9500 running in M2N-SLi deluxe

[v0dka]

AMD-PHENOM, thans for the results. The 3d06 bench looks very good.

Is 2.7 the limit for stock Vcore? Is this prime stable?

[mAJORD]

great stuff AMD_PHENOM

I have a no boot wall @ 2.7 as well on this Gigabyte, hence I haven't posted anything yet as i've been busy trying to get around it.

It's stable up to it, I'm not sure what the deal is either.

[gOtVoltage]

LoL...yeah...unfortunately my bank mangager disagrees and is forcing me to stick with this AM2 mobo for the time being.....!!!!

Im definatly buying a Phenom...Ill be very happy , Now that i know for fact its working with a M2N32deluxe . Now ill be able to really play around with my GTS on 4cores.

Thank you for posting results This is what i have been waiting for and 2.7ghz by 4cores is faster than what i have now! Even with low memory settings !
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[Jamesrt2004]

great stuff AMD_PHENOM

I have a no boot wall @ 2.7 as well on this Gigabyte, hence I haven't posted anything yet as i've been busy trying to get around it.

It's stable up to it, I'm not sure what the deal is either.

Are you using stock volt's ? like the OP?

and what temps like you get to 2.7 on what volts?, what temps are they? and also what cooling are you using for it

[AMD-PHENOM]

Thanx all. I'll post back with results for any tests requested in a short while.

Would like to see:
Geekbench, SuperPi, Prime95 multicore stability test

will post results shortly bud.

Have you played with Vcore and what are the temps for cores under load @OC speeds.
Keep up the nice mini review

I tried a small increase to 1.45v but saw no improvement in stability beyond 250fsb. The NB speed is 22++mhz at that point so whether or not that is a problem for this mobo I am unsure.

I've been finding that with my M2N32SLI that there are some major issues with the graphics perforamance, and my current thinking is that it is a compatability issue, to do with the NB, PCI-E, HT issues within the BIOS...

I'd be really grateful if you can provide some insight into the graphics issues..

I've also been having problems with my RAM, and any attempt to get the RAM to run as rated via the SLI profiles results in a failure to POST...

I can't make any changes within the BIOS either, if I do then POST fails, do you experiece similar problems....

Perhaps if I try using the AMD OVerdrive, instead of the BIOS to make system changes then I may have more luck.....but I'm more accustomed to making these changes via the BIOS....

Appreciate any insight you can give into the above....

PS. Which version of CPU-Z are you using as when I tried 1.41 it didn't show a HT Link Speed, and neither did v.1.42, though v. 1.42 does dipslay the Phenom logo rather than the AMD logo..

I was using cpuz 1.41 until last night then changed to 1.42. I get a NB speed display under the memory tab in cpuz now, aswell as ganged or unganged info.

As far as nvidia epp timings on your memory, personally I've always had problems with those myself. I find my bios now displays different timings (4,4,3,12) as opposed to what I manually set (4,4,4,12) and I also have issue with restarts. I can make changes in bios ok, and restart.......I can cold boot np......but if I restart from within windows, mobo hangs on post regardless of speed/settings.

In relation to 3D performance, I am about to install a second 8800GTS in 5minutes and will be able to comment more in a little while.

How about running cinebench? I want to see +3GHz.

I ran cinebench mate.....I'll get to C10 in a while.

LoL...yeah...unfortunately my bank mangager disagrees and is forcing me to stick with this AM2 mobo for the time being.....!!!!

Sell your AM2 and get an MSi 790X for much cheapness.

[kazgirl]

Im definatly buying a Phenom...Ill be very happy , Now that i know for fact its working with a M2N32deluxe . Now ill be able to really play around with my GTS on 4cores.

Thank you for posting results This is what i have been waiting for and 2.7ghz by 4cores is faster than what i have now! Even with low memory settings !
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Hi there, just in case you didn't see it earlier, even though the system boots with Phenom and M2N32SLI, I'm still having some problems with overall system performance, I'm hoping that ASUS will release another BIOS sometime soon, to help sort it...!!!!

Thanx all. I'll post back with results for any tests requested in a short while.

Sell your AM2 and get an MSi 790X for much cheapness.

