Watersystem for Q6600B3 & 2x8800Ultras & Striker Extreme

[disruptfam]

If money is not an issue, you ought to do three loops:

(1) Res -> Pump -> Pump -> PA120.3 -> Cpu -> Res
(2) Res -> Pump -> Pump -> PA120.3 - Gpu -> Gpu -> Res
(3) Res -> Pump -> Rad -> NB -> SB -> Mosfets -> Res


You need to look at the 18W version of this pump. Place two in series for extra head pressure and superb flow.
http://www.petrastechshop.com/laddcwpeddto.html

That Eheim pump is a weakling that will not do.

Alternatively, this is another pump to consider:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/swmcin12pu.html

If you really want the best, I would highly recommend the Iwaki RD-30
http://www.petrastechshop.com/iwrd24vdcinp.html
But you would need a 24V power supply.

3 loops ftw!!!!

i got my b3 in it's own loop,my gtx in it's own loop and nb,sb and vrm's in it's own loop

[SafeFire]

Hey.
Not that I'm the biggest water cooling Guru (Yet *Snicker*) But isn't it going to be a pain in the back do an external Dual Loop system?
I suppose one could drill some extra holes to get the rads etc outside the case, but having 4 to 6 1/2" tubes running out a case might get a complicated in my eyes.

[Akuma2000]

Hey SafeFire,

I'm NOT going to do External anymore, see my previous posts.

I'm going to purchase a MM case and build everything internal

I think I'm going to do the loop Iany suggested:
(1) Res -> Pump -> Pump -> PA120.3 -> Cpu -> Res
(2) Res -> Pump -> Pump -> PA120.3 - Gpu -> Gpu -> Res
(3) Res -> Pump -> Rad -> NB -> SB -> Mosfets -> Res

Is it neccesary to watercool the RAM's too?
(I'm going to buy the G.Skill 4GB (2x2GB PC8000).

[ls206]

Mem cooling isn't necessary, but it does look cool! Just aim a fan at the RAM if you're going to up the voltage above stock.

About what to put on each loop, check out these test results:
http://www.thermochill.com/PATesting/index.php

and see which RAD can take the loads best.

man...wish I had the bucks to blow

[Akuma2000]

Ok thank you all.

I almost figured it out now.

Just still doubting to do 2 or 3 loops.
Because the MM case costs a lot of money, gotta be carefull I do not spend too much :P

If I choose to do 2 loops, which loop below do you guys think it's better?

Loop 1:
Pump > Rad 120.3 > CPU > NB > Mosfets1 > Mosfets2 (> RAM) > Res
Loop 2:
Pump > Rad 120.2 > VGA1 > VGA2 > SB > Res

Or

Loop 1:
Pump > Rad 120.3 > CPU > VGA1 > VGA2 > Res
Loop 2:
Pump > Rad 120.2 > NB > Mosfet1 > Mosfet2 (> RAM) > SB > Res

[ls206]

Hmm...It does depend on what fans you'll be using on the RADs...
I would say
PA120.3 for the SLI Ultras (and maybe something else, but not CPU)
the rest on the PA120.2

[Akuma2000]

Hmmm... Still doubting what to do...

2 loops.. 3 loops... sort of loops... damn

I hope some "pro" here comes to me and just tells me exactly what to do and to stop whining :P

Anyway, just came home from work and went to the computershop, because my Asus Striker Extreme has arrived









I have the 1.00g revision, not the 1.03 Should I go back for a refund??? :P
The BIOS chip is not "poppable", so I guess this is the newer revision of the 1.00g


Anyway, I can't wait to order the watercooling stuff + MM case, so I can get it going!!!

[_Slim_Shady_]

I think the revision number on the Striker says 1.00g no matter what. The difference is whether it was made in Taiwan or China. I think I read that here on the forums...?

I think you'll be happy with the MM case. I wish I would have went that way from the start. Something to consider is getting a custom front panel for $40 more. That's what I'm going to do so I can mount a PA120.3 and PA120.2 up front in an "L" shape with the 120.3 horizontal on the bottom, and the 120.2 vertical. I'm working on doing a Google Sketchup model now. That way you get fresh cold air coming in on both rads. Otherwise, if you put the 120.2 in the back you will be pulling air from two directions. I don't think that will be very efficient. Just a thought...

