Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX
you can go into msconfig and check off "no GUI" boot...that will shorten the boot time.
the other thought is a driver taking its time to load.
you can go into msconfig and check off "no GUI" boot...that will shorten the boot time.
the other thought is a driver taking its time to load.
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IP35 Pro: 9650@4000Mhz, par overclocker; Freezone Elite; 4Gb GSkill DDR-800@DDR-1068 (2 x 2gb); XFX 8800 GTS; Areca 8X PCIe in Raid 0 working at 4x speed; 4-250 Gb (single platter) 7200.10 drives; Giga 3DAurora case with side window.
Its a bare Vista install I always trash installs with hardware swaps
Will see what else I got kickin around in there.....anyone got problems with enabled onboard audio+LAN And this sort of issue?
EDIT: Maximus on 0505 at same settings compared to my P5K Premium is showing some impressive performance gains from an everest standpoint at least
so should i enable it?? or not? some one told me if disable it i will get better temps...
The better temps come from the actual applied voltage being lower....
In theory say you set 1.5v after windows load and load on processor it goes to 1.4v yes its going to be cooler, but no its not giving the right voltage.
With it on theoretically 1.5v should stay 1.5v or as near to that as possible.
So keep loadline enabled, whoever told you to disable it is mistaken since you dont want differences(at least that much) from BIOS set voltage to actual windows and usage load voltage.
using the same settings on my bios, and it is not stableThese settings are 24/7 rock solid. 12hour SmallFFT, 12hour LargeFFT - then ran ram through Memtest86+ for 8hrs and its running a 24 hour Blend @priority 9 right now.
BIOS 0505
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency :450
FSB Strap to North Bridge :AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 120
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-900
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 4
RAS# Precharge : 4
RAS# ActivateTime : 10
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 25
Write Recovery Time : 3
Read to Precharge Time : 3
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 7
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
Ai Clock Twister : STRONG
Transaction Booster : ENABLED (2)
CPU Voltage : 1.4250v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.6v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49v
DRAM Voltage : 2.18v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.4v
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : .63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Also have 500x7 DDR2 1000/1250 4-4-4-10/5-5-5-15 working as well and stable.
500x7 takes 1.45v and a slight increase on the NB/FSB voltages and ram takes 2.28v for DDR2 1250 stable at 5-5-5-15 with some pretty good subtimings. I got some screenies goin up soon as blend finishes for 450x8.
Done nothing with 400x9 with DDR2 800 or 1000 but I would imagine its all the same, I like higher FSB's more
A little test
Heres the difference between tweaked subtimings and AUTO
The subtimings I have been using 7-3-5-4-6-4-6 have been great, real stable as well according to blend and memtest. I will be trying to lower the values some more in the coming days.
-Cheerswhen ever i run prime 95 it will just freeze
You dont have my ram, or my chipusing the same settings on my bios, and it is not stable
That 1066 stuff you are using probably cant use those subtimings, might come close but nothing at those voltages. And I have a beast of a G0 quad so only use my settings as a reference not verbatim unless you have similar equipment.
On that note heres the fruits of my labor, the following stuff is 24/7 stable.
Everest test was run 2x just for consistency sake.
And heres quick comparison (sans the Maximus's subtiming control, and ability to use higher transaction booster settings. P5K premium wouldnt run Transaction well at all, so I used DRAM Static Read)
You may draw your own conclusions
Considerably better read/write and 10ns difference. I would say Maximus is clear winner
EDIT: Oh yeah heres the 1M calc
X38 - 14.359s
P35 - 14.835s
Id say thats a nice improvement.
Last edited by ChaosMinionX; 10-18-2007 at 07:35 PM.
well i atually change the ram values to :
BIOS 0505
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency :450
FSB Strap to North Bridge :AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 120
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-900
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
Ai Clock Twister : STRONG
Transaction Booster : ENABLED (2)
CPU Voltage : 1.5v
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.6v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.49v
DRAM Voltage : 2.18v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.4v
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : .63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
this is how my bios looks
Increase your NB value to 1.53v and see what she does.
is actually my ram...when ever i run the prime small test. it will run perfect. so it is my ram.... what can i do or what should i do?
Set transaction booster to 1, but keep subtimings as is....might be too tight timings.
should i get new memory?? like the same but a new pack??
Nope... it probably wont change. The difference between your memory, and my memory is about 250$ difference per 2GB kit, and alot more binning as well it was binned for CAS3 DDR2 800.
Just relax some of the settings in your bios, and tweak some voltages and keep trying it. Every rig is going to act differently.
is there any software better than core temp to measure cpu temps??
my mem should be better than your right?
No, at date of purchase my ram was about $900, the Dominator 8500's were only about $500-600 for 4GB kit and are like 2nd from bottom of the dominator lineup.
IMO 9136 and 6400C3 (and I would say my 6400C3's can hold their own against 8888's at 2.4v considering I run 1000 4-4-4-12 at 2.18v) are about on the same playing field, where 8888 and 10000 are high performance.
The binning on 6400C3DFs is alot higher than the 8500s, its considered more of a "performance" part than the 8500s are since my ram will do right up to DDR2 1100 4-4-4-12. 8500s are CAS 5 @ 1066, and my subtimings can be alot tighter given they are higher binned chips...then again in the semiconductor world its all really random from each piece even if it is meticulously binned for performance.