Hi thanks for the info, I'll be looking forward to seeing more of your results as well.... about the mobo, actually I'm kind of waiting to see how things pan out before deciding on a 790FX mobo or seeing how the new nVidia MCP72 chipset for AM2+ performs in comparison.....as I have 2 8800GTS' it would be a cheaper upgrade if the nvidia AM2+ boards can give good performance, as I can delay having to upgrade my gfx cards for a bit longer......I was hoping these cards would last until Q2 '08....but if the Nvidia boards don't perform as well as the 790FX boards, then I'll be getting a 790FX and 2 x 3870 X2's to crossfire..... as long as the bank manager agrees of course....

[Jacky]

It's sad but the Nuclearus FPU score is almost identical to K8. and it barely beats K8's ALU score.

Overall the nuclearus score is also much weaker than Core 2's (ok that's not a surprise; interesting note though: phenom does not lose all tests but wins some, losing many others)
Overclocked Phenom gets beaten by an overclocked E4400 in FPU/ALU score

I don't understand how much of a difference memory/bios makes for the tests as I don't know how Nuclearus really works, but it shouldn't impact the single threaded ALU/FPU results much if at all.
[Data taken from the Nuclearus thread (page 11):
San Diego 3700+ @ 2750Mhz
2Gb Kingmax DDR400 @ 200 2,5-3-3-7 2T
Asus A8N-Sli

Conroe E6600 @ 2754Mhz
2Gb Mushkin XP6400 @ 460Mhz 5-5-5-15 2T
Dfi Infinity P-965 S]
A clock for clock comparison to Yorkfield in Nuclearus would be even more interesting.

[gOtVoltage]

Yup thanks Kaz.....

Ill probally grab a Phenom after Christmas, its nice to know they boot and run on The Mobo....Im saving for new 790chipset but want to be able to test drive My M2N32deluxe before i jump into New MOBO/RAM and possable Videocard....Id really be happy with just changing my X2 to a X4 and save money towards New Nvidia GTS...


Oh Yeah Kaz....liked the analogy of (brick laying) for windows Thats so easy to remeber...

P.S just in case AMD-Phenom ,what 790 do you reconmend? I was thinking Asus again but am up for what bets the Job done with decent Ocability.

[Titan7171]

here we go.

2706mhz in AM2 mobo on stock volts. Need more time to mess around but I'm positive the NB speed is the wall here. CPU runs very cool on stock HS with chilled air.

Since I can't access the cpu multi the system boots at 1100mhz, a simple increase of multi within amd overdrive sorts that out, then I use Ai booster to increase the cpu fsb since overdrive's fsb slider is non functional on this mobo.

I've included a few quick bench scores at 2700mhz as promised low mem speed just now until I figure this out.

3D 06 CPU, CINEBENCH, EVEREST, CM9, NUCLEARUS

they made it look so easy in this video set the multi to 14 then set the hyper traNSport reference clock to 215 and then the pciE clock to 220 just to see if it works he didnt even raise the voltage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_q_9...ad.php?t=45474

just curious if these settings would work like the video btw hes using the 9500 he gets 3ghz without breaking a sweat.

[kazgirl]

Yup thanks Kaz.....

Oh Yeah Kaz....liked the analogy of (brick laying) for windows Thats so easy to remeber...

Hi, I guess you been over to ocforums as well....lol.... at least I think thats where I posted that one, a while back....lol...

So many forums, hard to keep track of them all...!!!

@Titan

just curious if these settings would work like the video btw hes using the 9500 he gets 3ghz without breaking a sweat.

The 9500 has a max mulitplier of x11, the CPU in that vid must be an engineering sample, maybe when the 9600 unlocked version comes out it'll be as easy as the vid shows....

[haylui]

at least AMD Phenom series gives more performance than reported in those hardware review sites, which is not bad at all. So I will also consider getting an Athlon X2 combo and then later upgrade to Phenom when B3 stepping hits the market. Anyway, thanks AMD_PHENOM for the hard work.

[Boschwanza]

I guess its due a NB issue. Almost all of the Phenoms stuck at 2700 MHz or 2200 NB MHz frequency. Should be interesting to set a lower multi to the NB and try some OC above 2.7 GHz, unfortunatly there is no Bios option at this time to lower the NB Multi.

[AMD-PHENOM]

Hope this is correct.

[AMD-PHENOM]

and these, for those interested.

