New EK CPU block!!

[Jupiler]

Well I also tried the vertical mount, it results in 1, maybe 2 degrees c higher temps... nothing dramatical but for me I'm going back to the horizontal mount

Now I'm curious what temps Jupiler will get with his block... hope he lets uw know ASAP

Noticed no difference in temps between horizontal and vertical mounting.
Made an 1.5 hour run of Prime on my 6750 @ 3700, 1.40V.

On both mountings, temps were fluctuating around 47-48° on both cores.
Maybe the way of mounting won't affect temps that much on a dual core.

[awhir]

Noticed no difference in temps between horizontal and vertical mounting.
Made an 1.5 hour run of Prime on my 6750 @ 3700, 1.40V.

On both mountings, temps were fluctuating around 47-48° on both cores.
Maybe the way of mounting won't affect temps that much on a dual core.

it wont on dual core only on quad core .

[Jupiler]

Well,
it was worth a try anyway.

[MrToad]

Thanks for linking the results of that test ^^

Pity that everyone but RLM seems to favour dual cores over quad cores to test it.

TBH I'm more interested in quad performance. Even the original Apogee managed rather well with my X6800.

However, I'm finding the QX6850 an altogether completely different beast.

[Jupiler]

It's not about favouring a dual core vs quad core to test it.
Not everybody has a quad or 2 rigs with different cpu's.
If the Supreme would have fitted my board, I certainly would have tested it on my quad.
But ATM, I don't have the time to disassemble 2 rigs to test the block on a quad.

[Martinm210]

Sorry for that - i have wrong info.

Now is all ok and here are all results: LINK

Thanks for posting

[jammin]

i hope the supreme fits on the foxconn mars!

[MorGo7h]

Well,
it was worth a try anyway.

Sure it was! :o

[Parad0x]

EK Supreme CPU Water Block @ Overclock3D.net

[Martinm210]

EK Supreme CPU Water Block @ Overclock3D.net

Thanks!

Although I'm not sure I understand the pressure drop data or testing, it was still interesting.

It looked to me like they only had one guage and were simply measuring a single point of pressure and flow rate. The pressure vs. flow rate would still represent a relative bit of information where higher the pressure the more restrictive, that's good...but the pressure drop piece didn't make sense. For pressure drop you need to measure pressure on both sides of the block simultaneously (two guages) or use a manometer with a + and - input. Regardless I was still happy to see some flow rate type testing included.

[Jedda]

I loved the bit where he defended the fit probs of eddy's custom water block by pointing out that many users of custom cooling used custom cooling.
Gawd!!

"Although, in defense of EK with regards to the compatibility problems, many overclocking enthusiasts tend to do away with manufacturer solutions, and instead opt for their own custom cooling."

[jayhall0315]

Thanks!

Although I'm not sure I understand the pressure drop data or testing, it was still interesting.

It looked to me like they only had one guage and were simply measuring a single point of pressure and flow rate. The pressure vs. flow rate would still represent a relative bit of information where higher the pressure the more restrictive, that's good...but the pressure drop piece didn't make sense. For pressure drop you need to measure pressure on both sides of the block simultaneously (two guages) or use a manometer with a + and - input. Regardless I was still happy to see some flow rate type testing included.

I agree with Martinm, need to see both guages and the delta T info frankly looks wrong. The Fuzion is already approaching the near maximum of what is possible with water cooling at ambient temperatures (for the 50 ~ 150 watt output range at 1.5 ~ 2.5 gpm flow rates), so I am very suspicious from a thermodynamics point of view with regards to the delta T difference seen in the Overclock article.

Jay

[karl_eller]

I wonder when the guy over at OC3D is going to ditch that Camry heatercore and pick up a real rad, ideally an MCR320 or a PA 120.3. It doesn't look like it'd have enough heat dissipation to give the most accurate results.

Eller

[Jedda]

UFB,

You have to be kidding me. Just got my new shinny EK Supreme just to find out I can't mount it on my CPU with the correct orientation becuase it won't fit between the NB and Mosfet cooler on my Maximus Formula.

With all the stuff I've done with WC, that has to be the biggest nuckle headed blunder I've ever seen. Right up there with plated AL tops.

EDDIE!!!!!!!!!! When can I expect the correct mounting plate (and don't even tell me I'll have to pay for it) so I can turn this 70.00 USD paperweight I'm looking at into something I can use? YOU HAVE PM!

andyc

Eddie has been extremely straight up in my dealings with him. Its a real pity this blunder occurred but he'll get a refined plate out as fast as he can, I believe.

[jarogniew]

Thanks!

Although I'm not sure I understand the pressure drop data or testing, it was still interesting.

It looked to me like they only had one guage and were simply measuring a single point of pressure and flow rate. The pressure vs. flow rate would still represent a relative bit of information where higher the pressure the more restrictive, that's good...but the pressure drop piece didn't make sense. For pressure drop you need to measure pressure on both sides of the block simultaneously (two guages) or use a manometer with a + and - input. Regardless I was still happy to see some flow rate type testing included.

Im also interested how they measure pressure drop with only one guage. I think they measure pressure vs flow of setup with pump, then measure same thing in setup with waterblocks and subtract it from 1st data (only pump numbers)... i hope u get it

I have 2 guages and flowmeter, so if u ppl want i can measure pressure drop vs flow today/tomorrow and post numbers here.

[headala]

Eddie has been extremely straight up in my dealings with him. Its a real pity this blunder occurred but he'll get a refined plate out as fast as he can, I believe.

