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    Quote Originally Posted by cstkl1 View Post
    try this
    900 4-4-4-8-3-25-6-3-7-5-4-5-4-4

    thats even faster...
    Wont even boot, prolly needs more DRAM volts to get it though.... still my 900 is pulling 9k+ read and 8-8.2k write/copy with about 54ns

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    Stuck at CP INIT

    Hey guys, yesterday my rig was running fine (see sig), Q6600 at 350 x 9. I received my second SATA DVD burner, so I unplugged the computer, cracked open the case and installed the burner. I also pulled off the Ultima90 cooler and added a bit more thermal paste, because I was getting high temps on 1 core during load test in Everest.

    After I put everything back together, when I went to start it up, it would not post. Everything was spinning (all fans, all the LED's) and the board seems to have full power. The power switch won't even work to turn it off... I have to actually flip off the power at the back of the PSU (Corsair 620).

    I hooked up the mini LCD, and tried again. I'm stuck at CPU INIT, with all fans running full blast and board LED's lit up. After shutting it down, I cleared the CMOS by holding in the button for ten seconds. Still stuck at CPU INIT. I uplugged the new burner, still stuck. Played with my RAM (two sticks, different slots, one stick, Channel A), still no go.

    Any ideas? Possible short? Take out the CMOS battery? Take MoBo out of case and off of mobo tray, hook up the bare essentials? Anybody else have this problem, and find a workaround?
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    Nurn.. you broke your cpu.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs View Post
    Just to add, X48, although being newer and a higher model number, is not necessarily any different for us overclockers anyways. X48 only really makes official claim specs to FSB 1600 and DDR1600. DDR3 based X38's do that with ease already, it's called overclocking. X48 looses true ECC DDR support.

    It looks more like X48 may just be another chipset stepping stone (like P35 to X38) till something new and improoved coems for Nehelam support w/ modern DDR3 and ICH10R and new Intel integrated MCH on chip for end of next year, or early '09.
    Please, don't claim facts, when you don't know what really it is (sorry, was also pi**ed by that Barton explanation, and just prefered to shut up, as some people -not you- are deaf to any explanations, but kimandsally showed it very well). No bad feelings, but here are FACTS

    http://news.softpedia.com/news/Gigab...48-71635.shtml

    Gigabyte is taking the time to build a rev1.1 of the board when they can just swap the X38 for a X48. Looks like PCB v1.1 will be reserved to the next X48 with an emphasis on overclocking performance... Also, a rev1.1 less than 2 months after a rev1.0...

    Be sure, ASUS is doing the same, but, opposed to Gigabyte, they never officially announced in time a "small revision of their PCBs (they are very marketting aware to do it).

    Buyers should really wait, the X48 on new PCB revisions should definetealy give the stability of quadcores over 400MHz FSB. If that stability is so hard to reach till now, it is evident that it is not a CPU or RAM problem, but a motherboard problem. With offcial 400 FSB support for upcoming 45nm quad core CPUs, the X48 motherboards layout will have no choice than give you some headroom to garant stability at 400MHz FSB. Pumping 425-440 MHz from actual Q6600 chips, would no longer be motherboard limited hopefully.

    In fact, actually, all X38 PCB revisions need to pump a crazy vcore in the NB and FSB to stabilize a 400MHz FSB on the quads, while, on the new X48 revisions, it will be at stock specs.

    My two cents, based on Gigabyte official announcements and Intel 400MHz FSB quad cores that new motherboards must support fully at stock specs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by safan80 View Post
    Nurn.. you broke your cpu.
    Nah prolly not.

    stuck on CPU init in display =/= b0rked cpu.

    Try to clear CMOS without CPU in socket, or check for other solutions on ASUS forum for CPU INIT "bug"

    Or else just RMA your board and watch your cpu boot ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny_ftm View Post
    Please, don't claim facts, when you don't know what really it is (sorry, was also pi**ed by that Barton explanation, and just prefered to shut up, as some people -not you- are deaf to any explanations, but kimandsally showed it very well). No bad feelings, but here are FACTS

    http://news.softpedia.com/news/Gigab...48-71635.shtml

    Gigabyte is taking the time to build a rev1.1 of the board when they can just swap the X38 for a X48. Looks like PCB v1.1 will be reserved to the next X48 with an emphasis on overclocking performance... Also, a rev1.1 less than 2 months after a rev1.0...

    Be sure, ASUS is doing the same, but, opposed to Gigabyte, they never officially announced in time a "small revision of their PCBs (they are very marketting aware to do it).

    Buyers should really wait, the X48 on new PCB revisions should definetealy give the stability of quadcores over 400MHz FSB. If that stability is so hard to reach till now, it is evident that it is not a CPU or RAM problem, but a motherboard problem. With offcial 400 FSB support for upcoming 45nm quad core CPUs, the X48 motherboards layout will have no choice than give you some headroom to garant stability at 400MHz FSB. Pumping 425-440 MHz from actual Q6600 chips, would no longer be motherboard limited hopefully.

