Official DFI LanParty UT X38-T2R(and LT) Discussion/Review/Overclock/Guide Thread

[Origin_Unknown]

anyone got some advice on settings for an e8500 and g.Skill PC8000?

[t_ski]

Just wanted to say thanks Praz for all that you do in here ... I read all the posts in this thread, though I don't have a lot to contribute ... I just keep playing around with my Q6600 on this board and seeing what it can do ... and I'd be completely lost without your dedicated input and advice ... so please keep up the good work ... (somebody pay this man!! )

AKHandyman, I'd be interested in seeing your BIOS settings. Here's a template from Praz:

CPU Feature Page
Thermal Management Control................Enabled
PPM (EIST) Mode...........................Enabled
Limit CPUID MaxVal........................Disabled
CIE Function..............................Auto
Execute Disable Bit.......................Enabled
Virtualization Technology.................Enabled
Core Multi-Processing.....................Enabled

Main BIOS Page
Exist Setup Shutdown......................Mode 2
Shutdown After AC Loss....................Disabled
O. C. Fail Retry Counter..................0
CLOCK VC0 Divider.........................Auto
CPU Clock Ratio...........................8x
CPU Clock.................................450 MHz
Boot Up Clock.............................Auto
DRAM Speed................................333/800
PCIE Clock................................100MHz
PCIE Slot Config..........................1X 1X

CPU Spread Spectrum.......................Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum......................Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum......................Disabled

Voltage Setting Page 
CPU VID Control...........................1.37500V
CPU VID Special Add.......................Auto
DRAM Voltage Control......................2.190V
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage...................1.510V
NB Core Voltage...........................1.504V
CPU VTT Voltage...........................1.327V
VCore Droop Control.......................Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control..................3.45V
GTL+ Buffers Strength.....................Strong
Host Slew Rate............................Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control...................Disabled
CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt.......................110
CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt......................110
North Bridge GTL REF Volt ................110

DRAM Timing Page
Enhance Data Transmitting.................Fast
Enhance Addressing........................Fast
T2 Dispatch...............................Auto
Clock Setting Fine Delay..................Listed Below
CAS Latency Time (tCL)....................5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD).................5
RAS# Precharge (tRP)......................4
Precharge Delay (tRAS)....................12
All Precharge to Act......................5
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC)...................26
Performance Level.........................8
Read Delay Phase Adjust...................Listed Below
MCH ODT Latency...........................2
Write to PRE Delay (tWR)..................14
Rank Write to Read (tWTR).................11
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD)...................3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR)...............8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR)..............4
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD)................5
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD)...............4
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP)................3
ALL PRE to Refresh........................5

Read Delay Phase Adjust Page
Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Enabled

Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In.................Auto
Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In.................Enabled
Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In.................Enabled

Clock Setting Fine Delay Page
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggressive
DIMM 1 Clock fine delay...................Current 67ps
DIMM 2 Clock fine delay...................Current 445pd
DIMM 1 Control fine delay.................Current 512ps
DIMM 2 Control fine delay.................Current 267ps
Ch 1 Command fine delay...................Current 779ps

Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting................More Aggressive
DIMM 3 Clock fine delay...................Current 67
DIMM 4 Clock fine delay...................Current 370
DIMM 3 Control fine delay.................Current 356
DIMM 4 Control fine delay.................Current 345
Ch 2 Command fine delay...................Current 779

Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting................More Aggressive

Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay...................Auto

Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay..................Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay...................Auto

[Boyu]

New member here. Set up a system with the DFI X38, and just wanted to add some input about 3rd party coolers. I'm using the Thermalright Mosfet 9S Type 2 cooler, it fits, for anyone thinking about using it, but if you don't use the thermal pad provided it will actually short out the components above the mosfets that it rests on. (It bridges them all.) Luckily, I don't think my board was damaged.

Can you post picture with HR 09 S on your mb?
Thx

[zsamz_]

i had gtl settings figured wrong
but it worked for me since i set cpuvtt higher than cpu core
my sttings for 500fsb
cpu 1.52v
xtraad 0
vdmm 2.27
sb 1.76
nb 1.6
cpuvtt 1.53
vdroop dissabled
cvc 3.45
buffer strong
slew weak
ennabled
gtl1 105
gtl2 105
gtl3 111

[Smokin_Joe]

Well i wasn't satisfied with my high pwn and nb temps so i reversed the tornado on my HR-03 GT to blow at the nb heatsink and was able to ziptie an old Thermaltake fan(from a Volcano6cu) over the mosfet heatsink. Dropped my load temps down at least 12C on both and my videocard temp still stays under 40C while gaming. I tried another method before this and ended up messing my nb heatsink up. It looks like i've had this mobo for a while now.

