Gigabyte MA790FX DQ6

[v0dka]

Sounds like you need a new BIOS. That can make a lot of difference for certain types of memory.

Dont you have any other RAM lying around?

[mAJORD]

I tell ya, it's kind of surreal after all this time actually seeing Phenom on that heatspreader.. after all these years of "Athlon"

Anyway, this board is giving me the s, I can't drag the ram down from 1066 so i'm going to run into RAM OC problems real soon must fix issue.

Currently priming @ 2.5 on stk vlts stock crapola HS. Surprisingly cool given the poor cooling and stinking hot ambients here in Queensland

I think i'm running into issue allready though, maybe with this RAM, It's been prime stable (small FFT) for 10mins or so, so far + cinebench 4core + nuclearus (11500 score btw @2.5 ) BUT can't even run a 1M superpi anymore, not exact in round by 1 or 2 loops

[Aussie FX]

I tell ya, it's kind of surreal after all this time actually seeing Phenom on that heatspreader.. after all these years of "Athlon"

Anyway, this board is giving me the s, I can't drag the ram down from 1066 so i'm going to run into RAM OC problems real soon must fix issue.

Currently priming @ 2.5 on stk vlts stock crapola HS. Surprisingly cool given the poor cooling and stinking hot ambients here in Queensland

I think i'm running into issue allready though, maybe with this RAM, It's been prime stable (small FFT) for 10mins or so, so far + cinebench 4core + nuclearus (11500 score btw @2.5 ) BUT can't even run a 1M superpi anymore, not exact in round by 1 or 2 loops

Sounds like I need to send you my ram

You reckon the ambients are hot there. It's been 46 here today in the WA northern wheatbelt. The temp in the room here ATM is 34 and it's 9 PM, my 6400 is idling at 52

What type of hsf did you get? Is it DC Opteron/6000+ type? Or the basic lump of aluminium?

Are you using F2L bios?

[mAJORD]

BAsic clump of aluminium

can't belive they actually shipped with these Heatsinks..

Anyway, yeah i'm using F2L, it's stable except for this issue. The problem with pi running only occurs when the bios save 'crashes' i.e it locks up when you hit Y to save.

When you reset, it commits the changes, but pi is unstable.

I went back into bios and mucked with RAM a little + set it to Ganged, it saved fine, and pi was now fine.

Went back in, fiddled, saved, and it crashed on save again + pi failure is now back. Must have something to do with mem controller settings not commiting properly or something.

Hope to get it sorted by tommorow, or my DICE will melt!

[Aussie FX]

Bios crashing? Can't say I've seen that before.

Touch wood my motherboard has been stable so far, the only problems I've had are with AMD Overdrive, which apparently Gigbyte don't support yet.

I should be able to collaborate by mid next week.

[S1nn3r]

Well Im begining to think my RAM is cursed, just cant get it to run Blend stable, failed in 2 hrs 5 mins today after I updated bios to the HL one posted earlyer. So its gone from failing in 20 seconds, to failing in 5 minutes to 3 hrs 40min then back to 2 hrs 5 min so far with the tweaking ive been doing this last 2 days. And all this with no overclocking being done nor anything running "out of spec".

[S1nn3r]

Sounds like you need a new BIOS. That can make a lot of difference for certain types of memory.

Dont you have any other RAM lying around?

I dont have any other DDR2 Kits laying around, nor do I have another AM2 Procesor to try ether.

As it stands at the moment I may try and find(buy) another DDR2 kit to try as i am fast running out of options and patience. So what are you people useing on these boards that have them working well ?

[S1nn3r]

Tryed one stick and also on a longshot put said single stick in the Yellow DIMM bank instead of the Red one, Blend failed after 30 seconds at same settings as post above ..

I have no way of borrowing a AM2 CPU or a nice 2GB DDR2 Kit localy to do further "process of elimination" testing hardware wise. So i am stuck... unless i want to shell out more money for one of those two items in the hope that it fixes things .. cant afford to go off buying another CPU and DDR2 kit.

[BadNizze]

I take back all bad I said about this mobo, when I disable "auotoexpress" It flys Only problem know is the lack of v-dimm...

S1nn3r: Try 2,1v with fan over and maybe go back to F1 bios, I´m jusing f2i bios and it works like a charm.

mAJORD: Could we get some screens of youre Phenom? And stepping please! We need to start a database for Phenom steppings also Getting my Phenom bext week, maybe two if all goes well
Lightman: Nice cg setup there! Have toy tryed the new bios for youre cards yet?


