Striker pwns EVGA with Q6600 G0

[GameGuru]

This is not intended to be a threadjack - but since everyone is here - I thought i would ask.
WHICH Memtest proggie is the one to use?
Memtest86 v3.3 from
http://www.memtest86.com/

or

Memtest86+ v1.7 from
http://www.memtest.org/

.......pleaes advise..............

or th

I use 3.3

Most importatant voltage for stability of Quad on Striker is SB Voltage and HT Votage ... others i have on Auto always ... and my new Quad is on 3500MHz now ... higher FSB testing in progress ...

What volts are safe for the SB and HT? I'm running at 3.6 now but my chip is capable of 4.0+. What volts are you using now at 3.5?

Thanks!

[my87csx481]

Most importatant voltage for stability of Quad on Striker is SB Voltage and HT Votage ... others i have on Auto always ... and my new Quad is on 3500MHz now ... higher FSB testing in progress ...

Yes. Please post your settings. I'm having the same trouble as Khaotic....lucky if I can get 333.3 x 9....never mind 355.5 x 9. Small fft's error very shortly and BSOD if I web browse while priming.

[GameGuru]

Yes. Please post your settings. I'm having the same trouble as Khaotic....lucky if I can get 333.3 x 9....never mind 355.5 x 9. Small fft's error very shortly and BSOD if I web browse while priming.

Hey have you tried these yet? http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=154

They seem to be the sweet spot for the quad and this board.

[Khaotic]

no, I doubt it, 99% of the time a blue screen is related to the memory, usually would just hard lock or crash without blue screen if CPU.

Do you have any other ram you can try, or have you run a memtest on that ram at stock speed to see if it is OK, it sucks to do, as you should run memtest for 8 hours, but you might find the source of your problem.

Also if your ram is D9 based micron chips you should drop your voltage to the 1.9-2.0V range in the bios, the 680i seems to be better on lower volts with D9.

Good luck, got my RMA Striker today, soldered in bios chip, which pretty much sucks ass, only good thing is, is that MWAVE.com sent me a whole new retail box motherboard, all I shipped them was a mobo, they shipped me a brand new retail mobo, no complaints there, as no refurb, brand new. My ram will be back tomorrow, will get things fired up before I leave for work tomorrow night, but won't be able to really play with it until monday.

OK - I fired up the 3.3 memtest and tested at both 1333/800 and 1066/800 (default) and both tests puked all over itself. So i went to the OCZ website and put in the suggeted settings for my motherboard. They included settings to adjust in the Advanced Settings portion - taking away auto and putting in (6/22/6/10/2/10/38/1.75ns) Not sure if this will reduce my memory bandwidth to a garden hose, but after that I can pass Memtest - at least a LOT futher and longer than before. I have NOT done an 8 hour grind yet.

BUT- trying to incorporate those settings mixed with settings in the thread for various clock speeds still leads to blue screens. I'll set up the OC and see if it passes memtest, but my first attempt at 1422/799 did fine with Memtest but not with windows.

So - - i'm at a crossroads. Get a new mobo such as an Intel 38 and run just ONE card in hopes of a higher overclock, or continue using 2x 8800GTX in SLI........

[my87csx481]

Hey have you tried these yet? http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=154

They seem to be the sweet spot for the quad and this board.

Yeah, it booted to windows. Probably could pass load test too....but I'm on air....tuniq 120....CPU went up over 70C measured with Coretemp .95. I got scared and stopped it and clocked it slower.

I've got a hopefully better cooler on the way. So we'll see

I think I'm gonna put my E6600 back on the Striker and get a p35 board for the quad.

[linflas]

OK - I fired up the 3.3 memtest and tested at both 1333/800 and 1066/800 (default) and both tests puked all over itself. So i went to the OCZ website and put in the suggeted settings for my motherboard. They included settings to adjust in the Advanced Settings portion - taking away auto and putting in (6/22/6/10/2/10/38/1.75ns) Not sure if this will reduce my memory bandwidth to a garden hose, but after that I can pass Memtest - at least a LOT futher and longer than before. I have NOT done an 8 hour grind yet.

BUT- trying to incorporate those settings mixed with settings in the thread for various clock speeds still leads to blue screens. I'll set up the OC and see if it passes memtest, but my first attempt at 1422/799 did fine with Memtest but not with windows.

So - - i'm at a crossroads. Get a new mobo such as an Intel 38 and run just ONE card in hopes of a higher overclock, or continue using 2x 8800GTX in SLI........

hate to say this, but OCZ ram has not been good to me, all the kits I have had over the last year I have returned.

My suggestion, grab 4GB of one of these. I use the Gskill, they are very, very good, not as much luck for me with the crucial, but I pushed the crucial harder than I have pushed the Gskill. They use the same D9's, but not sure about binning.

Price is high on them now I see, at least on the EGG

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...=2GB+(2+x+1GB)

The crucial's are great priced though $59 bucks after MIR for 2GB can't complain, they are the same chips as the Gskill, assume the Gskill is better binned is all I can say.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146565

RMA the OCZ and get what you can for them on ebay, try the settings I posted with the crucial/gskill and you should be fine. Hell you might even make a few bucks with the price of that crucial right now

Yeah, it booted to windows. Probably could pass load test too....but I'm on air....tuniq 120....CPU went up over 70C measured with Coretemp .95. I got scared and stopped it and clocked it slower.

I've got a hopefully better cooler on the way. So we'll see

I think I'm gonna put my E6600 back on the Striker and get a p35 board for the quad.

Really? 70C @ load, thought the tuniq was a really good air cooler, never had one myself though.

Hope the new cooler treats you better.