I asked this question before but didn't get an answer. What's the max voltage i should run this X3210 for daily use on air? I know the Intel specs say 1.37v and that is where i'm at now. This chip can go higher with more volts but i'd like to keep it for a while and don't want to kill it.

zsamz_, what 4 sticks are you running @1200MHz? I have D9's and i'm not sure where i should draw the line for the voltage. I got them running at 2.19(in bios) and i know alot of people have had them die with anything more than that.

[t_ski]

Most people consider 5-10% safe. Going from 1.37v, that means 1.44 to 1.5v.

However, of equal improtance is the cooling. I admit I am not as familiar with Xeon specs, but I can imagine that since it is a server-class CPU it's meant to handle a bit more than a consumer grade chip. Just make sure that whatever voltage you decide to put into it, that it stays well under the rated temps spec'ed by Intel for your CPU.

[Jor3lBR]

Yup, see here.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=178855

Hey guys I just sold my Q6600 (that could get into 9*450) looking to buy a low VID version of the Q6600 (1.20v or 1.21v max).

But now that I know those Q9450 will be out soon what do you guys think? I really don't know much about the 'overclokability' on those new Cpu's as for the Q6600 it can well hit the 70% OC mark.

Will I be able to run the Q9450 stable 8*500 in my rig to achieve 4000Mhz or at least set that goal or that's out of the question?

Also It would cost me only $85 to get the Q9450 instead of a Q6600 with a 1.20vid.

[Smokin_Joe]

Most people consider 5-10% safe. Going from 1.37v, that means 1.44 to 1.5v.

However, of equal improtance is the cooling. I admit I am not as familiar with Xeon specs, but I can imagine that since it is a server-class CPU it's meant to handle a bit more than a consumer grade chip. Just make sure that whatever voltage you decide to put into it, that it stays well under the rated temps spec'ed by Intel for your CPU.

Alright guess i can try and take this thing up a little higher. I'm definitely going to keep my load temp under 65C, Intel says max is 85C so i should be ok. Thanks!

[Jor3lBR]

zsamz_, what 4 sticks are you running @1200MHz? I have D9's and i'm not sure where i should draw the line for the voltage. I got them running at 2.19(in bios) and i know alot of people have had them die with anything more than that.

I'm pretty sure that 90% of them dying is due to lack of contact between the stock heatsink and the chips... Browse this Thread and you'll see that they come of the chips in very little time of use.

Combine that a 2.2v-2.39v = death in about few months without the heatsinks to cool them.

[Smokin_Joe]

I'm pretty sure that 90% of them dying is due to lack of contact between the stock heatsink and the chips... Browse this Thread and you'll see that they come of the chips in very little time of use.

Combine that a 2.2v-2.39v = death in about few months without the heatsinks to cool them.

Hmm so should i just take the heatspreaders off? I got an OCZ XTC cooler plus a 140mm side intake fan behind that blowing over them but i wonder if that is doing any good.

[Jor3lBR]

Hmm so should i just take the heatspreaders off? I got an OCZ XTC cooler plus a 140mm side intake fan behind that blowing over them but i wonder if that is doing any good.

If the heatspreaders come off like mine did the extra cooling will do no good. I also have extra cooling for them.

What I did was take 2 vs 1gb out of the case and use these on the other 2:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=2106

The problem with that solution is that obliviously they look ridiculous and the 4 gigas wont fit there together.

So I'm thinking about using a 5% arctic epoxi + 95% arctic silver mix on the chips and re-attach to the sinks, but the warranty would go bye bye I guess.

Another think to consider is to use 3rd party hs and preserve warranty.

[zsamz_]

Well i wasn't satisfied with my high pwn and nb temps so i reversed the tornado on my HR-03 GT to blow at the nb heatsink and was able to ziptie an old Thermaltake fan(from a Volcano6cu) over the mosfet heatsink. Dropped my load temps down at least 12C on both and my videocard temp still stays under 40C while gaming. I tried another method before this and ended up messing my nb heatsink up. It looks like i've had this mobo for a while now.

