3870 x2 review

[knightwolf654]

r670 runs cooler then g92...
its a single pcb. single card. people complain they want a single card solution now you got to go "o no no it has to be single gpu too"
thats stupid, for a high end card this thing is nice. since its a single card probable uses less power too.

[Scubar]

A little disappointed, it does beat the Ultra overall but if it cant win in Crysis then its not going to get my vote. Thats the 1 game that people would like to play at a decent framerate and its just not cutting it. Lets just hope the 8800GX2 ( not worthy of being called 9800 ) can do better.

I do agree that this cards design is better than the GX2 as having 1 pcb means it will be alot easier for those of us who want to watercool our gpus.

[Shintai]

r670 runs cooler then g92...
its a single pcb. single card. people complain they want a single card solution now you got to go "o no no it has to be single gpu too"
thats stupid, for a high end card this thing is nice. since its a single card probable uses less power too.

Not quite..RV670 runs cooler when idle, but use more power under load.

[Unbornchild]

Of course it's a single card, +- same perf as 2 3870's, price seems same as 2 3870's... (cheaper than the competition brand), and with two of this card you have quadfire.

[Origin_Unknown]

A little disappointed, it does beat the Ultra overall but if it cant win in Crysis then its not going to get my vote. Thats the 1 game that people would like to play at a decent framerate and its just not cutting it. Lets just hope the 8800GX2 ( not worthy of being called 9800 ) can do better.

i really, really do not understand why if people cant play crysis on 20000fps @ cinema screen with ULTRA SUPER UBER POWER AA + AF they moan? I've played it on my 8800GTS on high with slight lag on some points and hell my bro has played it on his dual xeon with an agp 6800GS (modded to ultra).

[knightwolf654]

i play it on low with no aa or af, not at native and i'm happy
plus according to a test by maximum pc, ati's crossfire produces better images.

[Scubar]

For most of us the gameplay of Crysis was lacking so we need the uber high graphics to make up for it. It looks like complete crap when its not at native res. Ive only played through the game once and i have no intention of playing it again until i can run it at my monitors native res of 1920x.1200 with atleast decent settings and framerates.

[Unbornchild]

i really, really do not understand why if people cant play crysis on 20000fps @ cinema screen with ULTRA SUPER UBER POWER AA + AF they moan? I've played it on my 8800GTS on high with slight lag on some points and hell my bro has played it on his dual xeon with an agp 6800GS (modded to ultra).

Because these "some people" look at videocards like a sports-war. They wanna see a "winner", so always moaning about the one brand against the other. Some moan always about both for, well, for moaning i suppose.
The only thing that matters is if the product is good for you, and worth your money. It cannot perform less than 1 3870 (i have now and it is fine, in all my games performs roughly 30% better than my old X1900XT, and played crysis 3 times @ High 1600x1200 ), and with 2 3870X2's we may have the currently highest games performance for 800 ~850 euro's.

[kl0012]

i really, really do not understand why if people cant play crysis on 20000fps @ cinema screen with ULTRA SUPER UBER POWER AA + AF they moan? I've played it on my 8800GTS on high with slight lag on some points and hell my bro has played it on his dual xeon with an agp 6800GS (modded to ultra).

If you don't need it for Crysis - you don't need it at all. Yes - it faster then 8800GT in UT3, but even with 8800GT you can get in UT3 about 80 fps with high settings in pretty high resolution. So what is the point of 3870 x2 ?

[quadnad]

i really, really do not understand why if people cant play crysis on 20000fps @ cinema screen with ULTRA SUPER UBER POWER AA + AF they moan? I've played it on my 8800GTS on high with slight lag on some points and hell my bro has played it on his dual xeon with an agp 6800GS (modded to ultra).

Well lets be honest, the only popular game available right now that can't be maxed on a single card setup at 16x10+ is Crysis. Every other title there shows an improvement, sure, but for those of us who are looking to finally max out Crysis it is still a disappointment that it's the only title that doesn't beat out the Ultra. Every other game available is playable at quite high resolutions with good levels of AA/AF with $200-$300 cards.

Now I know it's cheaper than the Ultra, but it's still disappointing none the less.

[eric66]

crysis is nvidia game like doom they don't even support cf it is polite way to say we are working for nvidia

[LowRun]

if R680 have it +/- the same performance like Ultra, is comparable to GTS-512because difference between Ultra and GTS-512 is small ... GTS-512 is cheaper then this R680 ...

