9500 running in M2N-SLi deluxe

[Chaos-Storm]

I restarted through windows. No reset/power button of any kind.

[Punisher!]

So still HTT limited?

[mAJORD]

Yeah it was a total different ballgame clocking the K8s on the Giga, dinos. A dream infact.

Tried all voltages, I think the NB is possibly the "issue"

[zer0kewl]

oke took while to activate had 1 question to amd phenom
are you having cool'n quite turned on.
as your system is booting @ 1200 mhz or is it turned off
also intrested in 3dmark6 score.
with previous cpu and ofc phenom.
i'm likely to upg to phenom asswell
got same mobo.

[kazgirl]

Well that's been an entire evening spent on SLi and Vista

I can't get AMD overdrive to run on vista as it insists it can't detect the RD700 chipset

I run 06 under XP in SLi and got this http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=3904546

I'm a complete newbie to sli so I'm unsure if sli was even setup properly.

I managed little else I'm afraid.

Hi AMD-Phenom,

Just a confirmation for you, I get that exact same problem with AMD Overdrive and Vista, "Can't detect RD700 chipset" , I even downloaded the earlier version to try in case it had been updated to only run on 700 chipset, but still no luck.....

The 3dmark06 score seems to suggest that SLI is enabled for you, I was getting 12800 score with my 6400+ @ 3520MHz and 2 x 8800GTS 320MB Oc'd @ 612/900 in SLI and Vista..... so your 12400 score with the Phenom at 2640Mhz is about the score I was expecting to see.... so I'll definitely mention it in any reply to ASUS once they get back to me......so big thank you for that... just wish this BIOS for the M2N32-SLI was working as well as the one for the M2N-SLI... I'm itching to get on with this Phenom, and its killing me to be forced to have to wait for ASUS to get their act together, I've had this Phenom for 5 days now, and I can't do anything with it, or my PC....going to give it another week then, my 6400+ is going back in....... damned ASUS...

[Computerville]

Very nice...

I had one very bad issue when I updated my Asus Crosshair to latest BIOS (that one who supports Phenom)

Then I could only have HTT 1x, the same frequency as my FSB
ONLY 1X HTT!! and I lost 20FPS in 3DMark just like that...

Then I reflashed to an earlier BIOS... and my Crosshair JUST DIED...
I have sent it on RMA and asking for Gigabyte GA-MA790FX-DQ6, AMD 790FX...

I will write a review when I get my new motherboard...

Have a good time!

[Nazu]

I doubt you get a new mobo if you crapped the mobo by flashing bios...Though if it froze during the bios update then it's possible to RMA it.

[kazgirl]

Well that's been an entire evening spent on SLi and Vista

I can't get AMD overdrive to run on vista as it insists it can't detect the RD700 chipset

I run 06 under XP in SLi and got this http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=3904546

I'm a complete newbie to sli so I'm unsure if sli was even setup properly.

I managed little else I'm afraid.

Hi AMD-Phenom or others, this is the compare url for my Phenom, http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=3856610 you can see the problems I mean with the graphics performance....

I checked with your compare url and its obvious theres something seriously wrong....

[Computerville]

I doubt you get a new mobo if you crapped the mobo by flashing bios...Though if it froze during the bios update then it's possible to RMA it.

Yeaa, I know... in fact if they knew that I was flashing they wouldn´t give me a new board...

I diden´t told them I was flashing, of course, - I am not stupid =)

I told them it just died... and I think they are to stupid to figure it out...

Have a nice day...

[VulgarHandle]

Yeaa, I know... in fact if they knew that I was flashing they wouldn´t give me a new board...

I diden´t told them I was flashing, of course, - I am not stupid =)

I told them it just died... and I think they are to stupid to figure it out...

Have a nice day...

[kazgirl]

Hi lo squartatore,

I can't give you any inof on the OC potential of the 9500 myself at the moment I'm afraid, as the motherboard BIOS doesn't currently offer the best support for the Phenom.

As far as I know 2.75Ghz is the best that AMD-Phenom has gotten but not stable, and I beleive thats using the stock voltage...... but maybe he can let us know if hes tried a voltage increase or not....

It seems that the general consensus of opinion is that the OC is being limited by the NB and HTT...... but I think it would be fair to say that BIOS support is limited - at the moment at least - and this could be holding things back, maybe once mobo manufacturers catch up with things and get some improved BIOS' available then more/better options will be avaiable for overclocking...

Sorry can't settle the discussions once and for all for you, but hope it gives you a little more information to go on....

[Boschwanza]

WPCREDIT works on DQ6

http://www.abload.de/image.php?img=nbtvia.jpg

[kazgirl]

but at 3.6Ghz can never get .
or not ?

Hi if your asking if 3.6Ghz is a possible OC of the 9500, speaking for myself I would say theres no chance of it...!!!! Thats not to say that later revisions of the Phenom won't though..... !!! I think 3.0GHz for the 9500 will probably be easily within reach, once BIOS issues are taken care of.... but its still very early days and a lot more info is needed before sayng anything for certain...

[AMD-PHENOM]

oke took while to activate had 1 question to amd phenom
are you having cool'n quite turned on.
as your system is booting @ 1200 mhz or is it turned off

C&Q is definately off mate.

Hi AMD-Phenom,

Just a confirmation for you, I get that exact same problem with AMD Overdrive and Vista, "Can't detect RD700 chipset" , I even downloaded the earlier version to try in case it had been updated to only run on 700 chipset, but still no luck.....

