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    Really depressed--got wrong NB block

    Got my blocks and everything right (including the backplates) except the NB (did not deciper the forum thread referral link right). Some how got the general Asus 775 block EK-NB/SB ASUS 3 - Acetal instead of the maximus formula specific one EK-NB S-MAX Acetal (For Asus Maximus) . Was already to start when noticed that one bad part. Still working on case mods for the rad etc so it would have only been running on the workbench. Guess it would have been worse if the case was ready too and much worse if I had disabled the board before noticing the wrong part. Know how Talonman felt now with the long build delay in getting his parts.
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    Sorry to hear dogin...

    Waiting and rounding up the correct parts has got to be the worst thing about building a new system.
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    I have Asus maximus formula. Do you think, that passive cooler for SB is enough?

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    backplates

    does the EK blocks come with backplates?
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    Quote Originally Posted by neo_rtr View Post
    does the EK blocks come with backplates?
    No, they doesn't come with any backplate unfortunately.

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    i think he will be bringing some out for his blocks very soon though
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exahertz View Post
    I have a very high pitched low amplitude sound coming from inside my case that i cant locate and I never noticed until after installing the EK blocks. It’s a constant sound around 10Khz and I only notice the sound when I am using the Crysis Sandbox2 editor. Furthermore, (and only under the same circumstances) I hear junk coming through my speakers that seems to change depending on what being displayed in the 3D view. The two sounds don’t seem to correlate as one is constant and high pitched and the other changes and kind of sounds like the sound a cell phone makes when it interferes with a badly shielded amplifier. but let me inphasize that neither sound is not very loud.

    I kind of wonder if the high pitched sound is from my PSU and that sound in my speakers is because im OC'ing...?
    Just a thought ... are you using the sound card that came with the Maximus or an aftermarket sound card ?
    In either case, have you tried some form of shielding for the sound card to see if this alleviates the issue ?

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    My system has been OC'ed to 3.7GHz.
    This shot was taken right before I manually shut down Prime95, after successfully completing 1.5 hours of hard labor.
    Room temp was 63.2F.

    It also drove my CPU's temp's to a new high!
    The 1 hour OCCT test was not getting this high before successful completion. I now believe Prime95 given time, runs your temps higher than OCCT will.



    My NB hit 27C for the first time!
    System is currently stable at 3.7GHz, with a 414 FSB setting, using a 400 NB Strap.

    Them OC'ed Quads Priming can really throw some heat!
    Quad stock speed couldn't break 31C.
    Quad OC'ed to 3.7GHz, after 1.5 hours can put me real close to 50C!
    Wow!

    Updating OP...
    Talonman --------- 1.57v ------ 27°C --1.5hr Prime95 -- Q6600 GO @ 3.7GHz ------ EK S-MAX Acetal

    I wonder if I need to look at starting to walk my NB BIOS setting of 1.57v back down some. It is currently reading 1.62 in Everest.
    That seems a bit high, and might be running my NB heat up unnessisarily?
    Last edited by Talonman; 02-06-2008 at 06:05 PM.
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    MIPS by sixdesign

    it would appear that the mips-sixdegidn blocks will take some time to come around. the question is if i will go ahead and try to get them anyway or go for the EK blocks.

    2) Southbridge, It is the opinion of many that the SB is not getting that hot and with some pasive cooling it works fine. I dont mind going for it but the VGA is in the way for the tube,barbs i think. i have not yet try to fix a piece of tube at my system but i think i will. the question is if i need to at the same time WC the vga and get some space cleared out then ínstall the SB block or get some pasive cooling.

    Any ideas pls let me know. and if any one has a picture (close up) pls post it so to get some ideas on the subject.
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    those temps are good for 3.7ghz talonman push it to 4ghz....

    loading even in the 65-70c is fine
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    No, I think he had a date tonight...

    He and his EK Supreme are out for a night on the town!

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    I know I am still doing fine on temps...

    I would like to see 4.0...
    I don't know what to try next...

    Come school me!

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    Talonman, show the memory side of CPUZ too. What divider on ram and what latency. Does your ram do mem test 86 at higher speed? I think I would crank down the CPU multiplier and see how high your ram will go first? Then I would crank your ram down and see how high your CPU will go. Then you have a limit to move to????
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    I have it all listed in this thread: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=160606&page=6
    with my BIOS settings.

    And the history of what I have tried so far.
    I would be glad for any OC'ing advice you might have...
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    Talonman, I would go here to speed up your progress:
    http://www.asktheramguy.com/v3/forumdisplay.php?f=131
    You can see what others have done with your ram. You can also post an inquiry and you will get some expert assistance (including some from corsair)based on your CPU ram combination. They helped me get to 1800FSB and as soon as I am water cooled, I am expecting more as it seems the NB is the main limiting factor especially when you have 4 gigs of ram. My CPU (know its not the same as yours but) by itself (with the ram not pushed) goes to 4GHz easily.
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    Thanks for the link... Checking it out now.
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    EK Mosfet Backplates for EK ASUS 1, 3, 3a blocks are out now.

    http://ekwaterblocks.com/shop/produc...roducts_id=236

    $5.13 USD


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    You can also get these from chilled PC http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/shop...sort=2a&page=1 and these chip protectors http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/shop...sort=2a&page=3

    Although the availability is still limited by Ek's production, Have found Chilled PC to be great to work with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dogin View Post
    You can also get these from chilled PC http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/shop...sort=2a&page=1 and these chip protectors http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/shop...sort=2a&page=3

    Although the availability is still limited by Ek's production, Have found Chilled PC to be great to work with.
    Links are broken.. they just take me to an empty shopping cart.

