ASUS P5B-Deluxe; Problems & Fixes

[jonny_ftm]

Bah, don't have that time...

But I recall in mid january 2008 you were asking about C1E, speedstep, and how they work... So, just I find it pretentious to flame people (suerely much more expierienced than you) about their knowledge when even basics of 3 years ago are unknown to you

I really won't debate it longer, it is useless for all people here, and the mods should censor and remove our useless comments.

as I leave the P5B wagon after a year of nice services

[chuckbam]

Bah, don't have that time...

But I recall in mid january 2008 you were asking about C1E, speedstep, and how they work... So, just I find it pretentious to flame people (suerely much more expierienced than you) about their knowledge when even basics of 3 years ago are unknown to you

I really won't debate it longer, it is useless for all people here, and the mods should censor and remove our useless comments.

as I leave the P5B wagon after a year of nice services

Yes, I do recall asking about information of C1E and SpeedStep. But, that was no a flame to anyone. I just did not see any difference between the two. C1E I thought should change the core volts. But, it does not on my Board, as much as I can tell. I would not call that a flame. Nor are there any flames by me on this forum other than the one I gave you. You are just BS.

I do have a questions from time to time. And, if I do, I ask it. I also, read extensively on subjects I am seeking information about. I learn everyday.

"I till now, never saw a report of a stable OC on a P5B deluxe over 400FSB on a quadcore except the easy to stabilize small FFT in Prime95." This is just wrong information. What are you trying to "SAW"

[jonny_ftm]

...You are just BS...

Ahh, rude, childish fellows...
Bye bye

edit: ohh, looks like my missing knowledge and skills improved with the P5K Premium, enjoy my signature

[THE JEW (RaVeN)]

Anyways, how many here have an E8*** chip in this board? I'm interested by this statement from Madshrimps:

This reminds me of the early Conroe motherboards as we had to wait a few months to have high FSB frequencies as the first chipset that was capable of running high FSB's was the 965. The latest chipset are not ready to take the 45nm chips beyond 600+ FSB and most of the boards will be stuck at 550MHz FSB or less on air cooling. The P35/X38's all have the same issues, so the only solution is a newer chipset or better support for the Wolfdale and Yorkfields. However, something strange occured when reading about this issue and talking to people who tried to bypass these problems. It seems that one of the older chipsets, the 965, have no problem at all reaching 620MHz FSB on air cooling! So in order to max out your CPU, you'll have to find a P5B or Commando. On air, however, every motherboard will do well.

I don't particularly see how this is possible, but was wondering people's luck here. Note that I must confess that I didn't read through all the 187 pages. I just skipped the last few and saw a few E8*** success stories.

[laragirl83]

Anyways, how many here have an E8*** chip in this board? I'm interested by this statement from Madshrimps:


I don't particularly see how this is possible, but was wondering people's luck here. Note that I must confess that I didn't read through all the 187 pages. I just skipped the last few and saw a few E8*** success stories.

i do have this board... check my sig...

[#su]

I flashed the bios through the OS and the verify step failed. It told me to reboot and retry it. When I rebooted the monitor turned off and now nothing. I hit the power button, fans come on, dvd drive comes on but doesn't spin up, HDD's do not spin up.

Is it killed dead?

[icywater]

I flashed the bios through the OS and the verify step failed. It told me to reboot and retry it. When I rebooted the monitor turned off and now nothing. I hit the power button, fans come on, dvd drive comes on but doesn't spin up, HDD's do not spin up.

Is it killed dead?

why did you flash bios through the OS? you asking for trouble, I always flash ultility in the bios or from the dos boot disk.

When verify is fail you should not restart, you have to reflash it.

try and recover with crashfree bios utility, read the mainboard manual it has instruction on how to do it. I don't how well it work because i haven't us it before. I wish you luck.

[laragirl83]

Since I have my ASUS board I have always used the Win based BIOS flash utility....

[#su]

why did you flash bios through the OS? you asking for trouble, I always flash ultility in the bios or from the dos boot disk.