You can choose : R680 - brutal heat, performance like Ultra (oced GTS-512), noisy cooler for 600USD! Or GTS-512 with oced the same performance, great cooler for 400USD ... what is better?

Seems like you're not any better at getting the facts right than you are at making predictions or testing CPUs.

Kickass card? Its CF on a card. Could just buy 2 HD3870..they would even be cheaper. And the heat..ouch...

Its like adding 2 G92s on a card and call it kickass. It just aint. Living with all the CF/SLI bugs, specially with multi monitors is too horrible.

Now give me a single GPU card instead. And not another R600 heatmonster.

It needs to be same or cheaper than 2 HD3870 cards. Not more...

It is already at the same price or cheaper than 2 HD3870 and fortunately most people won't rely on you to define what is kickass and what is not.

[cadaveca]

I'm only really interested in seeing this card in crossfire compared with 8800U's in TRI-SLi. 4 GPU's vs 3...

[Afterburner]

VR-Zone reckons the launch has been pushed back to the original date...

Maybe is AMD is finalizing new drivers....

[Scimitar]

I wonder if they ran Crysis 1.1 with all the hotfixes installed. I would think the Crysis #s will be going up. Smoking performance is some of those other games.

Nice 3dmark 06, looks like a fun card to benchmark with.

Edit:

Check out the performance in Call of Juarez, it's actually playable in DX10 for the first time!

[Power5]

Yeah pretty obvious that ATI will never perform that well in Crysis. Not for a while at least. I has a damn nvidia splash screen. Kinda obvious when its the only bench that the ATI doesn't win. I hate hearing the nvidia fanbois using crysis as their only safety net.

[situman]

More like finalizing the hardware and then work on the drivers.

[ZoLKoRn]

VR-Zone reckons the launch has been pushed back to the original date...

Maybe is AMD is finalizing new drivers....

Yah it go back launch on 28Jan or maybe will late to 1st week on Feb.
i just knew this news from AMD in a hours too

[Unbornchild]

More like finalizing the hardware and then work on the drivers.

The hardware was ready in early December (or even before that), has been posted several times here and there...
I'm sure it's the drivers they're still working on to get them better.

[Syn.]

Kickass card? Its CF on a card. Could just buy 2 HD3870..they would even be cheaper. And the heat..ouch...

Its like adding 2 G92s on a card and call it kickass. It just aint. Living with all the CF/SLI bugs, specially with multi monitors is too horrible.

Now give me a single GPU card instead. And not another R600 heatmonster.

It needs to be same or cheaper than 2 HD3870 cards. Not more...

I believe you can agree that the whole obvious point of X2 card is that you can have QuadXfire. Which means that AMD has a so called "enthusiast" performance card. Which really is as you say a 3870 Xfire on a single card.

So why would you then argue about the heat, which is the same as if you have a normal Xfire setup. Then to talk about the pain of bugs you get from Xfire/SLI is just pointless as people here have accepted the whole duel card concept. If you believe that things will go back to way it was with single powerful GPU then you are the one that is being delusional.

Point being X2 is a kick ass card because it lets us run QuadXfire, end of story.

You are on XtremeSystem's forum for once can you please understand that. The key word offcourse being Xtreme.

[Warboy]

The hardware was ready in early December (or even before that), has been posted several times here and there...
I'm sure it's the drivers they're still working on to get them better.

Maybe early revisions, but Not this finalized one we see now.

The First 3870x2 pic i remember seeing had no memory on the card at all.

[Forsaken1]

here in Europe costs 620 USD ... 420EUR ... maybe are spectacles better for you ...

Again spectacles for you.Do you know what msrp is?Maybe i should spell it out .Any new hot hardware sells above msrp for awhile.

[Rock&Roll]

I'm surprised it performs as well as it does....but, really I don't see this driving people to sell off their GTX and ultra cards unless they want to do quadfire.

People keep saying that this card will have the same drawbacks as normal Crossfire and SLi. Hopefully some more reviews will tell us if that's true or not.

Edit: And by the way, the Crysis bench in the OP linked review is without AA or AF. I always run AF no matter what. As well, we don't know if they used medium settings or what.

[mascaras]

Games with HD3870X2 need to suport CF (like Two HD3870 in crossfire mode)


btw:

+ 2 reviews

http://www.fpslabs.com/reviews/video...-review/page-2

http://en.expreview.com/?p=219

http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?50373



regards

[GoThr3k]

i just sit back and wait till 'official' reviews come out.
Reviews with old drivers arent worth my time