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    iam trying to justify for my self the 140€ plus shipping for the EK blocks as a kit.
    a) will make my loop with less flow.
    b) will take the temps few C down from what they are now
    c) will probably raise my CPU temp
    d) will loose the waranty off my maximus
    e) i might destroy the modo trying to remove the stock fusion block
    dont know.....
    what is the plus side of it..
    for the glory of doing it??
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    Quote Originally Posted by neo_rtr View Post
    iam trying to justify for my self the 140€ plus shipping for the EK blocks as a kit.
    a) will make my loop with less flow.
    b) will take the temps few C down from what they are now
    c) will probably raise my CPU temp
    d) will loose the waranty off my maximus
    e) i might destroy the modo trying to remove the stock fusion block
    dont know.....
    what is the plus side of it..
    for the glory of doing it??
    Because you wanted it ? Show you have balls ?

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    because this is xtremesytems bud
    Quote Originally Posted by skinnee View Post
    No, I think he had a date tonight...

    He and his EK Supreme are out for a night on the town!

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    I'm about to embark on this road myself.

    Parts list so far:

    CPU- D-Tek Fuzion
    NB - EK-NB S-Max Plexi
    GPU - ???? (Still deciding whether to keep my 8800 GTX or go for 3870x2 (and then Crossfire it!)
    Pump - Swiftech MCP655
    Rad - Thermochill PA120.2
    Tubing - Tygon R-3606 1/2 ID 3/4 OD (How many feet do I need?)
    Res - Swiftech MCRES-MICRO
    RIG 1 (in progress):
    Core i7 920 @ 3GHz 1.17v (WIP) / EVGA X58 Classified 3X SLI / Crucial D9JNL 3x2GB @ 1430 7-7-7-20 1T 1.65v
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    Quote Originally Posted by neo_rtr View Post
    what is the plus side of it..
    for the glory of doing it??
    stock cooling makes me laugh

    i guess you might raise your cpu temps a little if their on the same loop, but then again mine dropped, so i have no idea what you could be insinuating here. the stock NB water cooling block on the maximus is very restrictive and makes less than 40% contact to the heatpipe/heatsink cooler (due to a very cheap TIM application process at the manufacturer). but think of how much cooler the entire chipset gets. Trust me, and all of the results, you will benifit from cooling the north and south bridge.

    Quote Originally Posted by Some Person I Dont Remember Their Name
    Whats the point of having bridges if theres no water?
    lol
    Last edited by Exahertz; 02-05-2008 at 11:51 PM.
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      Pump: Swiftech MCP655-B | Rad: Dual Swiftech MCR320's | Fans: 6x Yate Loon D12SH-12's (W/ Variable RPM Rheostat) @ 88CFM Max Each - 528CFM Total!!!
    • (Water Blocks and Fittings):
      CPU: D-Tek Fusion Block | GPU: Danger Den Full Coverage 8800 Block | Mobo: EK's Mosfet, NorthBridge and SouthBridge Blocks
      Res: Swiftech Micro | Tee's: 4x MartinM's High Flow Copper Tee's | Elbow's: None | Y's: None
    Flow Order: >> Rad's 1 & 2 in parallel > Res > Pump > CPU > GPU > SB > NB > Mosfet 1 > Mosfet 2 >>
    Temperatures: CPU: 57°C Max, Running Prime95 | GPU: 58.3°C Max, Running 3Dmark | NorthBridge: Untested!
    Last Updated 11/11/09

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilikon View Post
    Because you wanted it ? Show you have balls ?
    Quote Originally Posted by disruptfam View Post
    because this is xtremesytems bud
    Quote Originally Posted by Exahertz View Post
    stock cooling makes me laugh

    lol
    I agree with you all. ( guess just needed to hear it again)
    we all do it because we can and for all these little things inside us that makes us want to do one more thing, try one more product, get that extra mhz or ghz or 1C temp down
    to go where no one has gone before!!
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    Not by much, but still enouigh to officially get me into the 3.8GHz club!
    Prime doing it's thing crossing the hour mark error free. Still looking too.


    I can go higher, but have to add more voltage to the CPU, and set the Transaction Booster to Disabled, and insure the 'Relax Level' is set to 0 too.

    FYI - I did successfully Prime95 error free for 45 minutes at 3.9GHz, but it makes me set my CPU Core to 1.55v in the BIOS, and I pannicked and stopped the test. I still have no idea what is safe there... Everest reads 1.53v on the CPU core when I set the BIOS to 1.55v.

    I am not sure how much voltage I want to give my CPU 24 X 7. For now I think I will keep my 3.8GHz, and wait for my GPU...

    I did lower my NB voltage too. I didn't need that much even for my 3.8GHz. It maxed out 1C cooler, even with the CPU clocked faster.

    Updating OP!

    Also note my signature update...
    Processor: Q6600 G0 @ 3.8GHz

    It just needed to be done. You can't have any street cred on XtremeSystems running stock!
    Last edited by Talonman; 02-06-2008 at 06:06 PM.
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