When verify is fail you should not restart, you have to reflash it.

try and recover with crashfree bios utility, read the mainboard manual it has instruction on how to do it. I don't how well it work because i haven't us it before. I wish you luck.

yea, i've been using the OS utility for years and never had a problem. this was the first time in vista though. i had a bad feeling before i even downloaded the software.

i would think the monitor would at least kick on though even if the bios was completely dead? i tried using the CD to restore the bios but since the monitor doesn't turn on, i'm thinking something else might be wrong. i might start swapping parts when i get home.

[Ancient1]

#SU . shutdown PSU . let it rest 2-5 min and retry.

[#su]

#SU . shutdown PSU . let it rest 2-5 min and retry.

yea i tried. tried reseting CMOS. tried taking CMOS battery out and leaving it overnight. i think the only thing i haven't tried is new mem and/or cpu.

[chuckbam]

yea i tried. tried reseting CMOS. tried taking CMOS battery out and leaving it overnight. i think the only thing i haven't tried is new mem and/or cpu.

Try to boot with the CD that came with the board. There is a bios recovery utility on there.

If that does not work: (may or may not work)

"CrashFree BIOS 3
Simply restore corrupted BIOS data from USB flash disk
The ASUS CrashFree BIOS 3 allows users to restore corrupted BIOS data from a USB flash disk containing the BIOS file. This utility saves users the cost and hassle of buying a replacement BIOS chip."



http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx?mo...3&l2=11&l3=307

[jonny_ftm]

yea i tried. tried reseting CMOS. tried taking CMOS battery out and leaving it overnight. i think the only thing i haven't tried is new mem and/or cpu.

ASUS Update is more risky because of the OS envirement, more open to bugs, especially a windows OS. In all cases, what ever methos you use, like with all Flash memories, there's a risk of error every 100 flashes if I do remember well. And, after a certain number of flashes, the flash memory will slowly die.

You have some options yet to test.
- EZ Flash 2: when you power on the system, press ALT+F2, hopefully it can work even without a perfect post.
- CrashFree Bios 3 can sometimes easily launch if a floppy drive is present with the bios.

In your case, a dead screen is a bad issue. If CrashFree Bios worked, you should have a VGA signal, so I guess you're screwed.
Before RMA, try the mb on another system, because if the mb is not bad, you'll get it back + fees

[chuckbam]

You where able to RMA the board with ASUS as a CrashFree BIOS 3 error without any hassle. But if I recall correctly, the MB only has a 1 year factory warranty. You can try to do it through with an advanced replacement. They are very nice and may help you out. They will want your number on the board. The same number is also on the retail box.

[chuckbam]

#su

I agree that the Asus Windows bios flash utility is some what a risky method. EZ-Flash in the bios or AFUDO are the more safer Methods.

With the Windows method, it depends on how stable your Win installation is, the version of your utility. But, if you receive a flash error you may recover if you don't re-boot.

If you are not using a 64-bit operating system, often, you can flash with AFUDOS at the Win Run command. If that does not work, I would call the ASUS Technical Support Department.

But, don't re-boot till the bios has flashed correctly while in Windows.

Last, It is never a good idea to flash the bios with any method while the board is overclocked.

This is all after the fact. And, does not help you now.

[Buckster]

mmm I seem to get better gaming benchmarks (Crysis for example)

@ 3.38 = 375x9 mem at 1130 5-6-5-15

then @ 3.6 = 401x9 mem at 808 4-4-4-10

is that because of the strap change ? CPU benchmarks show no. 2 as about 11% quicker, and memory benchmarks don't show a huge difference between 1 @ 2 apart from latency - which is quite a bit lower on the 375x9 one.

just wondered - cheers

Mark.