EDIT: Also note, they have discontinued Micron IC's on the 8500 lineup... not sure of the production cutoff date, but the newest kits will not be micron based.
Source:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/...d.php?t=158651
If you purchased those recently Miguel, check your sticker on the side of your ram...you might not have Micron if they are brand spankin new.
Last edited by ChaosMinionX; 10-18-2007 at 09:05 PM.
Thanks, that give some hope about my new WC-cooled memory. Only as last option i will trade them for 2x2GB:s.
EVGA Classified E762- i7-980X cooled by EK Supreeme HF- 12GB Corsair Dominator GT 2000- 3x 100GB OCZ vertex2 SSD@raid0- 3x Gainward GTX580 Phantom 3GB (soon)ooled by EK)- Silverstone strider ST1500 1500W- Win7 Ultimate X64- LG W3000H- X-Fi Titanium Pro -Logitech Z5500
Custom WC-cooling with Thermochill PA120.3, PA140.3, 2x Feser 480 Quadrad, Scythe GT1850rpm, Noiseblocker PK3 and Swiftech MCP355 with XSPC-tops
cant make my memory stable
You should be perfectly fine mate
@Miguel - did you set Transaction booster to 1? or even off you might not be able to run it at all.
Also try this
BIOS 0505
Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency :450
FSB Strap to North Bridge :AUTO
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-900
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 4
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 30-35 (should work)
Write Recovery Time : 4
Read to Precharge Time : 4
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
Ai Clock Twister : AUTO
Transaction Booster : AUTO
CPU Voltage : 1.5v (try going lower, run Prime95 on SmallFFT Priority 9 with round off checking to find lowest Vcore setting)
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.6v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51v
DRAM Voltage : 2.20v
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.4v
South Bridge Voltage : AUTO
Loadline Calibration : ENABLED
CPU GTL Reference : .63x
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : AUTO
SB 1.5V Voltage : AUTO
NB LED Selection : NB Volt
SB LED Selection : SB Volt
CPU LED Selection : CPU VOlt
Voltiminder LED : ENABLED
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
any questions about that feel free to ask Miguel.
After you find lowest Vcore for your CPU using SmallFFTs from Prime95---- Go ahead and mess around with RAM settings and run Memtest 86+ 1.7 and let it loop 2-3 times and see if it comes up with any red.. if not tweak a little more see if you get any and repeat till you get red. Then relax and try 1 more loop and if your happy with your current timings and voltages then go for a 12-24hr Prime95 Blend with roundoff checking.
Last edited by ChaosMinionX; 10-18-2007 at 09:19 PM.
the 8500C5D's if they are still micron, if not its a toss up between the 2 kits.
My ram is the 6400C3DF found here.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...5&Tpk=6400c3df
and yours will be alot better than what i have right now? BTW my is the new version 2.2..
Last edited by SuperMiguel; 10-18-2007 at 09:28 PM.
Some revisions of these KITs are not D9
CPU: XEON W3540 & Gulftown Q3FE
MB: Asus Rampage III Extreme
RAM: Corsair GT2000C7 2G X 3 ADATA XPG+ 2200+ 2G X 3
SSD: Adata S596 120G
Display Card: Asus EAH 5870
WaterCooling:
Laing D5 Pump + Koolance D5 Top
Radiator: KP 120.3
CPU Block: HeatKiller 3.0 + EK full MB Block
PSU: Antec TPQ 1200W OC
Case: SilverStone TJ-07BW
In short yes.....if you have the money, but cant guarantee they will run the same speeds as the 2 kits I have.
Mmmh I think my CPU isn't really good because I can't pass 460Mhz for the FSB, and I had the same problem with same CPU on the Blitz Formula ...
Is it possible for an E6850 ES to be at maximum at only 460Mhz FSB ?
Proc': Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 B3 | Duo 8500 ES
Mobo: Asus RoG: Maximus Formula Special Edition | Asus Striker II Extreme
VGA: Gainward 9800GX2 | Sparkle Calibre P880+ | Sparkle 8800GTSē | Sparkle HD3870X2
RAM: 2 Go Crucial Ballistix Tracer PC8500 | 2 Go OCZ XTC 1600 XMP | 2 GoOCZ XTC 1600
HDD: Raptor 2x74Go Raid 0 + Caviar 500Go + Samsung 250Go
I wish we had sombody from ASUS here, to speak to this......
Asus Maximus SE X38 / Lapped Q6600 G0 @ 3.8GHz (L726B397 stock VID=1.224) / 7 Ultimate x64 /EVGA GTX 295 C=650 S=1512 M=1188 (Graphics)/ EVGA GTX 280 C=756 S=1512 M=1296 (PhysX)/ G.SKILL 8GB (4 x 2GB) SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) / Gateway FPD2485W (1920 x 1200 res) / Toughpower 1,000-Watt modular PSU / SilverStone TJ-09 BW / (2) 150 GB Raptor's RAID-0 / (1) Western Digital Caviar 750 GB / LG GGC-H20L (CD, DVD, HD-DVD, and BlueRay Drive) / WaterKegIII Xtreme / D-TEK FuZion CPU, EVGA Hydro Copper 16 GPU, and EK NB S-MAX Acetal Waterblocks / Enzotech Forged Copper CNB-S1L (South Bridge heat sink)
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