Water cooling the Asus Maximus SE X38

[neo_rtr]

I bought a new one

I like your style! (i would do the same!)

I notice my 5V goes down to 4.85v. Should I be worried?

Mine does the same. I dont think do. I did measure it with a voltometer and on mine was 5v!

[Exaby1e]

Hi everybody!
I'm about to remove all the heatpipes from my Maximus Formula non-SE. But I don't know whats the best way to do it. I have a hairdryer and coldspray (-55C). Which method is best, heat or cold?

[neo_rtr]

Hi everybody!
I'm about to remove all the heatpipes from my Maximus Formula non-SE. But I don't know whats the best way to do it. I have a hairdryer and coldspray (-55C). Which method is best, heat or cold?

I did it with cold!!
there is a collection of ways,pics on the 2nd page if you follow my sig.

have fun! and let us know your temps as well

[Talonman]

I bought a new one

Testing some OC'ing now, after almost 2 hours of Prime95 at 3800 MHz, here are my temps:

Ambient: 24 C
Core1: 44 C (D-Tek Fuzion w/washer no nozzle)
Core2: 39 C
Core3: 42 C
Core4: 42 C
NB: 34 C (EK S-Max Acetal)
SB: 35 C (EK NB/SB ASUS 3 Acetal)

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/9679/3800ae5.jpg

I notice my 5V goes down to 4.85v. Should I be worried?

Thanks for the post buddy! ...

Does this look correct to you?
Members reported loaded NB temp's in the 'Aftermarket Block Club':
ABC Member ---- NB volts -- NB Loaded ------------------- CPU ------------- Ambient --- NB Block
Durkadurka -------- 1.52v ------ 34°C -- 2HR Prime95 --- QX9650 @ 3.8GHz ------ 24.0°C --- EK S-MAX Acetal

I think I got er right... OP Updated with fresh data...

[Exaby1e]

I did it with cold!!
there is a collection of ways,pics on the 2nd page if you follow my sig.

have fun! and let us know your temps as well

Thanks! I going to try it tomorrow with cold. The MB is all new, so I hope the heatpipe will pop off easy.

[Talonman]

We wish you well brother...

And do report back!

[Kingslayer]

Hey how did u guys get the ek supreme on this board what do you have to change??

[Durkadurka]

Thanks for the post buddy! ...

Does this look correct to you?
Members reported loaded NB temp's in the 'Aftermarket Block Club':
ABC Member ---- NB volts -- NB Loaded ------------------- CPU ------------- Ambient --- NB Block
Durkadurka -------- 1.52v ------ 34°C -- 2HR Prime95 --- QX9650 @ 3.8GHz ------ 24.0°C --- EK S-MAX Acetal

I think I got er right... OP Updated with fresh data...

Yup, looks right
Running Prime95 right now at 9.5 x 425. NB temp is stilll 34C at 1.58 vNB, with ambient at 23C.

[Talonman]

Hey how did u guys get the ek supreme on this board what do you have to change??

I think it just fits on as is...

Yup, looks right
Running Prime95 right now at 9.5 x 425. NB temp is stilll 34C at 1.58 vNB, with ambient at 23C.

Thanks for the confromation... Nice temps too, considering your ambient...

Welcome into the ABC...

[Exaby1e]

I need som help here
I've been trying to remove the heatsink from my Maximum Formula non-SE now with coldspray, but it doesn't come off? I did spray it about 10 seconds and then wiggled it, but nothing happens?

[Durkadurka]

On my first board (SE), I put it outside (-10C) for about 30 min, and it came straight off (board not used before removal).
On my second board (non-SE), I put it in the freezer for 15 min, and it came straigt off (board run on air cooling to flash to latest bios with e6600 cpu).

Try the last method, no hazzle at all.

[Exaby1e]

But isn't coldspray like the same method?
How did you do after freezing?

[Durkadurka]

Detach the NB/SB cooling heatpipe from the MoSFET cooler, and then you should be able to just lift it off.
If it doesnt come off easy, put a plastic card next to the NB chip, and then use a screwdriver to gently wiggle it off. Just dont use any force

[Exaby1e]

Detach the NB/SB cooling heatpipe from the MoSFET cooler, and then you should be able to just lift it off.
If it doesnt come off easy, put a plastic card next to the NB chip, and then use a screwdriver to gently wiggle it off. Just dont use any force

Thanks, I'll try that tomorrow.
I managed to get the SB heatsink of now, but the rest is still stuck

[neo_rtr]

Thanks, I'll try that tomorrow.
I managed to get the SB heatsink of now, but the rest is still stuck

for example

By neo_rtr, shot with DiMAGE X1 at 2008-02-20


By neo_rtr, shot with DiMAGE X1 at 2008-02-20

[perfection]

neo_rtr did you have to heat up the cooler or chill it?? or did it just lever off?

[neo_rtr]

Just an observation

NB volts............ NB Loaded............Ambient...............Difference
1.60v.................. 22......................12,7....................9, 3........... EK S-MAX Acetal (2 bloocks on loop)
1.55v.................. 26......................16,6....................9, 4.......... EK S-MAX Acetal (2 bloocks on loop)
1.70v.................. 28......................19.......................9 ............ Sixdesign sold by MIPS (5 blocks on loop)
1.46v.................. 30......................21,1.................... 8,9......... EK S-MAX Acetal
1.70v...................33.....................24. ......................9........... Sixdesign sold by MIPS (5 blocks on loop)
1.52v...................34.....................24. .....................10............EK S-MAX Acetal

So we have here about 9c warmer blocks than the ambient temperature.
What do you think of this table?