[mstp2009]

Sciencemark normally gives you a set of scores like this:



Do you have those scores?

[AMD-PHENOM]

Super Pi @ 2706mhz, an updated nuclearus at the max passable 2738mhz which netted a 500point gain......aswell as max cpuz verification so far in this mobo.

I'll continue in the morning then switch to the 790X.

[AMD-PHENOM]

Sciencemark normally gives you a set of scores like this:

Do you have those scores?

ah ok, I run the tests indivudually....I'll re-run them again first thing.

[Start]

I'm suprised you getting pretty decent results on a board with not perfect bios Great work so far.

If you have time, I was running if you can run the Folding@Home SMP Client. You can find more info here. Thanks

[Chaos-Storm]

I just bought a Phenom 9500 for my M2N-SLI deluxe as well.

AMD-Phenom, can you list exactly what changes you made to the bios? I can only revert it to stock from 1.1 ghz some of the time on bootup, other times it just freezes. I though i just had to lower the HTT multiplier, and that works some of the time, but other times i it just freezes when i change the CPU multiplier in AMD overdrive.

For anyone wondering, i have tried overclocking it, and the highest i got so far was 250 X 11 = 2750 Mhz, but it wasn't stable. About 2 minutes into a benchmark i ran, it quit.

[mAJORD]

Are you using stock volt's ? like the OP?

and what temps like you get to 2.7 on what volts?, what temps are they? and also what cooling are you using for it

Nope, +0.05v for 2.67, up from the stock 1.25v

Stock volt's isn't 4 core stable past 2.55 on mine, at least not with the standard cooling.. 6000+ stock cooler instead (heatpipe version)

With it, Temps are low 40s idle, high 50's 4core prime load

The chip seems to respond well to a small bump in vcore though.

thinkin of changing boards to something else >:|

[Xtrmi]

These are pretty good results considering the limitations of the mobos. You got my hopes up cuz most review sites had a negative tone towards this processor. AMD has always been the best imo. Hopefully they wil be proving this in the benchmarks soon.

[Jamesrt2004]

Nope, +0.05v for 2.67, up from the stock 1.25v

Stock volt's isn't 4 core stable past 2.55 on mine, at least not with the standard cooling.. 6000+ stock cooler instead (heatpipe version)

With it, Temps are low 40s idle, high 50's 4core prime load

The chip seems to respond well to a small bump in vcore though.

thinkin of changing boards to something else >:|

Cheers for that info, should be getting one of these puppies in a month + i guess with a tad better heatsink to try oc a bit

[informal]

Nope, +0.05v for 2.67, up from the stock 1.25v

Stock volt's isn't 4 core stable past 2.55 on mine, at least not with the standard cooling.. 6000+ stock cooler instead (heatpipe version)

With it, Temps are low 40s idle, high 50's 4core prime load

The chip seems to respond well to a small bump in vcore though.

thinkin of changing boards to something else >:|

Very good informations man .Seems that board or more likely BIOS is a limiting factor.
Have you tried upping the NB voltage?When you get above ~2.2Ghz for NB ,it seems like a showstopper .I guess the Phenom OCs near 3Ghz range were done on ES with unlocked multi which allowed the NB to stay at default clocks while the cores were OCed.Now we need the same divider option for the NB as we have for memory on RevF&G,in order to keep it under 2.2Ghz.And like i said,maybe NB voltage could help a bit.

Good luck man!

[Nazu]

they made it look so easy in this video set the multi to 14 then set the hyper traNSport reference clock to 215 and then the pciE clock to 220 just to see if it works he didnt even raise the voltage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_q_9...ad.php?t=45474

just curious if these settings would work like the video btw hes using the 9500 he gets 3ghz without breaking a sweat.

That's AMD's commercial video and Macci works for AMD... I'm pretty damn sure he's using a unlocked cpu and the cpu is the cherrypicked. Same thing with Intel/Ati/nVidia's commercial videos, I wouldn't take any of them seriously.

[Jeff]

Awesome results, thanks for sharing!

I'm going to be buying 3 to 4 of these setups to replace the existing Opteron mini-farm and I was worried. Not really worried too much anymore considering I won't be buying for a month and hopefully the BIOS issues will be worked out by then.

Thanks again.