ATI HD 3800 Review Thread

[STaRGaZeR]

Danger, if I can remember correctly, I was getting like 8200-8300 SM3.0 marks at 3,3Ghz with my current setup (see sig).

[DangeR!]

for xFire?

My cpu is only an E2140 @ 3.2GHz so is limiting them. Maybe the extra cache and .1GHz helped your score out more. I am going to have a go at 550x6 (3300Mhz) at some pointand see if that helps.

[mascaras]

The 2x Powercolor HD3870 arrived today (but no PCS editon )

tests tomorow


regards

[STaRGaZeR]

Yes Danger, XFire.

Burn them mascaras

[mascaras]

Yes Danger, XFire.

Burn them mascaras

i will flash the bios of both cards , prepare the SO , install all the stuff , and start testing "tomorow" (here in Portugal already 22H)


regards

[STaRGaZeR]

I know, one more hour here in Spain

All those Windows installs are PITA. Would we wonderful if you test both XP and Vista, in Vista x64 + XFire with Crysis only DX10 mode worked for me, you can try that too

[mascaras]

yes i will test XP and Vista ultimate 32bit


but i think Crossfire in crysis only work with windows XP


regards

[madcho]

vista is dude

[Unbornchild]

vista is dude

What are you trying to say? I think: nothing. like the first 2 pages of your most recent posts. This is a forum, dude, not a cell-phone.

Mascaras: awaiting your tests!
I'm very tempted to order 2 3870's now to complete my Maximus. I think i can't wait much longer for the X2 version, i find the lack of any news about their developement disencouraging. I understood that hardware-wise it's finished but they're still working on the complex drivers. But i have the eerie feeling that the first reviews won't show up before end February, early March...
Crysis is actually quite playable on my X1900XT!

[STaRGaZeR]

If you are planning to use Vista with Crossfire, I would recommend you to wait until 7.12 or 8.1 drivers come out. The perfomance in some games with CF enabled is weird. If you are going to use XP, go for it now.

Buy a 3870 now, you will see a very noticeable boost in perfomance (ex-1950XTX user here )

[Unbornchild]

X1900XT 512MB testresults (specs in sig):

14-12-2007 1:02:33 - XP
Beginning Run #1 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX9 1600x1200, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: High
================================================== ============
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 143.20s, Average FPS: 13.97
Min FPS: 10.12 at frame 1937, Max FPS: 16.80 at frame 956
Average Tri/Sec: 14810068, Tri/Frame: 1060364
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.86
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 138.78s, Average FPS: 14.41
Min FPS: 9.77 at frame 1952, Max FPS: 17.11 at frame 74
Average Tri/Sec: 15453906, Tri/Frame: 1072312
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.85
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 138.62s, Average FPS: 14.43
Min FPS: 9.77 at frame 1952, Max FPS: 17.38 at frame 61
Average Tri/Sec: 15477247, Tri/Frame: 1072759
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.85
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
================================================== ============

Beginning Run #2 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX9 1600x1200, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: Medium
================================================== ============
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 72.35s, Average FPS: 27.64
Min FPS: 21.30 at frame 1953, Max FPS: 34.85 at frame 97
Average Tri/Sec: 21411996, Tri/Frame: 774607
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.18
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 68.19s, Average FPS: 29.33
Min FPS: 21.19 at frame 1950, Max FPS: 39.89 at frame 89
Average Tri/Sec: 22964978, Tri/Frame: 783022
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.17
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 68.28s, Average FPS: 29.29
Min FPS: 20.94 at frame 1946, Max FPS: 39.94 at frame 83
Average Tri/Sec: 22947746, Tri/Frame: 783445
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.17
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
================================================== ============

Beginning Run #3 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX9 1280x1024, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: High
================================================== ============
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 104.75s, Average FPS: 19.09
Min FPS: 13.62 at frame 1977, Max FPS: 24.38 at frame 985
Average Tri/Sec: 18813166, Tri/Frame: 985356
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.93
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 102.08s, Average FPS: 19.59
Min FPS: 13.62 at frame 1977, Max FPS: 25.93 at frame 71
Average Tri/Sec: 19498472, Tri/Frame: 995161
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.92
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 101.99s, Average FPS: 19.61
Min FPS: 13.56 at frame 1954, Max FPS: 25.93 at frame 71
Average Tri/Sec: 19538126, Tri/Frame: 996346
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 0.92
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
================================================== ============

Beginning Run #4 on Map-island, Demo-benchmark_gpu
DX9 1280x1024, AA=No AA, Vsync=Disabled, 32 bit test, FullScreen
Demo Loops=3, Time Of Day= 9
Global Game Quality: Medium
================================================== ============
TimeDemo Play Started , (Total Frames: 2000, Recorded Time: 111.86s)
!TimeDemo Run 0 Finished.
Play Time: 54.86s, Average FPS: 36.46
Min FPS: 27.36 at frame 1967, Max FPS: 46.75 at frame 131
Average Tri/Sec: 25939808, Tri/Frame: 711495
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.29
!TimeDemo Run 1 Finished.
Play Time: 51.76s, Average FPS: 38.64
Min FPS: 26.61 at frame 1958, Max FPS: 53.51 at frame 111
Average Tri/Sec: 27780768, Tri/Frame: 718934
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.28
!TimeDemo Run 2 Finished.
Play Time: 51.76s, Average FPS: 38.64
Min FPS: 26.61 at frame 1958, Max FPS: 55.00 at frame 94
Average Tri/Sec: 27836372, Tri/Frame: 720340
Recorded/Played Tris ratio: 1.27
TimeDemo Play Ended, (3 Runs Performed)
================================================== ============