I asked this question before but didn't get an answer. What's the max voltage i should run this X3210 for daily use on air? I know the Intel specs say 1.37v and that is where i'm at now. This chip can go higher with more volts but i'd like to keep it for a while and don't want to kill it.

zsamz_, what 4 sticks are you running @1200MHz? I have D9's and i'm not sure where i should draw the line for the voltage. I got them running at 2.19(in bios) and i know alot of people have had them die with anything more than that.

4 sticks are ballistix 8500s i only need 2.1v"real" to go 1200mhz
i got 2 amd cpu fans blowin on em they never get even warm
i retired my ballistix for now "only gonna use them on high fsb
since i not gaming now i put back my mushkins in they only like cas 4 i cant even run them cas 5 over 1000mhz
i need 2.22v for this

[GrandMasterJ]

Can you post picture with HR 09 S on your mb?
Thx

Sure, I'll try! I don't think I'll get a very good angle on it.


Am I missing something? Where is the option to set command rate in the Bios? I have OCZ Flex that should be capable of 1T command rate.

[zsamz_]

I'm pretty sure that 90% of them dying is due to lack of contact between the stock heatsink and the chips... Browse this Thread and you'll see that they come of the chips in very little time of use.

Combine that a 2.2v-2.39v = death in about few months without the heatsinks to cool them.

heatsink or not you need fans to cool them
voltage dont matter its luck of the draw i got 6 dead sticks never went over 2.26v 24/7 n always stayed cool

[eva2000]

heatsink or not you need fans to cool them
voltage dont matter its luck of the draw i got 6 dead sticks never went over 2.26v 24/7 n always stayed cool

Active cooling a must http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=5508

[zsamz_]

Active cooling a must http://i4memory.com/showthread.php?t=5508

got em cooled from day 1 eva2000 they still died

[zsamz_]

i thought i'd repost these its based on dfip35 but verry helpfull
first one is CPU And Northbridge GTL Default Settings

second one is Northbridge GTL Default Settings

[emoners]

@zsamz_: but that is based on 65nm procs right?

[zsamz_]

@zsamz_: but that is based on 65nm procs right?

yes but its vttvolts so should be good for 45mm also
btw by those tables add+1-2

[Russian]

AKHandyman, I'd be interested in seeing your BIOS settings. Here's a template from Praz:

Thanks, i didnt want to go searching for it again. I'll probably read through this whole thread in order to get everything how i like it.

[sparks]

Got my board Finally.

I am trying to put this in an antec 900 case and with a 120 Extreme and the little NB and fans I am out of room.

I can't mount the TRUE facing out the back its heat pipes hit the NB so I face it up but I can't get a fan on it and the NB too.

ok I Should have gone water...DUMB but now with a $60 doorstop I need help what and how should I mount all this stuff ?

thanks for any help

ps put the video in slot 3 ?

[Ace-a-Rue]

crazyea:

i want to apologize for my conduct and swinging insults your way...you didn't deserve it and i really feel bad about it...it wasn't very christian of me to act like that...i shouldn't have taken it that personally about the way you indicate a post is not factually correct...i was wong!

PEACE to you, my friend!

[t_ski]

Got my board Finally.

I am trying to put this in an antec 900 case and with a 120 Extreme and the little NB and fans I am out of room.

I can't mount the TRUE facing out the back its heat pipes hit the NB so I face it up but I can't get a fan on it and the NB too.

ok I Should have gone water...DUMB but now with a $60 doorstop I need help what and how should I mount all this stuff ?

thanks for any help

ps put the video in slot 3 ?

Can you post a pic of your board in the case? I would think there should be room between the NB and the TRUE. My guess is either that the NB HS was installed with the fins near the top or the fan is sitting down too low on the TRUE. If the latter is the case, is there a way to slide the fan up over the base of the NB HS like on my Noctua NH-U12P?

[crazyea]

crazyea:

i want to apologize for my conduct and swinging insults your way...you didn't deserve it and i really feel bad about it...it wasn't very christian of me to act like that...i shouldn't have taken it that personally about the way you indicate a post is not factually correct...i was wong!

PEACE to you, my friend!

Thanks Cap'n. Equally sorry. I know I can he hard headed. Peace.

Let's have a beer.

[TwinsPoppa]

ps put the video in slot 3 ?

Slot PCIE3 (x16) - yup, that's where I have my video card installed.