E8400/8500 degradation myth possibly busted?

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I agree with what you are saying, but a few times I've seen you post "It's stable again" (Maybe not at your original clocks), so there may be a mixed
issue with your CPU, a little degradation, and a little of what I'm experiencing.

What I, and Tranceaddict are seeing are very similar, he also has the exact
same mobo/bios version as me. But I do agree if you are "never" able to make it stable at the Initial settings then It would likely be degraded.

Like situman suggests a poll would be good at this point, however we need to clearly define what criteria must be met to clam degradation.

No, you still didn't read my posts. I never made a flat statement like "it's stable again". I never had a problem getting stable.

It's stable if I add voltage, and that's exactly what a chip needs more of if it degrades.

I never had anything similar to what you're experiencing. Just had to reiterate that.

I think you're right it's poll time. Can you add it to this thread or does it need a new one? It's going to be hard to get comprehensive data from a poll, but I guess if you frame it correctly...