As someone completely objective (i don't own EK anything, and don't plan on buying anything for a while) it seems to me that Eddie has been very good about balancing having things out quickly vs. fixing things when they go wrong. Example: would you rather wait another 2 months to get a Supreme if it meant that Eddie went around to his friends' houses and checked their motherboards' fit? I think most people (especially at XS) would rather have the block in their hands and have to dremel off a corner of the mounting plate to fit their mobo than wait. And, he's fixing it, so it'll be fine in the end.

Another example is that NB block for the maximus; he got it out ASAP, and it doesn't quite fit right, so he's fixing it.

[Martinm210]

Im also interested how they measure pressure drop with only one guage. I think they measure pressure vs flow of setup with pump, then measure same thing in setup with waterblocks and subtract it from 1st data (only pump numbers)... i hope u get it

I have 2 guages and flowmeter, so if u ppl want i can measure pressure drop vs flow today/tomorrow and post numbers here.

That would be cool. From their test it would appear it's perhaps less restrictive than a storm, which would make it maybe about as restrictive as a Fuzion with a quad nozzle or so.

[ShoNuff]

cut...

I'm wondering what the heck he used as his reference, it doesn't clear a ASUS Striker Extreme either in the correct orientation with the stock Mosfet cooler. Off my about 2 mm.

That's one of the most popular boards there is.

andyc

I really hope this block fits on the Striker. How do you know its too big?

That would suck "big time" if doesn't.

[zbogorgon]

UFB,

You have to be kidding me. Just got my new shinny EK Supreme just to find out I can't mount it on my CPU with the correct orientation becuase it won't fit between the NB and Mosfet cooler on my Maximus Formula.

With all the stuff I've done with WC, that has to be the biggest nuckle headed blunder I've ever seen. Right up there with plated AL tops.

EDDIE!!!!!!!!!! When can I expect the correct mounting plate (and don't even tell me I'll have to pay for it) so I can turn this 70.00 USD paperweight I'm looking at into something I can use? YOU HAVE PM!

andyc

Some insight on this matter. At the time when Supreme was introduced, there was not a single X38 board in our contry Slovenia. And I don't talk about that none of our friedns bought it, none of the distributors, resellers, shop had it, or even seen it and I'll bet you that if I called to every shop, for 95% of them this would be the first time to hear about X38.

Same thing about Blitz series. Two months ago I called the largest distributor for Asus and he asked me if I am sure that Blitz Extreme is Asus product and then what is it's official name.

At this moment, I know of only one X38 board beeing sold until now, I am almost 100% sure that there is no Blitz board in our country, that none of distributors (including resellers) at this moment has any nforce 680 board on stock and I would be shocked if more than 5 nf680 boards like Striker Extreme or Abit IN9 were sold. Buying a DFI board is impossible.

We mostly have Abit IP35 and Asus P5K boards, and block fits on all of them. I also had Abit IN9 and there was no problem.

[Mekrel]

Andy, can't you mount it horizontal?

It's better that way it seems, which makes sense as the mid plate jet lines follow the lengths of the dies.

[Manicdan]

take a pair of metal cutting scissors and clip off a 1/4 inch of the mosfet fins that are in your way and move on.

this is a very new product and it takes time to test EVERY board out there. and for them to make a universal mounting plate with screw holes so close to the outside edge, they need to make sure it has enough material around the hole so it dosn't loose its structural strength

[ShoNuff]

@mcoffey Thanks for the pics! I have the EK mosfet coolers on my Striker and don't think the block will fit. You gotta wonder how that happen.

Hopefully we will see a new mounting plate soon...real soon!

[zbogorgon]

Understood, but it doesn't fit a ASUS Striker Extreme properly and I'm sure there's quite a few of those around in Europe.

And I'm talking about a ASUS Maximus on a X38 chipset, not a Blitz on a P35 chipset.

As far as the Asus Strker Extreme 680i, one of the most popular boards out there now, 1000's sold. The Maximus X38 units being sold, one of the hotest new boards out there right now and selling right and left.

So I'm not sure where your getting your sales info from. We're not talking about strange one off boards here (read Maximus Formula SE and Maximus Formula have the same problem along with the Striker). We're talking about the mainstream board markets where EK makes it's sales.

So someone didn't do their homework, made a bad choice in reference boards for the market they serve, along with the piss poor design and now the loyal consumer is going to suffer for it.

So do me a favour, learn from it, don't ever ever let it happen again and make things right without costing me any more money.

If those three things happen going forward, you'll have a loyal customer who'll buy another 25 EK WC products and recommending them in the future. It's on EK now, I've done what I was supposed to do.

andyc

Mainstream where, if I wanted to buy ASUS Maximus in Slovenia yesterday, I am quite sure that I wouldn't get it this year.

And yes, I agree, those compatiblity problems should not have happend and it will be fixed ASAP. When block was designed we wanted it to be the best performer, most universal as possible, even Xeon socket compatible and as low cost to buy as possible.

And the way those mothebroad heatsink design go, there will always be a problem with every cooling solution there is.

[Mekrel]

Andy,

You're right that EK said it would be best that way, but a few users have found other wise. They're not exact tests like nikhsubs1, but I guess it's a guide.

I believe it's best Horizontal because the surface area of the jets are more direct over the dies than Vertically. First time using Paint.Net so forgive me for the poor quality, but how I depict things:

[welshtom]

DTEK didnt make two different mounting plates for the fun of it, I guess this is where experience kicks in.

Chalk it down to inexperience and get it fixed