Fast 
T2 Dispatch >>> Disabled 
Clock Setting Fine Delay 
   Ch1 Clock Crossing Settting >>> More Aggresive
   Ch2 Clock Crossing Settting >>> More Aggresive
   Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting >>> More Aggresive
   other subtimings >>> auto/current
CAS Latency Time (tCL) >>> 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD) >>> 5 
RAS# Precharge (tRP) >>> 4  
Precharge Delay (tRAS) >>> 9 
All Precharge to Act >>> 4
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC) >>> 30  
Performance Level >>. Auto
Read delay phase adjust >>> auto (all)
MCH ODT Latency >>> 1
Write to PRE Delay (tWR) >>> 12  
Rank Write to Read (tWTR) >>> 10  
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD) >>> 3  
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR) >>> 8  
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR) Auto
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD) Auto
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD) Auto
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP) >>> 3
ALL PRE to Refresh >>> 4

Voltage Settings
CPU VID Control >>> 1,35000 
CPU VID Special Add >>> Auto 
DRAM Voltage Control >>> 2,19 
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage >>> 1,640 
NB Core Voltage >>> 1,430
CPU VTT Voltage >>> 1,160
VCore Droop Control >>> Disabled 
Clockgen Voltage Control >>> 3,45
GTL+ Buffers Strength >>> Strong 
Host Slew Rate >>> Weak 
GTL REF Voltage Control >>> Enable
   CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt >>> 62
   CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt >>> 60
   North Bridge GTL REF Volt >>> 70
DRAM Timing 
PCIE Slot Config 1X 1X 
CPU Spread Spectrum Disabled 
PCIE Spread Spectrum Disabled 
SATA Spread Spectrum Disabled 

Exist Setup Shutdown >>> Mode 2 
Shutdown after AC loss >>> Disabled
CLOCK VC0 divider >>> Auto
CPU Clock Ratio >>> 8x 
CPU N/2 Ratio >>> Disabled
Target CPU Clock >>> 4000 MHz
CPU Clock >>> 500 MHz
Boot Up Clock >>> Auto 
DRAM Speed 333MHz/667 
Target DRAM Speed DDR2 >>> 10001  
PCIE Clock >>> 100MHz 
PCIE Slot Config >>> 1x 1x

See 8hrs Orthos Small FFTs session below


One more word about memory performance... After "transforming" Windows XP from LanParty P35 to X38 setup without reinstall, memory performance looks like this... I think that system reinstall might help (a lot)... Although I do not care for every MB/s - try to focus on Voltages optimisation


Hope it helps someone

I'm going to try those settings ... nice one i've been trying for a while now to get 4ghz and i just cant seem to get it working.

[zsamz_]

Hi all, I just got myself a Tracer PC8500 8FE5/single sided. Is it just me or the tracer/s doesnt perform well enough? anyone know what chip on it? is it still micron or else?

What really dissapoint me is I use the setting for Patriot SL at 900 CL4-4-4-12, the other auto but when i plug tracer it stuck at C1. Is there something too tight by leaving it at auto or the tracer cant handle that timing?

Edit :
btw, it's a cheap patriot PC5300. So I guess tracer supposed to be able handling that timing .

single sided crucials really suk compared to double sided on any board

[Origin_Unknown]

Dimek thanks for the template, ive used it but cant seem to boot into windows in normal mode but i can in safe mode but ... cpuz / everest / windows think i have a 4.7ghz cpu?

perhaps i need a re-install?

[zanzabar]

its becouse windows dosnt read the multi only the fsb, u dont need to instal for that

[Dimek]

Dimek thanks for the template, ive used it but cant seem to boot into windows in normal mode but i can in safe mode but ... cpuz / everest / windows think i have a 4.7ghz cpu?

perhaps i need a re-install?

Look at Orthos on the picture I've given above - it also shows 4750MHz... cause it calculates it using actual FSB and default multi... although my CPU-Z shows correct MHz.
Strange thing, but maybe you haven't changed multi to 8 and you try to fire it up @4,75GHz using x9,5 multi ??

BTW I also need system reinstall - I'd like to do that using official SP3 for XP.... so I'm still w8ing...

[Origin_Unknown]

cant seem to get into windows though using normal mode. ima try a re-install as i think i could do with it anyway

[Cptn Vortex]

Ok, I can not get anything more than 3.6GHZ out of this E3110..... No clue why

Essentially, I can boot up no problems at 500FSB and 7X multi, but once i go to give my CPU some volts and try to get 8 or 9X multi's, the system will not even power on or post, and I need to reset the Cmos. Such a pain in the arse. I have tried tons of combinations:

400 x 9 works fine, 3.6GHZ stock voltage
425 x 9 nothing, no boot, no post
425 x 8 works great, no problem
450 x 8 once again, no problems, stock volts.
500 x 8 Nope, nada again.
500 x 7 Works perfect, stock volts (well nb V is up there at 1.59)

I have tried anywhere from 1.3-1.45V to get 4GHZ but no luck. I would at least expect to get a POST but I can't. When I hit the power button, the lights come on for half a second then it shuts off. So I hit the power button again, same thing over and over again.


Specs are below, I am using the latest BIOS, from 1/11 08 and have heard of no one yet with this problem, went through tons of pages here....UGH
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The Vortex (Formerly the Windtunnel)

TJ09 Black W/Window
DFI X38 LT
Xeon E3110 @ 3.6 right now.
EVGA 8800GTX ACS3 edition
8GB (2x4GB Kits) G-Skill DDR2 1000 5-5-5-15 2.0V
Onboard Sound!
2x500GB Hitachi RAID 0, 500 Samsung, 500 & 250 Seagates
Sharp 32" Aquos 1080p

Watercooling: PA120.2 Push Pull Loons on RADBOX, 240 internal RAD, Apogee GT Bowed, MCW30, MCW60.