yorkfield late too?

[Shintai]

Well, Xeons wouldn't necessarily see it, being a different package/socket. If true, it has something to do with FSB stability, and Harpertown and Yorkfield could conceivably have differences in the way their dual-dies are interfaced to the FSB.

No, they are 100% identical...

[G H Z]

honestly i can't believe this at all.

Check page 17 of this Intel document, all chips contain bugs or 'errata' as they describe it. The disclaimer I find interesting in alot of Intel documentation is this;

"Intel products are not intended for use in medical, life saving, life sustaining applications"



Does this mean we should stop using Intel? No of course not, AMD is subject to the same probelms in chip design and manufacturing, all cpu's have bugs. Fortunately both companies are active in tracing and correcting these conditions, thats one of the benefits of newer revision parts. It does sound like this may be a more serious incarnation affecting 45nm if they are holding back launch, and Xeons may benefit from more robust memory subsystems using registered/buffered parts, time will tell.

[Shintai]

I love that quote Its basicly just an anti lawsuit thing as usual if anything should happen. Just imagine the short EULA we could have if..well you know

But I bet its a non serious bug. Just blown out of proportion.

[terrace215]

No, they are 100% identical...

You realize one is Socket 771, the other Socket 775, right?

99.9% similar, maybe. 100%? I don't think so.

[generics_user]

for QX9650

Find from matbe:
http://www.clicknmouse.fr/intelcore2...096.html?ref=1
said as in stock
But most said they will arrive mid-december...

But if you prefer you could buy a dell
http://configure2.euro.dell.com/dell...bc=precn_t7400

Try now to find a phenom 9600

where you want even in a system

geizhalsnone in stock...
geizhals 9600 in stock @ everywhere.

stop telling BS and trash everything non-intel, they paperlaunched QX9650 just like amd did with the 9700, and this is a FACT


i doubt that intel has a problem with their FSB, they simply want to milk 65nm as long as possible just as amd did before C2D

[happychappy]

You realize one is Socket 771, the other Socket 775, right?

99.9% similar, maybe. 100%? I don't think so.

Hey, whats 4 pads between friends?

[cky2k6]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=168053 could it be related to this thread with weird load distribution? probably not, but its just interesting as to what the problem is.

[LowRun]

for QX9650

Find from matbe:
http://www.clicknmouse.fr/intelcore2...096.html?ref=1
said as in stock
But most said they will arrive mid-december...

But if you prefer you could buy a dell
http://configure2.euro.dell.com/dell...bc=precn_t7400

Try now to find a phenom 9600

where you want even in a system

Easyly done for the 9500 here.

This one is bricks and mortar shops on top:

http://www.rue-montgallet.com/prix/7...2200-Mhz-sAM2/

This one is online shops on top:

http://www.rue-hardware.com/prix/ach...2200-Mhz-sAM2/

Edit:
Finding 9600 is pretty easy too, online shops, 4 says in stock:

http://www.clubic.com/shopping-23868...enom-9600.html

[Shintai]

You realize one is Socket 771, the other Socket 775, right?

99.9% similar, maybe. 100%? I don't think so.

Its the same bus, same signals, same voltages.

And you could compare 771 with 775 and you might just find 4 extra reserved pins. I doubt a different pin layout would fix or brake this.

[nemrod]

hallo

Anyway, i'd prefer those kind of "buggy" QX9650 than buggy 9600...

[nemrod]

stop telling BS and trash everything non-intel, they paperlaunched QX9650 just like amd did with the 9700, and this is a FACT

keep cool guy, I'm the OP of this topic that some think BS and trash intel...

Just, take into account the dailytech news...
http://www.dailytech.com/Leaked+AMD+...rticle9892.htm

Allocation for the Phenom 9600 running at 2.3GHz has been pushed back to a Q1 2008 date.

But you're right apparently they are sold...

[Pacha]

btw, hardware.fr has contacted Intel to ask them about the bug and they confirmed it, so yes there is a bug

[adamsleath]

theyre gonna sell more wolfdales anyway...regardless of when yf comes out.

[cky2k6]

btw, hardware.fr has contacted Intel to ask them about the bug and they confirmed it, so yes there is a bug

what severity though? vast majority of cpu bugs are virtual non-factors, as in its like getting struck by bolt of lightning...

[The_Beast]

Don't worry; this is just a little bump for Intel

[nemrod]

what severity though? vast majority of cpu bugs are virtual non-factors, as in its like getting struck by bolt of lightning...

On pcinpact the second source, they said:
That this is only precise case in lab, but not find elsewhere.
But they said too that the yorkfield will be respin and delayed.

So don't seem a too serious bug but a nice reason to delay...

[safan80]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115035

$50 price cut boo!!!!

[generics_user]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115035

we all know that they're in stock in the US, however there is a difference between worldwide availability and limited stock in certain regions

btw: PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SIG (the gif sucks tbh...), well the avatar too, please change them

[safan80]

btw: PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SIG (the gif sucks tbh...), well the avatar too, please change them

use adblock and you won't have to see it.

[mstp2009]

we all know that they're in stock in the US, however there is a difference between worldwide availability and limited stock in certain regions

btw: PLEASE CHANGE YOUR SIG (the gif sucks tbh...), well the avatar too, please change them

They are both more creative than what you have.

To each his own, I say.

[Ridstar]

>.<' http://www.behardware.com/news/9264/...confirmed.html

[JumpingJack]

Wow, just bugs everywhere... this looks like it is just a translation of the french report:
http://www.behardware.com/news/9264/...confirmed.html

I wonder if the Intel dude is on vacation too ....

EDIT: (oops, did not notice yours above, just jumped to quick reply)

[JumpingJack]

keep cool guy, I'm the OP of this topic that some think BS and trash intel...
Just, take into account the dailytech news...
http://www.dailytech.com/Leaked+AMD+...rticle9892.htm

But you're right apparently they are sold...

Can't win either way.... can ya'

[JumpingJack]

Don't worry; this is just a little bump for Intel

Bump?? I think an execution miss is a miss regardless. AMD has not handled theirs well, we shall see how Intel will handles it.... historically, one can lean towards not well either...

[asp6000]

To be honest, I don't care if you like them or not.

Never saw that one coming...