Gigabyte MA790FX DQ6

[S1nn3r]

Lightman, any time!

Well, I can request RD790 Revision Errata document to find any mention about your issue. But prior to request I have to know chipset (RD790+SB600) revision numbers of your main board. Could you tell me please, what revision numbers does your chipset have?

To determine a revision number both RD790 northbridge and SB600 southbridge you can use any software that is capable of reading PCI configuration space, e.g. WPCREDIT, etc.

The RD790 host bridge can be found at Bus:0, Device:0, Function:0 and the SB600 I/O hub at Bus:0, Device:20, Function:0. Register 08h contains ASIC Revision.

Would EVEREST have this infomation ?, as I have that installed.

My current suspects are GPU/VRAM or Drivers, I think its highly unlikely that these symtoms could be caused by chipset.

[Aussie FX]

Thanks VVJ for the bios, I will try it today. I'm still using F1.

Does anyone know from where AMD Overdrive derives it's cpu temps?

[VVJ]

Would EVEREST have this infomation ?, as I have that installed.

Sorry, I don't know. I prefer to use SiSoft Sandra.

[Aussie FX]

Using the new bios now. It appears there are 2 auto options for boosting ram and vga performance. I'm not sure what they do yet, just had a quick glance to see what they were.
One thing I do like is it has boosted my hsf fan speed by at least 1000rpm. I'm using a 6000+ hsf and previously could only get it to run at 3500rpm max. I'm now getting 4500rpm @40c temps.

[mAJORD]

Hi Aussie, I sure have.

430HTT

2000 hypertransport speed, all stable

[VVJ]

Aussie FX
Oh, good news! Thanks for the feedback! If a new version of BIOS update is available, I will notify ASAP.

[Aussie FX]

mAJORD I could only get to 428 HTT. That was without raising any voltages though. - Got to hate it don't you...

VVJ having no problems so far.
Nice and stable, but would love some more ram voltage for my D9's

[Boschwanza]

@VVJ ..

is there a list of Bugs which have been fixed? Or do you have this errata document already? Comes that new bios with that tlb errata fix ?

[Lightman]

Lightman, any time!

Well, I can request RD790 Revision Errata document to find any mention about your issue. But prior to request I have to know chipset (RD790+SB600) revision numbers of your main board. Could you tell me please, what revision numbers does your chipset have?

To determine a revision number both RD790 northbridge and SB600 southbridge you can use any software that is capable of reading PCI configuration space, e.g. WPCREDIT, etc.

The RD790 host bridge can be found at Bus:0, Device:0, Function:0 and the SB600 I/O hub at Bus:0, Device:20, Function:0. Register 08h contains ASIC Revision.

Hey VVJ!


Yesterday I was quite busy, but I managed to check CF under XP x64 and there everything was fine!
So it looks like Vista x32 driver support is weak at the moment, besides I was using Beta Cat7.11....

Anyway I will dig that info for you!


PS. CF under XP on those cards is lovely! OCing so easy and cards so stable and quiet!

PS.2. Phenom in U.K. store (8 in stock right now)

[VVJ]

Lightman, what beta version of Catalyst 7.11 did you use? Mine has internal version number of Vista_8.44RC2_071107a-055554E.

[S1nn3r]

Ok so Im more and more thinking this video issue is drivers so thats on the backburner for now as i did get 3dmark to do a few runs just fine with the -nosysteminfo command option added. Will test with more actual games as well..

However on the CPU/Mem front I am getting some strange results with some quick SP2004 OTHROS runs @ stock everything on my Mushkin 6400s.

Small = Pass after 1h 30 Mins or so
Large = Pass after 1h 30 Mins or so
Blend = Fail after 10 seconds to one minute or so

Have bumped voltage up to +0.15 via bios and am redoing Blend. This memory is rated from 1.9V - 2.1V so Im hopeing its just greedy for volts at stock and needs 1.9+ all the time ... we shall see, if it passes after a few hours at 1.95v on blend ill redo the other tests to for a few hours again.

[Lightman]

Lightman, what beta version of Catalyst 7.11 did you use? Mine has internal version number of Vista_8.44RC2_071107a-055554E.

Driver Packaging Version 8.43.1.1-071115a-055589E-ATI
Direct3D Version 7.14.10.0540
OpenGL Version 6.14.10.7057
Catalyst® Control Center Version 2007.1115.1713.30708

[S1nn3r]

Blend failed again, this time with the windows "This program needs to shut down" error, lasted 3+ hours however before this happened and it didnt take the rest of the system with it when it crashed(i.e no reboot needed) this was at 1.95v. Since blend tests boath the CPU and RAM a little im gonna try completely separate stress tests for eatch again, Small FTTs on SP2004 for CPU and DOS Memtest for Memory..

Been about a year+ since i last did any of this stuff .. so anyone have any suggestions ?

[S1nn3r]

Small FTTs failed .. or rather caused windows to spaz out with the "this program needs to close after 5hrs 40mins but only after i hit the stop button.

Will do a long Memtest+ run later today.

Note that the ony thing not stock as of now is the VRAM voltage @ 1.95v.

Could use some input here as ive never had a system fall over dureing a good thrashing (stress testing) at stock before ..