[neo_rtr]

neo_rtr did you have to heat up the cooler or chill it?? or did it just lever off?

I tried to heat it up first but it dint move. Then with comressed air i chill it and it come off with some leverage as on the previous picture

[Talonman]

Just an observation

NB volts............ NB Loaded............Ambient...............Difference
1.60v.................. 22......................12,7....................9, 3........... EK S-MAX Acetal (2 bloocks on loop)
1.55v.................. 26......................16,6....................9, 4.......... EK S-MAX Acetal (2 bloocks on loop)
1.70v.................. 28......................19.......................9 ............ Sixdesign sold by MIPS (5 blocks on loop)
1.46v.................. 30......................21,1.................... 8,9......... EK S-MAX Acetal
1.70v...................33.....................24. ......................9........... Sixdesign sold by MIPS (5 blocks on loop)
1.52v...................34.....................24. .....................10............EK S-MAX Acetal

So we have here about 9c warmer blocks than the ambient temperature.
What do you think of this table?

Not bad! I think it also does show the EK ans MIPS blocks are neck-and-neck performance wise...

[neo_rtr]

Not bad! I think it also does show the EK ans MIPS blocks are neck-and-neck performance wise...

How about to come up with a "standar" test for the freezers and SW (Everest, Orthos,Prime) that we choose to use in order to measure the test and report the temps.
Something like.
tested with everest, 30mins / 1hours,
WC: 2 blocks (CPU , NB) / 5 blocks (CPU, NB,SB, Mosfet 1, 2)
Ambient 1 C/F: Test 1
Ambient 2 C/F :Test 2
Ambient 3 C/F :Test 3
CPU: ??
Vcore: ??
NBvolt: ??

In a way it will look something like this
Tested SW: Everest (if we say that we test with everest)
Duration: 30mins / 1Hour (might better to choose 1 hour)
WC: 2 blocks (CPU , NB)
Ambient 1 24C: Test 1 NB=34C
Ambient 2 23C :Test 2 NB=33C
Ambient 3 15C :Test 3 NB=25C
CPU: Q6600 @ 3.2Ghz
Vcore: 1.35V
NBvolt: 1.40V

[Talonman]

A standard might be nice, but I have growen attached to my current listing...

I think if we did that, we would have to start from scratch again.

[neo_rtr]

A standard might be nice, but I have growen attached to my current listing...

I think if we did that, we would have to start from scratch again.

Sounds good. As your 1st post suggests : 1HR Prime95 is to be tested with.
Cheers!

[C'DaleRider]

I need som help here
I've been trying to remove the heatsink from my Maximum Formula non-SE now with coldspray, but it doesn't come off? I did spray it about 10 seconds and then wiggled it, but nothing happens?

I used the cold spray method....but sprayed much longer than 10 seconds. In fact, I tried first with a short shot of spray...something like 10 sec., and had remarkably little success.

I then sprayed the block, on top and both exposed sides (the sides w/o the heatpipe entering/leaving the block) for maybe 30 sec., or even longer. I know the entire block ended up covered in frost as was the surrounding part of the motherboard.

I didn't use the motherboard proper to lever upon, though. Instead, I put a very small piece of wood along side the block and that's what I pried upward against. The entire NB section then just popped off lickety split. Only took a second or two of easy prying.....and I was quite worried about the IHS coming off as I had run the board on aircooling for well over a month prior to doing this.

Other things I'd consider to use as the "fulcrum" block.....a Molex fan connector, a thumb drive.....anything about a 1/4" tall or so to get the screwdriver off the motherboard and give you more leverage, so you can pop it off without having to twist the screwdriver, esp. against the motherboard itself. The slight increase in height will give you a lot of leverage, making it very easy to get the HS off......and it removes any chance of damaging any traces on the motherboard.

Here's what the bottom of the HS looked like after I got it off:




I just think you didn't freeze it nearly long enough......and I wouldn't worry about the frost that happens on the board.....your board will stand cold much easier than heat....just make sure you let the frost you create dissipate before you hook it back up to electricity. There are even companies that'll cryogenically freeze your electronics....supposed to align the molecular structure in all the metal to give better performance. Heard they do a lot of car parts for racing, too. (Pistons, rings, valves, metal brake rotors, etc. All for enhanced performance.)

[neo_rtr]

Prime95 1 hour test
This test was performed with the following settings
QX6700, 3.6Ghz
CPU Voltage : 1,48125V
CPU PLL Voltage : auto
North Bridge Voltage : 1,57V (1,63V in everest)
DRAM Voltage : 2,18V (2,32V in everest)
FSB Termination Voltage : 1,54v
South Bridge Voltage : 1,075v
Loadline Calibration : enable
Ambient 18.1c NB 28c


By neo_rtr at 2008-03-05


By neo_rtr at 2008-03-05

[Talonman]

Thanks for the post!

Members reported loaded NB temp's in the 'Aftermarket Block Club':
ABC Member ---- NB volts -- NB Loaded ------------------- CPU ------------- Ambient ---- NB Block
neo rtr ------------ 1.63v ------ 28°C -- 1HR Prime95 --- QX6700 @ 3.6GHz ------ 18.1°C ---- Sixdesign sold by MIPS

Did you still want this entry too buddy?
neo rtr ------------ 1.70v ------ 28°C ------------------ QX6700 @ 3.6GHz ------ 19.0°C ---- Sixdesign sold by MIPS
It's up to you.. You can have as many as you like, I just thought this might be a replacement entry.