[DOM.]

mmm I seem to get better gaming benchmarks (Crysis for example)

@ 3.38 = 375x9 mem at 1130 5-6-5-15

then @ 3.6 = 401x9 mem at 808 4-4-4-10

is that because of the strap change ? CPU benchmarks show no. 2 as about 11% quicker, and memory benchmarks don't show a huge difference between 1 @ 2 apart from latency - which is quite a bit lower on the 375x9 one.

just wondered - cheers

Mark.

can you up your mem at 3.6GHz ? what kind of ram you got ?

[Buckster]

Ballistix 8500 - 4x1gb

I tried 2:3 @ 3.6, ie 1200 - tried 5-6-6-18, but even at 2.25V it was no-go

don't realy want to go above 2.25V due to the reports of the RAM failing at 2.25 and above

cheers, Mark.

[DOM.]

try 8X450 3.6GHz and youll have your mem at 1125Mhz like I do at 5-5-5-15-5-30-10-10-10-11

I run mine at 2.25v which is 2.2v if you didnt know or thats what it shows in Ai suite

whats your NB volt at ?

[Buckster]

NB was at either 1.45 or 1.55V

anything above 440fsb is a brick wall for me though

don't know why- but whatever the Vcore - after anywhere from 4 mins to 20 mins I get a complete system lockup, normally takes a few reboots to clear - limit of mobo ?

I tried Vfsb=1.45, and Vmch = 1.55 - but didn't want to go any higher

Mark.

[laragirl83]

Now I am having again the same problem as before with P5B Deluxe BIOS 1226...
I set 8*500MHz for example, with proper voltages (cpu 1.352V, fsb termination 1.30V, NB 1.45V) and sometimes, like 3 out of 5, when I get to XP login screen, i type my password, hit enter... and it all slows down... after like 30 second only the background appears, no icons, no tray no nothing... tough mouse is still operating , and the keyboard as well, but still, the only thing i can do is reset....
Sometimes, it enters desktop all right, and I can run anything, prime95 small ffts, games, dvd, it doesnt matter, and it work like a charm, no errors, no freeze, nothing...
Now why is that...?
Like I said it happend to before with BIOS 1226, but guys here on XS adviced me to change back to 1219, cuz' its more stable, and better for OC...
Now same thing happen with this BIOS rev as well...
Any ideas?
Settings are the same, the ones worked well before, now doing the same old

[jonny_ftm]

Now I am having again the same problem as before with P5B Deluxe BIOS 1226...
I set 8*500MHz for example, with proper voltages (cpu 1.352V, fsb termination 1.30V, NB 1.45V) and sometimes, like 3 out of 5, when I get to XP login screen, i type my password, hit enter... and it all slows down... after like 30 second only the background appears, no icons, no tray no nothing... tough mouse is still operating , and the keyboard as well, but still, the only thing i can do is reset....
Sometimes, it enters desktop all right, and I can run anything, prime95 small ffts, games, dvd, it doesnt matter, and it work like a charm, no errors, no freeze, nothing...
Now why is that...?
Like I said it happend to before with BIOS 1226, but guys here on XS adviced me to change back to 1219, cuz' its more stable, and better for OC...
Now same thing happen with this BIOS rev as well...
Any ideas?
Settings are the same, the ones worked well before, now doing the same old

Those problems are also on stock settings?
- If not, than your OC is now unstable. Sometimes, overtime, an OC can become unstable. This is because Prime95 is not 100% guaranty and also, overtime, you can get components deteriorate by running at their limits or just the ambiant temperature increasing (guess, winter is ending and more and more people are going in trouble)

- If problems also at stock, than maybe it is a software issue too (this is not eliminate hardware issues of course). In other words, you'll have to work it out testing. I remember my XP needed a reinstall from time to time, corrupting without a reason I found (probably by installing so many applications)

[Buckster]

managed to get 400x9 stable today woot

RAM running at 4-4-4-8

[Buckster]

anyone else's mobo temp very high ?

particularly when I run my RAM at high frequencies ... like 1150 MHz CAS5 @ 2.15V

the northbridge gets very hot

about 48 idle, 54C load !

[apt403]

What would be better for the board, using the lowest ram, vFSB and NB voltages I either can or is stable, or just setting them to auto?