[Leeghoofd]

Where are you going to order the MM case? the Uk ? and indeed the board with the fixed bios is the so called lattest revision (though still 1.00G on the PCB)

[Akuma2000]

Mine is made in China, I read that is the newer revision.
So I'm going to keep this one.

Next week, I'm going to the bookshop and buy a B4 pencil, to do the vdroop mod

I wish I did this too a few month ago.
It would have saved me a lot of money.
Now I'm stuck with a Coolermaster Mystique 632Case, 4GB Chaintech mem, and a Zalman 9700 Cooler. :P

I think I'm going for the MM Duality front with a Horizon back.
That way I can put 2 120.3's rads in it and optional 1 120.2 rad

The air will be sucked away on the top.

Anyway, what loop should I do?
More suggestions I can choose from?
I'm still doubting about that.

I will use 3 fans for each 120.3 and if there is space left, I'll use 6 per rad!


edit:
@ Leeghoofd
Don't know which BIOS it is.
I won't be using the Striker, untill everything has arrived (from watercooling till case).

And I'll order directly from the US I guess, because UK hasn't got any stock.

[mjassbong]

Mine is made in China, I read that is the newer revision.
So I'm going to keep this one.

Next week, I'm going to the bookshop and buy a B4 pencil, to do the vdroop mod

I wish I did this too a few month ago.
It would have saved me a lot of money.
Now I'm stuck with a Coolermaster Mystique 632Case, 4GB Chaintech mem, and a Zalman 9700 Cooler. :P

I think I'm going for the MM Duality front with a Horizon back.
That way I can put 2 120.3's rads in it and optional 1 120.2 rad

The air will be sucked away on the top.

Anyway, what loop should I do?
More suggestions I can choose from?
I'm still doubting about that.

I will use 3 fans for each 120.3 and if there is space left, I'll use 6 per rad!


edit:
@ Leeghoofd
Don't know which BIOS it is.
I won't be using the Striker, untill everything has arrived (from watercooling till case).

And I'll order directly from the US I guess, because UK hasn't got any stock.

If you can fit and afford 3 loops/3 rads, then I'd go what Iany suggested, which is almost exactly as my loops but with a single pump in each.

(1) Res -> Pump -> PA120.3 -> Cpu -> Res
(2) Res -> Pump -> PA120.3 - Gpu1 -> Gpu2 -> Res
(3) Res -> Pump -> Pa120.2 -> NB -> SB -> Mosfets -> RAM -> Res

[IanY]

Can you wait a few weeks?

Return the Striker Extreme. The Asus 780i mobo should be out in a few weeks. The Striker Extreme is getting a little old.

Yes, you will find 1.00g revisions in Europe and the US. To get the 1.03g, your mobo must be manufactured in China (I see that your mobo is manufactured in China, which is unusual for the Euro market, but yours is still a 1.00g) and the mobo is distributed only in limited East Asian markets, including China itself.

Speaking to me can get expensive lol One fine day, I'll find the time and space to do something ridiculous like Res->Pump->Pump->Rad->Cpu->Pump->Rad->Res hahaha

[Akuma2000]

I've thought about the 780i, but I'm going to keep my Striker 680i.

Because, if I wait, I want DDR3, I want 150GB Raptors, I want 8GB of mem, etc. etc. etc.

It keeps on going :P

I set a limit to myself, so I'm going to use this setup for about 2 years or longer (I hope )


Update
I've just ordered and paid the MM case, with 12 fans!
It's going to be the U2-UFO Horizon with a Duality Front.

So this is for certain:
- U2-UFO Horizon + Duality Front
- 2 Thermochill 120.3
- 1 Thermochill 120.2
- CPU Block: D-Tek Fuzion
- VGA Blocks: 2 x EK-FC8800GTX
- MOBO Blocks: EK Striker Extreme Set

uncertain:
- Pump: 3 x Laing/swiftec DCC??
- Res: 3 x Swiftech MCRES-Micro AGB???
- Tubes: Tygon R3603 ???
- Liquid: AT-Protect-UV-Blue???
- Did I forgot something?

Could you guys please advise which pomps I should use for the 3 loops?
(please specify modelnumber)
And also resevoirs, which fits the MM case.
And what tubes and liquid?

When I have confirmed everything, I'll sent this order to several firms.
I'm looking forward to see which firm can give me the best offer and will have my order

[Akuma2000]

Anyone?