[Aussie FX]

If your ram is rated for 2.1v, then give it 2.1.
If you are passing small/large fft then your cpu is fine.
Blend is what usually crashes ram so I'm sure that's where the problem lies.

[mAJORD]

My Phenom 9500 is ready for pickup!! te he he

I could be up benching all night, but sorry folks I've been up since 4:30am and they're 40mins drive away

Shall pick her up in the mornnnning. Going to be a busy weekend

[S1nn3r]

If your ram is rated for 2.1v, then give it 2.1.
If you are passing small/large fft then your cpu is fine.
Blend is what usually crashes ram so I'm sure that's where the problem lies.

Small FFT did sort of fail though .. after 5 hours mind you and only after id hit Stop to stop the test, then the SP2004 process stopped responding.

Am finding it rather difficult also to judge CPU temp on this setup what with the on die temps for core 1/2 being so out of wack and all, Easytune says 35 - 37 degC at load ...

The memory i have is this - http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/...ail.asp?id=350

Which reminds me, since im feeling pretty noobish at the moment(lack of sleep amongst other things heh) and as Gigabyte seems to give diffrent names to things what would the 4-4-3-10 timeings correspond to in Gigabyte bios land ?

[Lightman]

My Phenom 9500 is ready for pickup!! te he he

I could be up benching all night, but sorry folks I've been up since 4:30am and they're 40mins drive away

Shall pick her up in the mornnnning. Going to be a busy weekend

Finally!

Phenom in reliable hands!!

Can't wait....


@S1nn3r:
I found that 1T setting is somehow unstable over 450MHz RAM for me. It's working fine in Windows and even games, but it's giving random hangups and errors for no reason 1 or 2 times a day....

If you're using it, try 2T instead...

[S1nn3r]

Finally!

Phenom in reliable hands!!

Can't wait....


@S1nn3r:
I found that 1T setting is somehow unstable over 450MHz RAM for me. It's working fine in Windows and even games, but it's giving random hangups and errors for no reason 1 or 2 times a day....

If you're using it, try 2T instead...

Already at 2T .. :/

[Aussie FX]

Small FFT did sort of fail though .. after 5 hours mind you and only after id hit Stop to stop the test, then the SP2004 process stopped responding.

Am finding it rather difficult also to judge CPU temp on this setup what with the on die temps for core 1/2 being so out of wack and all, Easytune says 35 - 37 degC at load ...

The memory i have is this - http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/...ail.asp?id=350

Which reminds me, since im feeling pretty noobish at the moment(lack of sleep amongst other things heh) and as Gigabyte seems to give diffrent names to things what would the 4-4-3-10 timeings correspond to in Gigabyte bios land ?

Orthos/prime always say fail when you stop it manually.
Ram timings are always the same. Cas latency, Ras to Cas delay, Ras precharge, and Cycle time.
What cpu are you using?

@mAJORD

[S1nn3r]

Orthos/prime always say fail when you stop it manually.
Ram timings are always the same. Cas latency, Ras to Cas delay, Ras precharge, and Cycle time.
What cpu are you using?

@mAJORD

Just to clarify it doesnt state that it failed in the Orthos window when i Stopped it running Small FFTs it caused Orthos to stop responding and had to be force quit from task manager.

Processor is 5000+ BE.

Think it may be worth setting the timings to the recommend settings(prehaps setting 1t as well) and cranking the vdimm to 2.1 and see what happens ?

[speedlimiter]

Small FFT did sort of fail though .. after 5 hours mind you and only after id hit Stop to stop the test, then the SP2004 process stopped responding.

Am finding it rather difficult also to judge CPU temp on this setup what with the on die temps for core 1/2 being so out of wack and all, Easytune says 35 - 37 degC at load ...

The memory i have is this - http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/...ail.asp?id=350

Which reminds me, since im feeling pretty noobish at the moment(lack of sleep amongst other things heh) and as Gigabyte seems to give diffrent names to things what would the 4-4-3-10 timeings correspond to in Gigabyte bios land ?

Turn of the AutoExpress function for the memory in the BIOS. It's not working properly with the BIOS F2C-L.

Also the TRAS problem has to be fixed, Gigabyte Taiwan is working on it.

[S1nn3r]

Bad news people, i cant seem to get this thing to run Blend stable at all, setting memory to 2.1v and at the 4-4-3-10 timeings at 1t or 2t ends in failure after 5 minutes or less.

[Aussie FX]

Bad news people, i cant seem to get this thing to run Blend stable at all, setting memory to 2.1v and at the 4-4-3-10 timeings at 1t or 2t ends in failure after 5 minutes or less.

I'd forgotten about the tras issue, it's stuck on 18 or something IIRC.

I would try running everything on auto and see what happens.
If you have a failure try 1 stick of ram.
Also make sure you use 2T ATM.

[S1nn3r]

I'd forgotten about the tras issue, it's stuck on 18 or something IIRC.

I would try running everything on auto and see what happens.
If you have a failure try 1 stick of ram.
Also make sure you use 2T ATM.

Ive already tryed everything on auto, will try one stick today .. and if that fails well i dont know what else to try heh.