The 3dmark06 score seems to suggest that SLI is enabled for you, I was getting 12800 score with my 6400+ @ 3520MHz and 2 x 8800GTS 320MB Oc'd @ 612/900 in SLI and Vista..... so your 12400 score with the Phenom at 2640Mhz is about the score I was expecting to see....

I tried the very same tactic with an earlier version of AMD-OD

I re-tried 06 last night with a single GTS and scored 11,3**. I must say I'm a tad displeased at the level of sli performance if this is how sli performs. A 1k gain with the addition of a 2nd GTS 640MB seems incorrect to me (but then I'm sli newbie).

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Ok. I re-installed XP and started afresh. Cpuz now reports vcore more accurately than before but AMD-OD now doesn't update cpu/mem/htt speeds in the gui...settings apply but are shown incorrectly.

XPpro sp2, Phenom driver, chipset drivers (v9.19), then AMD-OD and finally Ai booster.

WPcredit works np, but NB speed would appear to NOT be the problem on this mobo.

If I set x10 NB multi with WPcredit then x11 is displayed in AMD-OD and memory pane of cpuz 1.42.

I also set it to x8 but still FSB lock up at 250

I managed to catch a 2750mhz part-screenie with x11 NB runing same speed as cpu

In regards to vcore and NB voltage increases I've tried upto 1.55v with upto 1.50v to the NB with no effect whatsoever.

The relaxed memory timings in these screenies were in an effort to rule out memory dividers and/or timings with again zero effect.

edit.....

BIG thanx to tic-tac for the heads up on wpcrcedit

[Boschwanza]

Could you explore any performance boosts due the higher NB frequencies?

[AMD-PHENOM]

but the voltage in AMD overdirve can't increase ?

Phenom is a FLOP !!!

No, on this mobo AMD-OD cannot increase the voltages. I can adjust them via Ai booster or in th bios np. I'd hardly call phenom a flop due to an incompatibility issue with a gui, that's a little too xtreme

[AMD-PHENOM]

Could you explore any performance boosts due the higher NB frequencies?

Sure thing bud......gimme an hour or so to re-run some benches and i'll post back.

[kazgirl]

C&Q is definately off mate.



I tried the very same tactic with an earlier version of AMD-OD

I re-tried 06 last night with a single GTS and scored 11,3**. I must say I'm a tad displeased at the level of sli performance if this is how sli performs. A 1k gain with the addition of a 2nd GTS 640MB seems incorrect to me (but then I'm sli newbie).

Hmm still suggests that theres a HT issue then IMO, when I went from single 8800GTS to 2 x 8800GTS SLI, I saw an increase from about 8000 to 12000, so a 4k difference.....

I'd say this is still an issue with the HT BUS, or possibly even an isse with the gfx card drivers....????? Maybe Nvidia need to bring out new drivers for the Phenom...????

[Sparky]

but the voltage in AMD overdirve can't increase ?

Phenom is a FLOP !!!

I wouldn't say it is a flop. Heck these overclocks are on boards that apparently don't have the best of support for this CPU.

I'm thinking things would be smoother with a new 790 chipset-based board

[OBR]

Phenom is really crap, my max OC is 2450MHz ... poor AMD in end of their life ... performance is flaky ... and stupid MOFO with new nick can say anything ... Phenom is totall crap ...

[BeardyMan]

Phenom is really crap, my max OC is 2450MHz ... poor AMD in end of their life ... performance is flaky ... and stupid MOFO with new nick can say anything ... Phenom is totall crap ...

will report this in a sec omg
they say that i don't have anything usefull to contribute but this is utter BS .

[Kasparz]

I told them it just died... and I think they are to stupid to figure it out...

Mind if I'll email GNT?

[LowRun]

I doubt you get a new mobo if you crapped the mobo by flashing bios...Though if it froze during the bios update then it's possible to RMA it.

Huuuuu... And since when flashing a bios and killing the board in the process is supposed to void your warranty unless it's a beta bios???

[kazgirl]

Phenom is really crap, my max OC is 2450MHz ... poor AMD in end of their life ... performance is flaky ... and stupid MOFO with new nick can say anything ... Phenom is totall crap ...

OBR might I suggest that you at the least specify that it is your opinion that Phenom is crap, though you've not given any real basis for your conclusion, or given any details of what it is you have tried, to OC your Phenom, if in fact you have one....!!!

You...like everyne...are entitled to their opinion, but to trash someone elses opinio, you must surely be prepared to have your own opinion drawn into question.....

Better if you just state that it is "IMO" or similar, than to cast aspersions on other peoples opinions.....

You say that Phenom is total crap, and yet it seems apparrent to most reasonable people that it has hardly been a week since it was released, and that there are still some issues surrounding motherboard support for Phenom, which is hardly demonstrative that Phenom itself is total crap..... as you put it..... but more likely that motherboard manufacturers have done a poor job of providing adequate support for their products.....

Please by all means do provide us with your screenshots and analysis of your own Phenom OC attempts, this will at least then give some support and possibly credence to your OPINION.....!!!!! and will actually make a useful and worthwhile contribution to this thread.... and will serve to show others the details of the particular setup and any issues.....

[informal]

I agree with kazgirl.
OBR,i am very interested in a pic of your Phenom CPU.Also a picture of a running system along with Everest running would be appreciated.
Phenom is a long way from total crap...The boards and bioses could be called like that(but still that would be pushing it..).
BIOS support will come just as it did with the initial AM2 boards that could barely beat the older s939 systems(later on with good bios and ram,AM2 could easily outrun per clock and outclock any s939 system;today we have 3.5Ghz X2 systems running,with 65nm G2s hitting 3.4Ghz region with air)