Quote Originally Posted by MR.Q View Post
I purchased a Q6600 myself a few weeks back and was literally blown away at how easy it is to take to 4Ghz nevermind 3Ghz. I can only assume someone at INTEL must love AMD since it looks like they've restricted they're cpu's to keep AMD in the game.
Whilst it is v.easy, this is nothing new. P4 was better at oc, even better at cold. Intel hasn't restricted anything at all. You see the best they have yet. They had TDP problems with C2D/C2Q since the very start above 3GHz or you'd have seen 3.3GHz just like they hyped in January 06 but it never came. Now they have manufacturing level problems and you're seeing delays. Now you've seen hypes of 3.2-3.4GHz since January 07 but nothing yet by Jan 08, still stuck at 65nm MHz/TDP at retail. Smoke is easy to throw around and be believed by a firm when they're in lead but not if you know reliable industry sources.

As for Phenom, we all know its problems. There's no point repeating it again and again because near enough everyone at XS has already said so. It clocks low compared to X2, even worse compared to C2 and much worse compared to Penryn. It's not dual MCM though and neither is is a dual core, but quad core with IMC within at the same fab level. 2.8GHz stable for 3 weeks with my 9500 and next I had not even 2.4GHz stable an hour after suddenly. Then I get 2.64GHz stable again but needing 0.25V higher. Strange.