8800gt Disappointed

[Ethelred]

So I bought an 8800gt on Monday, hadn't planned on purchasing it, however, Fry's Electronics had it in stock.

Cut to two days later, and I'm plague with BSODs and memory dumps...Returned it today, they only one they had in stock had been returned for the same issue. And now I'm unsure on what to do, wait for the GTS or just get an 3870.

Anyone else have the same problems as of yet?

[revogamer]

nop, it mustve been a faulty product, they are great cards, if you dont get a faulty one. there better than the 3870 in single card setups, you could wait for the GTS or get a nonfaulty GT

[Soulburner]

For one, disable memory dumps.

Two...sounds like a faulty card. If it does the same thing in another system you can confirm it.

[Spoudazo]

Going great here, even beat my 8800gtx in 3dmark06.

[zanzabar]

its xfx's shotty workmanship on the 8800gt combined with frys bad treatment in most stores and u have an instantly useless card

[dinos22]

got a couple at home

both going great

[Brian MP5T]

So I bought an 8800gt on Monday, hadn't planned on purchasing it, however, Fry's Electronics had it in stock.

Cut to two days later, and I'm plague with BSODs and memory dumps...Returned it today, they only one they had in stock had been returned for the same issue. And now I'm unsure on what to do, wait for the GTS or just get an 3870.

Anyone else have the same problems as of yet?

It's a common problem with the first, batch..

Simply get a new one and it will be fine..

[dinos22]

that's what some were insinuating but there was just no critical mass that the websites were referring to (re first batch issues....i reckon it's just big BS)

i'm sure we would have had a lot of these kinds of threads from the start

[Brian MP5T]

that's what some were insinuating but there was just no critical mass that the websites were referring to (re first batch issues....i reckon it's just big BS)

i'm sure we would have had a lot of these kinds of threads from the start

Yeah, Ok, It's BS.. I have 4 of them in two computers... I spent 1 Week trying to get them to work.. Returned them all for batch two and everything is slick..
I suppose I'm just talking out of my ass..

Perhaps you havent used the search function or Googled "8800GT Problem"

[Ethelred]

its xfx's shotty workmanship on the 8800gt combined with frys bad treatment in most stores and u have an instantly useless card

It wasn't bad treatment on behalf of Fry's, I know they have some issues, however this was factory sealed as well as in pristine shape.

And it was a great card, did 12.2k in 3dmark06...just disappointing that there have been so many problems across the board with them in regards to the memory.

I'll definitely be getting another one. Shortly atleast.

[Spoudazo]

There haven't been "problems across the board" with them. If you want to see memory problems, go back to 2006 and the 7900gtx.

[Ethelred]

There haven't been "problems across the board" with them. If you want to see memory problems, go back to 2006 and the 7900gtx.

Across the board geographically speaking, not product-wise.

[Rollo]

Yeah, Ok, It's BS.. I have 4 of them in two computers... I spent 1 Week trying to get them to work.. Returned them all for batch two and everything is slick..
I suppose I'm just talking out of my ass..

Perhaps you havent used the search function or Googled "8800GT Problem"

I didn't have to use Google. I talked to people at NVIDIA and BFG directly, they said "Nothing out of the ordinary for returns".

Then Kyle at HardOCP talked to several OEMs and found out the same, published an article about this rumor.

Go figure.

[muzz]

O ya Rollo, like Nv is gonna tell ya they are having issues...

The seasons don't even change around you Nvidia Focus group folks.....

"Gee, what's the weather gonna be like here in Juno tommorrow... What, sunny and 85 degrees. fabulous, just like today"!!

[Spoudazo]

Well, the 7900gtx had issues as well as the 7900gt, but the 8800gt is fine.

[dinos22]

Yeah, Ok, It's BS.. I have 4 of them in two computers... I spent 1 Week trying to get them to work.. Returned them all for batch two and everything is slick..
I suppose I'm just talking out of my ass..

Perhaps you havent used the search function or Googled "8800GT Problem"

i have very good industry contacts and i don't need to be a google warrior



Rollo lol as if nvidia would tell you any different directly
i certainly wouldn't take all PR info for granted hehehe

[2000army]

i have very good industry contacts and i don't need to be a google warrior

[Rollo]

O ya Rollo, like Nv is gonna tell ya they are having issues...

The seasons don't even change around you Nvidia Focus group folks.....

"Gee, what's the weather gonna be like here in Juno tommorrow... What, sunny and 85 degrees. fabulous, just like today"!!

Hmmm.

You have no clue what the nature of my communication with NVIDIA is like, yet you assume you do.

I'd say you're not in a position to comment, and that your comments hold no more weight than me saying "Yeah Muzz, like your dad is going to tell you he banged his secretary!".

Point is I have no way of knowing, and thus no reason to comment.

[Ethelred]

Hmmm.

You have no clue what the nature of my communication with NVIDIA is like, yet you assume you do.

I'd say you're not in a position to comment, and that your comments hold no more weight than me saying "Yeah Muzz, like your dad is going to tell you he banged his secretary!".

Point is I have no way of knowing, and thus no reason to comment.

It is common practice in business to never let the consumer/patron know there is a problem unless it is utterly and uncontrollably out of hand (see Tire Recalls). It is bad business and will affect the user/patrons view of the company. Most issues are handled internally and with luck no consumer/patron will realise it until after the dust has settled. This applies in all areas of business from corporate to restaurant. (See NDA)

I would trust your source more if you had said "Yeah, I have a friend how works at NVidia say their are some slight issues" rather than "Nvidia Spokesperson (see Damage Control) said there is nothing to see here move along".