Some last idea's / suggestions, before I place my order?

[IanY]

You forgot the very important component... the brand/model/quantity/operating voltage of the fans...

[Akuma2000]

I already ordered those at MM:
YATE LOON 120mm Case Fan - D12SL-124B
http://www.mountainmods.com/yate-loo...24b-p-426.html

I ordered 12 of those.
6 intake in front for the Thermochill 120.3
2 outtake on Top of the case
2 outtake or intake in back for the Thermochill 120.2
1 outtake or intake in back
1 reserve

@ home I got a few more 12CM Recom Fans. Don't know the model/voltage of those.

Hope these are good enough!

Update Sunday 11-11-2007:
I'm going to do 2 loops instead of 3.
Money IS an issue now (because of the MM case, which was a lot more expensive than I had expected).
If I'm going to do 3 loops, my watercooling setup will be more than 1000 euro's.
That's too much, because I also still have to buy a birthday present for my girlfriend -_-

So 2 loops it is.

Watercooling setup will be this:
- 2 x Thermochill 120.3
- 6 x YATE LOON 120mm Case Fan - D12SL-124B for rad's
- 1 x Zalman Multi Fan Speed Controller ZM-MFC1 (for the 6 fans on rad's)
- 2 x Laing DDC-1RT Plus (12V / 18W)
- 1 x D-Tek Fuzion
- 2 x EK-FC8800GTX
- 1 x EK Striker Extreme Set
- 2 x Swiftech MCRES-Micro AGB


uncertain:
- Tubes: Tygon R3603 ???
- Liquid: AT-Protect-UV-Blue???
- Did I forgot something?


And the loops is going to be:
Loop 1:
Pump > Rad 120.3 > CPU > NB > Mosfets1 > Mosfets2 > Res

Loop 2:
Pump > Rad 120.3 > VGA1 > VGA2 > SB > Res

Any suggestions by you guys?

[Akuma2000]

update, I've edited my previous post

[disruptfam]

awesome!!! can't wait for pic's!!!

[joecop120]

I don't think anyone has mentioned this, but stay away from 8/6mm tubing and G1/8" fittings.

[IanY]

Man.. you shouldn't have ordered the Yate Loon SLs from Mountain Mods. You should have bought them from Petra's. There is a huge difference. The fans are wildly different in terms of performance. Curved blades vs.straight blades. They havebeen tested numerous times by experts here, including Vapor. Wish you would slow down and ask first.

[Borgod]

I fired up my 6 yateloons SL's I fitted to my new dual-thermochill, dual-DDC loop lastnight for an evga 680i with them brought down to 7v each and I am loving these fans. I have spent plenty on nexus, scythe etc and the YL's are supurb considering the extra cfm they output.

[Akuma2000]

Oh crap.

Didn't know that IanY, I thought I was ready to go.
Maybe I'll buy those from Petra's later, and put it on the back on the radiators.
So I'll have 6 fans per rad, or is that overkill?

@ Joecop
I was advised to take Tygon 11/8 tubing.
So I will do that.

Haven't ordered my watercooling yet though... the shops are slow making orders..

[Akuma2000]

Oh yeah, another thing.

How should I setup my airflow?

The 6 fans on the Rad's in front of the case:
Intake or Outtake?

If outtake, then the 2 fans on top and rear can be intake.
So the front doesn't need dustfilters (just fan grills) which looks more nice

[Jedda]

Well at least MM have reduced their Y-L fans from $9 to $5.50. Same ballpark for the UV Y-L fans from PTS

Always the issue with case mounted rads. Is it better to get cool air to the rad or not dump hot air into the case? Seems to be different balance with each design. Ask a MM user, or read through their build threads. You'll get heaps from doing that.

[Marci]

If you have the 6 rad fans as outlets, they'll suffer restricted airflow... there are less fans feeding them. They can only move the air presented to them, which will be warmer chassis air. Better performance to have radiator fans as inlets and all others as outlets.

Consider dust buildup - clean rads regularly (as they'll be the main intakes). Bear in mind you may see increased internal case temps... The only real downside with MM enclosures is getting a balanced airflow as there are never enough outlets to balance the inlets... and if one were to add them, the case'd be nothing but blowholes (I did a sketchup of a duality with 6x 120mm outlets - it looked ridiculous).