    In fact, actually, all X38 PCB revisions need to pump a crazy vcore in the NB and FSB to stabilize a 400MHz FSB on the quads, while, on the new X48 revisions, it will be at stock specs.

    My two cents, based on Gigabyte official announcements and Intel 400MHz FSB quad cores that new motherboards must support fully at stock specs.

    That makes very good sense to me, if I had spent the time thinking about what X48 does ie 400MHZ @ standard I would have waited for X48 it looks very promising doesn't it.
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    Is it a bad idea to buy this board . What kind of future does it have ? I want to buy tomorrow btw :P so let me know . All I want is 3ghz on a Q6600 but I want crossfire too. It seems theres a bunch of problems but hopefully everything is resolved soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by leoftw View Post
    Is it a bad idea to buy this board . What kind of future does it have ? I want to buy tomorrow btw :P so let me know . All I want is 3ghz on a Q6600 but I want crossfire too. It seems theres a bunch of problems but hopefully everything is resolved soon.
    you shouldn't have any trouble getting 3Ghz. I can run 9x400 with my B3 chip no problem on this board.


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    ordering before 12 tomorrow . Hopefully I don't regret it .

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    what the difference between the se and the xtreme versions ?

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    Maximus extreme has DDR3 compatibility.
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    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by kimandsally View Post
    A Barton 2500 overclocked to 2700MHz with 2.0v is 148 Watts

    A B3 Quad 2400 overclocked to 3600MHz with 1.4v is 198 Watts

    I hope not to cause arguments but I thought this had to be shown.

    The Barton would be pretty good to do 2700 and 2v is quite high I think, where the Quad clocked to 3.6MHZ is very average with VERY low volts of 1.4

    More likely the Quad would go to 3.8 @ 1.6v which would be 272 Watts

    That's why they take a bit of cooling.

    This is only here to maybe help show why and not put forward as an argument just some plain easy mathematical facts.
    How do you work this out?

    My C2D E6550 2.33ghz is running at 3.514ghz at 1.36v, so whats that in watts??
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    so how bad is the problem with removing the stock nb heatsink off this mobo. i hear it could actually tear off the nb completely . Damn !!

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    if you get it warm enough with a hair dryer,you wont have the slightest problem..just be patient and careful..
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    Quote Originally Posted by leoftw View Post
    so how bad is the problem with removing the stock nb heatsink off this mobo. i hear it could actually tear off the nb completely . Damn !!
    Not that i'd recommend it, but I took mine off while the PC was still switched on. It more or less just fell off with the slightest pull on it! I had to shut the PC down quick smart though as the temp started to rocket!!!

    I then took the normal route for the SB and it was a pain to get off but being patient it did eventually!
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    anyone a clue about Super PI 1.5

    Iīm running my sys @ 425x9 / Q6600

    but if i validate my pi i get "checksum is incorrect"

    Sys is prime stable for at least 2hours
    memtest -> no errors

    dram is @ 1020 / 5-5-5-15 all auto

    any ideas?

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    Are there any difference in therms of overclockebility between the "white" and the "blue" slots , @ the P5K Deluxe the "black" slots are better then the "yellow" one, but it could be that the black dimms got a bigger drive strenght that can causing death RAMS in the long run...... I had some Mushkin XP8500 that were degrading slowly using those "black " slots , I dont know if there is a co-relation....
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    Hmmn, i've just been thinking. My E6550 is maxed out at 502FSB but my mem is only running 1004mhz. How or what would I adjust so that it was running at the full 1066mhz or maybe even overclock them??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cumulonimbus View Post
    Already? nice, looking forward to trying it out.
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    Yep take ya time twist it gently , never use brute force, it took me about 30mins to get it off, then another half an hour to get rid of the goo on the NB...

    It's a tedious job but reduced my NB temps about 5°C
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    Quote Originally Posted by thelawns View Post
    Not that i'd recommend it, but I took mine off while the PC was still switched on. It more or less just fell off with the slightest pull on it! I had to shut the PC down quick smart though as the temp started to rocket!!!

    I then took the normal route for the SB and it was a pain to get off but being patient it did eventually!
    What temp differences did you get with the HR-05 IFX? I'm tempted to buy two for my NB and SB.
    My NB temps are consistently at around 45-49 celcius, which although isn't bad, means that I can't push my NB volts any further without getting paranoid
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    Quote Originally Posted by devilhood View Post
    What temp differences did you get with the HR-05 IFX? I'm tempted to buy two for my NB and SB.
    My NB temps are consistently at around 45-49 celcius, which although isn't bad, means that I can't push my NB volts any further without getting paranoid
    I've got the iFx on my north bridge and it idles at 36-37 degrees and peaks at 40 under load w/ 1.57V.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TouGe View Post
    I've got the iFx on my north bridge and it idles at 36-37 degrees and peaks at 40 under load w/ 1.57V.
    Impressive, I will definitely put an order for it now
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