Completed All Tests

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14-12-2007 1:02:33 - XP

Run #1- DX9 1600x1200 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 1442
Run #2- DX9 1600x1200 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: Medium ~~ Overall Average FPS: 2931
Run #3- DX9 1280x1024 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 1960
Run #4- DX9 1280x1024 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: Medium ~~ Overall Average FPS: 3864

EDIT: and with the "maximum quality @DX9 hack" i get this:

14-12-2007 2:11:00 - XP

Run #1- DX9 1600x1200 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 939,5
Run #2- DX9 1280x1024 AA=No AA, 32 bit test, Quality: High ~~ Overall Average FPS: 1292,5

[ThatGuy16]

I have my fan on my 3870 set to 50% (fixed) in riva tuner so it brings my temps to 38c idle and 65c load. 50% is fine for 24/7, right? i don't exactly have intentions on changing coolers lol.

[mascaras]

Q6600 @ 3600mhz
Team Elite 6400 @ 400mhz 5-5-5-15
Asus P5E
Powercolor HD3870 CF DEFAULT
Windows XP




HD3870 IDLE Temp (Fan Auto)





HD3870 IDLE Temp (Fan 100&#37






Q6600@ 3600Mhz + CF HD3870 Default (777/1125)




http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4172169

[Fush]

nice, get some cod4 bench's :P

[mascaras]

yep , i will test some games , like Crysis, Cod4 , Kane & lynch , Medal airbone



regards

[Unbornchild]

Bom dia Mascaras.

A Crossfire question: when a certain game runs bad in crossfire mode, is it only a 'one click' action required to shut off one card (so without a reboot) and play the game single-carded?

I could live with a fact that certain older DX9 titles (Need For Speed Most Wanted, Dark Messiah of Might and Magic) run better on my old X1900XT, i constantly have 3 PC's in front of me anyway. But the whole idea for my new Maximus + videocard(s) yet to choose is to play all today's games, @1600x1200 in full maximum glory (DX9 / 10).

@ STaRGaZeR: yes i could order now and enjoy. BUT. I have saved €600, i can't spend 400 now knowing the double-sized cards already exist, and in 2 months time my savings may have reached 800 ~ 900 euros for 2 X2's so i could have in a way 4 3870's in my Maximus.... i only need to know if those are really up to the expectation and run flawlessly on X38... (you never know, maybe they require an AMD motherboard...) there's simply no report about them yet.

[mascaras]

yep , just 1 click in CCC to deactive CF








btw:

Crysis Benchmark

1680x1050
High settings
Crossfire Default
Crysis Hotfix

Average = 37 FPS






with Oficiial Cat 7.12 should be even better


regards

[mascaras]

Now with a litlle OC in Cards :




Q6600@3600mhz
HD3870 CF @ 840/1250mhz
Crysis Bench
1680x1050
High Settings

Average = 39.5 Fps








almost Average of 40 fps

NOt BAD !!!



regards

[oanvoanc]

20000 with 2x 3850 everything under water

here some 3dmark scores i compared:
dual vs. quadcore (also overclocked vs. not overclocked)- each compared with single vs crossfire 3850

http://oanvoanc.wordpress.com/2007/1...e-kurz-review/

[mascaras]

Q6600
Asus P5E
HD3870 CF Default
Cat 7.10 + Crysis Hotfix
1680x1050
High settings



















Crossfire OC 840/1250
1680x1050
High Settings

[Unbornchild]

Now with a litlle OC in Cards :

Q6600@3600mhz
HD3870 CF @ 840/1250mhz
Crysis Bench
1680x1050
High Settings

Average = 39.5 Fps

For comparison:

E6600@3244mhz
X1900XT/512MB single card @ 682/756mhz
Catalyst 7.11
Asus P5WDH
2GB PC2-8500
Crysis Bench
1680x1050

High Settings
Average = 14.78 Fps

Medium Settings
Average = 29.48 Fps

[malik22]

mascaras do yu have 8800gt in sli for comparison?

[mascaras]

mascaras do yu have 8800gt in sli for comparison?

NO




COD4 Single player
Crossfire Default
1680x1050
High settings
Anti-Alising = 4x
AF ON

[STaRGaZeR]

mascaras, CF is not working in Crysis

With a single card I have the exact same fps at the exact same point. With CF enabled, in Vista DX10 Crysis they are much higher.

[mascaras]

mascaras, CF is not working in Crysis

With a single card I have the exact same fps at the exact same point. With CF enabled, in Vista DX10 Crysis they are much higher.

in windows xp its working

with single card and with 8800GT @ 1680x1050 @ High Settings i have around 29/30 fps in that place (sunset) , with CF i have 47 fps

you have 47 fps @ 1680x1050 @High settings in tha place ( sunset) with single card ???

and crysis bench @ 1680x1050 @High Settings with single card you have average = 40 fps???

....................

i think thats too much for single card


regards