Good design, good overclock, good pipe-The MSI P35 Neo2-FR overview

[[LCN]Knowledge]

not great results on early retail wolfdales, at least not for this user, so maybe now I won't buy one in the first week until I can see what they really clock like ... reality sux!

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=172882

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Good I didn't want to wait for wolfdales, neither i wanted to be a first adopter

[WSX]

Those overclocks may not be representative of the wolfdales that arrive in europe, I think OBR is in Russia, and dinos22 lives in Australia,
they're getting very different results on retail wolfdales, within the next few weeks we will learn the true performances, ... I can wait.

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[screwtech02]

Can anyone measure the pwm mosfett cooler mounting hole spacing for me??? I'm currently looking for a waterblock to fit it.....

Anybody that doesnt have a board installed yet do this for me??? Please???

[[LCN]Knowledge]

BIOS 1.6 is having bad vdroop. I cannot downgrade to BIOS 1.1 with the Live Update utility, and booting from a floppy wont let me change to drive C.

[WSX]

Anybody that doesnt have a board installed yet do this for me??? Please???

lengthwise = 605 mm measured center to center on the mounting holes (longest edge)

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[ownage]

BIOS 1.6 is having bad vdroop. I cannot downgrade to BIOS 1.1 with the Live Update utility, and booting from a floppy wont let me change to drive C.

I believe bios 1.6 is more accurate, which results in more vdroop.

I didn't have any vdroop according to my settings and a look at realtime voltage when i used bios 1.1. But when i checked the voltage with an multimeter i DID have vdroop. When i flashed the board with bios 1.6 the voltage measurement given by the board was identical with my measurements with my multimeter.

[major_john]

You know this?...
You'll see a MSI Neo2-FR,bios 1.1 paired with a nice E8400.
It's Chinese,but you can use Google translate.

[trans am]

You know this?...
You'll see a MSI Neo2-FR,bios 1.1 paired with a nice E8400.
It's Chinese,but you can use Google translate.

very nice. I ended up sending mine back. I didn't even open the box. I need a DDR3 board so i bought the P5K3 Deluxe. Good luck with the board guys. Looks like msi is getting better.

[screwtech02]

lengthwise = 605 mm measured center to center on the mounting holes (longest edge)

depth = 20 mm measured center to center on the mounting holes (shortest edge)

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Dude, is this the distance between the pwm cooler mounting pins??? The cooler left of the socket by the backplate???

And thank's for doing this!

[WSX]

there are 2 mounting holes for the pwm cooler, I re-measured the distance between those 2 holes from center to center It's exactly 6.6 cms, I measured from the back of the board.

I also measured the northbridge cooler mounting holes, again there are 2 mounting holes, the distance between them is exactly 5 cms measured center to center, from the back of the board.

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[screwtech02]

there are 2 mounting holes for the pwm cooler, I re-measured the distance between those 2 holes from center to center It's exactly 6.6 cms, I measured from the back of the board.

I also measured the northbridge cooler mounting holes, again there are 2 mounting holes, the distance between them is exactly 5 cms measured center to center, from the back of the board.

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WOOT!!! That is just what i needed! Thank's!

[[LCN]Knowledge]

I believe bios 1.6 is more accurate, which results in more vdroop.

I didn't have any vdroop according to my settings and a look at realtime voltage when i used bios 1.1. But when i checked the voltage with an multimeter i DID have vdroop. When i flashed the board with bios 1.6 the voltage measurement given by the board was identical with my measurements with my multimeter.

Well, i have a nightmare with BIOS 1.6 and Platinum 1.6, the latter being so crappie on me that even at stock voltages/stock clocks. Orthos gives me errors after 3 seconds of running it. I tried a few voltage tweaks but i get the same Orthos erros.

I guess that's why many boards come with BIOS 1.1, it seems the best and as i see now it supports penryn too.

[clon22]

It seems the earlier bios can boot with the wolfdales too.
Thats good to know.
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/sh....php?t=1840396

When will I get mine?..
Hope to get one too...

[scooter.jay]

Keep those wolfdale numbers coming. Also i am happy bios v1.1 works i was not looking forward to changing as system is rock solid with that bios. I cant wait to get my hands on an e8400.

[WSX]

Wolfdale pre-order UK prices (ETA = 21st Jan.2008)

Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 = £204.44 inc VAT

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 = £144.51 inc VAT

Intel Core 2 Duo E8200 = £129.24 inc VAT

these UK prices seem heavily marked up to me, the E8400 has a tray price of US $183 per thousand, in the UK we will be paying $283 for an E8400.
US pre-order price for the E8400 from TankGuys is just $209. That's big difference in markup! Actually I think Overclockers.co.uk are taking the piss
I expect we'll see the E8400 drop in price once the feeding frenzy is over.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/produc...id=6&subid=793

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[[LCN]Knowledge]

I went back to BIOS 1.1, very stable again.

The main problem was that i received the wrong memory modules

I ordered these ones: OCZ2RPR8002GK supposed to be DDR2 800 at 4-4-4-12.

But i couldn't do those timing, even ramping up the voltage, then i see Everest showing them as "OCZ2RPR8001G" at 5-5-5-15... oh well

[scooter.jay]

ocuk prices are always silly thats why i am waiting for scan to get their stock as they will be better priced.

[ownage]

when i power up my system, it shuts down within 2 seconds, and then start again and boots. I only have this above 3ghz, but 3.8ghz is rockstable. Someone else having this problem too?

[[LCN]Knowledge]

when i power up my system, it shuts down within 2 seconds, and then start again and boots. I only have this above 3ghz, but 3.8ghz is rockstable. Someone else having this problem too?

Yep, the board does that always. Double boot.

[NickS]

Yep. Most Intel based boards do. It's better for FSB stability. It's the strap changing iirc.

[WSX]

It seems the earlier bios can boot with the wolfdales too.
Thats good to know.
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/sh....php?t=1840396

When will I get mine?..
Hope to get one too...

that's a fine overclock, MSI Neo2-FR + Wolfdale E8200 @4GHz with stock cooler

[Eniqmah]

Hi all,
Just got mine,
Can't figure out how to manually adjust voltages...any suggestions?

[sharpeyedman]

Hi all,
Just got mine,
Can't figure out how to manually adjust voltages...any suggestions?

What do you mean by "how to manually adjust voltages?"

have you tried going to bios options?

you should be able to do so under the Cell menu on the right hand side of the screen, Scroll down to bottom of the page and you should be able to adjust voltage values for vcore, dimm, cpu vtt and etc.

[[XC] 4X4N]

Hi all,
Just got mine,
Can't figure out how to manually adjust voltages...any suggestions?

Once you select the voltage to adjust, use the + and - keys to go up or down in voltage.

[clon22]

that's a fine overclock, MSI Neo2-FR + Wolfdale E8200 @4GHz with stock cooler

Yeah, its really not bad.
I like to get an E8400 for myself.