Quick SuperPI 1mb test with new kit of ballistix @ 2,42v


Everest


24/7 Setting

Did tight up my tras to 10 and trc to 11. V-core lowerd to 1,424

[v0dka]

LOL.. autoexpress?

[BadNizze]

LOL.. autoexpress?

That must have been my worst spelling ever! Lack of you know...

[S1nn3r]

So im guessing from the lack of response to my last few posts that my best option is to pick up another mem kit ?

[Lightman]

Hey guys!

Nice news from you mAJORD!
But I also would like to see some pictures and screens !

BadNizzle: Impressive memory clocks!!! I want them in my RIG

Regarding my CF I'm a bit struggling with this setup right now ...
I have sudden switch downs of my rig when doing CF tests! I'm looking for a cause, but so far I eliminated HD3870 cards, they fine in single mode, my CPU is out of equation as well. That leaves me to mainboard and PSU as to most likely suspects. Tried hooking up PCIe power connections to another PSU, but still same switch downs. I will try another PSU tomorrow, but this is killing me

I can bench CF at stock, but even then sometimes it will cut the power. When OCed to 877/2600 I'm struggling to open 3DMark06!! In best case it will sometimes finish first run ....

PS. As you probably already noticed I flashed both cards and they are fully stable at 877 and 892MHz respectively

S1nn3r: Sorry to hear that you still struggling... I'm now having a small fight as well
My only advice is to get another CPU and/or memory to test them out... Otherwise you mobo might be faulty.... (or incompatible with RAM)

[mAJORD]

They're comin lightman, it's a struggle OCing with flakey bios.


some BAD news though, at least on this F2L.

Throw a Phenom in and suddenly the only CPU voltage adjustments are

+0.025v
+0.05v
+0.75v
+0.1v

[BadNizze]

Hey guys!

Nice news from you mAJORD!
But I also would like to see some pictures and screens !

BadNizzle: Impressive memory clocks!!! I want them in my RIG

Regarding my CF I'm a bit struggling with this setup right now ...
I have sudden switch downs of my rig when doing CF tests! I'm looking for a cause, but so far I eliminated HD3870 cards, they fine in single mode, my CPU is out of equation as well. That leaves me to mainboard and PSU as to most likely suspects. Tried hooking up PCIe power connections to another PSU, but still same switch downs. I will try another PSU tomorrow, but this is killing me

I can bench CF at stock, but even then sometimes it will cut the power. When OCed to 877/2600 I'm struggling to open 3DMark06!! In best case it will sometimes finish first run ....

PS. As you probably already noticed I flashed both cards and they are fully stable at 877 and 892MHz respectively

S1nn3r: Sorry to hear that you still struggling... I'm now having a small fight as well
My only advice is to get another CPU and/or memory to test them out... Otherwise you mobo might be faulty.... (or incompatible with RAM)

Thanks ha alot of fun playing with my ram today, ballistix are dirt cheap her to 120-130USD will try CL 3 tomorrow if I have time over.

Abought youre switch downs... Mayby 3870 in CF + Youre 3500mhz K8 is to much for youre toppower PSU... Had simlary issues with my Corasir HX 620w a wile back. Great psu, but i did not like my bulids, works fine in an other rig thoug... Now i have a Seventeam 650 wich is very stabile, One reboot after 4 staright days of prime Don´t even think it was my PSU that gave up, problably my mobo.

[speedlimiter]

I take back all bad I said about this mobo, when I disable "auotoexpress" It flys

So im guessing from the lack of response to my last few posts that my best option is to pick up another mem kit ?

Have you tried to disable the AutoExpress "feature"?

[Lightman]

They're comin lightman, it's a struggle OCing with flakey bios.


some BAD news though, at least on this F2L.

Throw a Phenom in and suddenly the only CPU voltage adjustments are

+0.025v
+0.05v
+0.75v
+0.1v

Thanks!

PS. Yes, I know BIOS could be better ....

Thanks ha alot of fun playing with my ram today, ballistix are dirt cheap her to 120-130USD will try CL 3 tomorrow if I have time over.

Abought youre switch downs... Mayby 3870 in CF + Youre 3500mhz K8 is to much for youre toppower PSU... Had simlary issues with my Corasir HX 620w a wile back. Great psu, but i did not like my bulids, works fine in an other rig thoug... Now i have a Seventeam 650 wich is very stabile, One reboot after 4 staright days of prime Don´t even think it was my PSU that gave up, problably my mobo.