[Rollo]

It is common practice in business to never let the consumer/patron know there is a problem unless it is utterly and uncontrollably out of hand (see Tire Recalls). It is bad business and will affect the user/patrons view of the company. Most issues are handled internally and with luck no consumer/patron will realise it until after the dust has settled. This applies in all areas of business from corporate to restaurant. (See NDA)

I would trust your source more if you had said "Yeah, I have a friend how works at NVidia say their are some slight issues" rather than "Nvidia Spokesperson (see Damage Control) said there is nothing to see here move along".

That's because you want to believe there are issues, and have no understanding of my relationship with NVIDIA.

I'm not a consumer, I'm a guy who's signed an NDA and been trusted with confidential information many times over the years. I get information you don't, and I get information you do, before you do.

One guy started this rumor about a "bad batch of 8800GTs" by posting all over the Internet that "A BFG rep told him he's taking 100s of calls about defective GTs, and that people should wait a while to buy them so they can clear out of the channel".

How does that play into your damage control theory? Telling the consumer your products are defective? (not to mention BFG reps posted in reply they had told him no such thing)

Now you say you would be more likely to believe it if I were to say there were defects than that there are not.

Why? What if there are really not defects?

BTW- what do you do for a living that you supposedly know how "most issues are handled"? Do you work for "most businesses" or are you just in communication with "most businesses" at a level you would know?

Are you familiar with the terms "anecdotal evidence" and "hasty generalization"? If so, you know why your tire industry example is totally meaningless.

How do you know what "bad business" is? The auto industry issues public recalls all the time, apparently one industry is outside of your corporate to restuarant generalization.

Here's what I think:
I think that if you're a working person, you've worked in a capacity that you would know how such things are handled at less then 5 companies. I also think that all the people you know who could/would tell you about such things is less than 20. I think what you know about how such decisions are made from first hand experience, and even from hearsay, is spit in the ocean of 1000s and 1000s of businesses.

Furthermore, I think that it wouldn't matter if you really did know how "most businesses" would react - the key factor here is that unless you work at NVIDIA or one of it's OEMs, you can't say for sure whether the info they gave me is true or not.

[Ethelred]

That's because you want to believe there are issues, and have no understanding of my relationship with NVIDIA.

Not at all. I know that the world we live in is not a perfect world I would rather have a company come forth and say that they have had some slight and not wide spread QC issue. As well as I know that rarely, from my experience, do things go right the first time around, (more so on a large scale) thus the saying "practice makes perfect"

I'm not a consumer, I'm a guy who's signed an NDA and been trusted with confidential information many times over the years. I get information you don't, and I get information you do, before you do.

I think that is all that needs to be said...you signed the NDA, which means any information you can release has been kosher approved...which means what you have to say means little to nothing. (In regards to the possibility of issues arising from QC or the ilik)

Now you say you would be more likely to believe it if I were to say there were defects than that there are not.

I really wouldn't be more likely. I would like to think of myself as an optimist rather than pessimist it was merely an example.

Why? What if there are really not defects?

Just like WinXP/Vista/ME were all ready to be sent to retail...again there are always defects...just depends on the scale.

Edit: Bad example (see Ford Pinto/Articles of Confederation for better examples)

BTW- what do you do for a living that you supposedly know how "most issues are handled"? Do you work for "most businesses" or are you just in communication with "most businesses" at a level you would know?

I work in an environment where no mistakes are tolerable and the outcome of a mistake is made aware very rapidly as well as dealt with in and with the utmost care and consideration.

In regards to the auto industry the only reason why most of the recalls are sent is to prevent class action lawsuits and because they have a slight moral obligation...but even then they weigh the harm vs. cost.

Furthermore, I think that it wouldn't matter if you really did know how "most businesses" would react - the key factor here is that unless you work at NVIDIA or one of it's OEMs, you can't say for sure whether the info they gave me is true or not.

Which insights further mistrust on your hand...

[Brian MP5T]

I didn't have to use Google. I talked to people at NVIDIA and BFG directly, they said "Nothing out of the ordinary for returns".

Then Kyle at HardOCP talked to several OEMs and found out the same, published an article about this rumor.

Go figure.

LOL at you...


No matter how well you know your neighbors... When they have a huge fight... they tell you that it's nothing... Why would a multinational company be any different...

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[Brian MP5T]

That's because you want to believe there are issues, and have no understanding of my relationship with NVIDIA....

Dude, It doesn't matter to me even if you are "Doing Nvidea" or if they all come over to your house for Egg Nog at Christmas.

I have 4, none of them were stable past 3 minutes. I got them the day they were released. I tried them SLI, then Individually. Most of the people who were at the store that day, have returned them for a different, shipment. Smells like a bad batch..

We Tried All Drivers
We Tried EVERYTHING
We Returned The Card
We Got New Cards
NO MORE PROBLEM.

No Matter what you say about the batch..

"If It Walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck... It's A DUCK!"

[cavfire]

I've heard of this alleged bad first batch, and honestly it wouldn't surprise me. I've seen a lot more threads on this and other forums about pixelation issues as well as compatibility issues. I don't know if the card was rushed to steal the spotlight from the HD3870 or not, but whatever the reason I've seen numerous problems with the 8800gt with very few issues with the HD3870. Unfortunately it seems like the luck of the draw at this early stage.

[Brian MP5T]

I'm super happy with mine. They are a great performer and I was able to get them at $250.00 before the price went up..