Quote Originally Posted by jonny_ftm View Post
With my method, he'll sort it out in few minutes
I'll take a look by the way at WCG too, looks to be interesting
I'm pretty certain that increasing the voltage would likely fix the issue here,
but that does not tell us anything that we don't already know (i.e. increased
voltage will/should stabilize our overclock).
The state that I'm at right now is giving me very reproducible results:

1. I let the machine idle for 18-24 hours.
2. I then run prime95 10k FFT. Error in < 2-5 minutes
3. Continue restarting prime95 10k until stable at > 2 hours.

I think doing this (for days/weeks) until this "warm up theory"
does not work any longer will tell us if any degradation is occurring.
If it does that would suck since this CPU has absolutely never been
passed 1.33vcore.

Consider this scenario:
The first thing I do when I get a new CPU is:

1. Up the FSB a little 10 - 20 mhz at a time
2. run prime95
3. Continue step 1 - 2 until prime starts giving errors

then

4. Up the vcore
5. Run Prime95
6. Continue steps 4 - 5 until prime stops giving errors


At some point I'm at or around my target frequency and a comfortable
vcore, temp, and prime stable for 8 hours.

So in this scenario no one would ever notice the need to have a
"warm up period" since the initial OC procedure involves a ton of stress
testing which as a side effect completes the theoretical "warm up period".

Now at a later date, I (and others) will likly run the stress tests again (unaware of the
"warm up period") only to find the test returning errors, yikes! This is where I think
some start to label this as Degradation.

Here are the real questions:
1. Will the "warm up" procedure eventually fail to make the OC prime stable again like
it was initially? I intend to figure this out. If it does fail then Degradation is certain.

2. Is the overclock considered a success If there is a need for a "warm up" to make it
prime stable on a daily basis? I would say no (depends on what you're doing i.e.
scientific computing or just playing games, or have OCD like me ) .

3. Will just a little more vcore eliminate the needed "warm up" all together? Maybe,
and I think this is what you're saying. I will test this once I'm sure the needed "warm up"
is not a sign of degradation.

Thanks