Yeah! I think this is my PSU because when my CPU is @3315MHz 1.35V then I can push cards up to 860 core stable, when I change memory to 2600MHz then it's bad! On the other hand with CPU at 3500MHz 1.5V even stocks cards can cause a switch down... On a PSU sticker it says 18A max on each rail.... That might be a problem here
My wife will kill me if I order another new part this month .... but it's worth the risk

[S1nn3r]

Ok so it looks like im in for a new/ CPU or Mem Kit, which is most likely to work given what ive been experiencing so far ? I can only replace one of these items due to money.. or lack thereof.

Have you tried to disable the AutoExpress "feature"?

Yes I have.

[Aussie FX]

What ram are you using?
Sorry if I have already asked (I'm old)
I'm almost certain it's not a cpu.

[Aussie FX]

Hey guys!

Nice news from you mAJORD!
But I also would like to see some pictures and screens !

BadNizzle: Impressive memory clocks!!! I want them in my RIG

Regarding my CF I'm a bit struggling with this setup right now ...
I have sudden switch downs of my rig when doing CF tests! I'm looking for a cause, but so far I eliminated HD3870 cards, they fine in single mode, my CPU is out of equation as well. That leaves me to mainboard and PSU as to most likely suspects. Tried hooking up PCIe power connections to another PSU, but still same switch downs. I will try another PSU tomorrow, but this is killing me

I can bench CF at stock, but even then sometimes it will cut the power. When OCed to 877/2600 I'm struggling to open 3DMark06!! In best case it will sometimes finish first run ....

PS. As you probably already noticed I flashed both cards and they are fully stable at 877 and 892MHz respectively

S1nn3r: Sorry to hear that you still struggling... I'm now having a small fight as well
My only advice is to get another CPU and/or memory to test them out... Otherwise you mobo might be faulty.... (or incompatible with RAM)

Lightman that is almost certainly your psu.
I was running an Opty 170 @ 2850 with 2 7900GT's (evga superclock) and my psu at the time (Antec neo-he 550) was flakey. And that was a solid psu IMO. Replaced it with my OCZ gamex700 and all issues disappeared.

Can you try hooking up that 2nd psu you have to just the vga cards?

I haven't got any figures but I've read at a few places that overclocking a cpu uses a disproportionate amount of power.

@mAJORD, have you tried going back to the F1 bios?
I found mine to be very stable, just missing too many goodies.

[mAJORD]

nah not yet Ausse, A certain idiot has used my waterblock/DICE block mounting bracket for repairing a lawnmower and also lost the screws.

I can't find anything else and the shops are shut.

I would like to jam DICE down their neck but It might kill them.

[BadNizze]

nah not yet Ausse, A certain idiot has used my waterblock/DICE block mounting bracket for repairing a lawnmower and also lost the screws.

I can't find anything else and the shops are shut.

I would like to jam DICE down their neck but It might kill them.

Reapairing a lawnmower

[Aussie FX]

I would like to jam DICE down their neck but It might kill them.

You may as well, it won't last long in this heat

I reckon there might be one unpopular little brother in your household

Oh well now you will just have to sit back and watch the election

Sorry mate, I couldn't resist...

Hey mAJORD, I just found this on THG.
http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/11/...web/page9.html
Look at the photo of the bios and they're using bios F2i with the Gigabyte board and it's showing ram running at 800mhz.
They are using es chips, if that makes any difference. BTW what's your stepping?

[Lightman]

Lightman that is almost certainly your psu.
I was running an Opty 170 @ 2850 with 2 7900GT's (evga superclock) and my psu at the time (Antec neo-he 550) was flakey. And that was a solid psu IMO. Replaced it with my OCZ gamex700 and all issues disappeared.

Can you try hooking up that 2nd psu you have to just the vga cards?

I haven't got any figures but I've read at a few places that overclocking a cpu uses a disproportionate amount of power.

@mAJORD, have you tried going back to the F1 bios?
I found mine to be very stable, just missing too many goodies.

I did that 2 days ago... Same thing...
Problem is that this PSU was powering 2xHD2900PRO@XT without too much of issues (except when oced I had same shut downs). It was pulling 630W from a wall easily, but now it's shutting down even around 400W. This, if anything to do with PSU, must be rail over-current protection. I presume that CPU plus primary PCIe slots are feed from ATX24+4 connectors and that is one rail...

To rule this out I will put Antec 500W into my rig and give it a go... Or I will try to hook up every single connector from 3 different PSUs


Update:
Problem solved! PSU!!
When I connected ATX 24pin from another PSU everything is stable like it should!

Some proof:

This is new AMD single socket WR!

[S1nn3r]

What ram are you using?
Sorry if I have already asked (I'm old)
I'm almost certain it's not a cpu.

Memory is the 2x1GB Kit of this - http://www.mushkin.com/doc/products/...ail.asp?id=350