[BigGaroupa]

OK - I fired up the 3.3 memtest and tested at both 1333/800 and 1066/800 (default) and both tests puked all over itself. So i went to the OCZ website and put in the suggeted settings for my motherboard. They included settings to adjust in the Advanced Settings portion - taking away auto and putting in (6/22/6/10/2/10/38/1.75ns) Not sure if this will reduce my memory bandwidth to a garden hose, but after that I can pass Memtest - at least a LOT futher and longer than before. I have NOT done an 8 hour grind yet.

BUT- trying to incorporate those settings mixed with settings in the thread for various clock speeds still leads to blue screens. I'll set up the OC and see if it passes memtest, but my first attempt at 1422/799 did fine with Memtest but not with windows.

So - - i'm at a crossroads. Get a new mobo such as an Intel 38 and run just ONE card in hopes of a higher overclock, or continue using 2x 8800GTX in SLI........

I have 4x 1GB OCZ Platinum Rev 2, @ 888MHz 5-5-5-15
Any tighter on the RAM timings I fail P95. Can't even do 5-5-5-12 .. boo urns!

My CPU is at 1333FSB though all stable.

Will try pushing more with higher voltages, but my heatpipes get really hot and don't think it can handle much more.

[my87csx481]

....Really? 70C @ load, thought the tuniq was a really good air cooler, never had one myself though.

Hope the new cooler treats you better.

Yup, small fft load. WCG is about 5-10C cooler.

My E6600 only hit about 45C @ load with the same cooler/fan combination.

I dunno, maybe I'm using too much vcore. I don't seem to have as much vdroop as you. I had it at 1.469v (DMM) @ load (1.49xxx or 1.5 in BIOS) but, it errors out. If I up it even more, it errors faster.

Maybe my lapping job is no good (lapped cpu and heatsink). I don't think so though (I'm a machinist and I have my own surface plate that I use to lap parts). Maybe a bad mount job....but it idles at 35C average.

[Khaotic]

hate to say this, but OCZ ram has not been good to me, all the kits I have had over the last year I have returned.

My suggestion, grab 4GB of one of these. I use the Gskill, they are very, very good, not as much luck for me with the crucial, but I pushed the crucial harder than I have pushed the Gskill. They use the same D9's, but not sure about binning.

Price is high on them now I see, at least on the EGG

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...=2GB+(2+x+1GB)

The crucial's are great priced though $59 bucks after MIR for 2GB can't complain, they are the same chips as the Gskill, assume the Gskill is better binned is all I can say.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820146565

RMA the OCZ and get what you can for them on ebay, try the settings I posted with the crucial/gskill and you should be fine. Hell you might even make a few bucks with the price of that crucial right now

So, you're suggesting I run 4x 1GB sticks rather than 2x 2GB sticks?
There has been a lot of talk that 4x 1GB sticks is very hard for a chipset to deal with. My attention has been pulled in a lot of different directions lately, so It's getting harder for me to keep up with what's going on. I have seen the changelogs on the BIOS files that say that stability has been increased running 4x DIMMS, but the OCZ support threads say that latency issues in the chipset and certain ratios make running 4x 1GB sticks very difficult.

I have a set of CORSAIR Dominator 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1142 (PC2 9136) that i can try. Not sure of its module make-up. Is this respectable memory? I usually use it when ringing out an Intel chipset becuase of its high bus speed capability. Haven't really considered it for the 680i - even though it says EPP, the Striker doesn't pick up on EPP profile from what I can tell.

[NKD]

WCG is about 8-10c cooler for me than prime small fft's load.

[linflas]

So, you're suggesting I run 4x 1GB sticks rather than 2x 2GB sticks?
There has been a lot of talk that 4x 1GB sticks is very hard for a chipset to deal with. My attention has been pulled in a lot of different directions lately, so It's getting harder for me to keep up with what's going on. I have seen the changelogs on the BIOS files that say that stability has been increased running 4x DIMMS, but the OCZ support threads say that latency issues in the chipset and certain ratios make running 4x 1GB sticks very difficult.

I have a set of CORSAIR Dominator 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1142 (PC2 9136) that i can try. Not sure of its module make-up. Is this respectable memory? I usually use it when ringing out an Intel chipset becuase of its high bus speed capability. Haven't really considered it for the 680i - even though it says EPP, the Striker doesn't pick up on EPP profile from what I can tell.

My bad Khaotic, did not realize they were a 2x2GB pair. No actually 2 dimms are always better than 4 for overclocking.

[OBR]

My stable settings ... for now (i need to test cpu on X38 mobo, i dont believe this is max clock - maybe only on Striker ...)

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FSB - 1740
RAM - 1200 / 15-5-5-5/ 2.2V
CPU - 1.50V /3480MHz/
1.2HT - 1.75V
NB - Auto
SB - 1.70V
VTT - 1.50V

If i change any value (down and up too), system is unstable ...
If is FSB 1750 system is unstable ... at first i have to find real max clock on better board with X38 chipset ..., then my Striker test will continues ...

[my87csx481]

WCG is about 8-10c cooler for me than prime small fft's load.

Hey, just outta' curiosity, what are your core temps during small fft's at the clock in your sig (Q6600 G0(cpu batch# L723A795 VID 1.2250) at 3712, 412x9)?

Thanks.

[OBR]

This mobo is strange ... with Quad.
Now i am at 1800MHz FSB (450) and every values are on AUTO! Only RAM and CPU i set manualy ... and it is 4xPrime stable ...
CPU is only 450x7, because is not stable at 450x9 at any voltage, system freeze ... but here is proof it is not related to FSB or voltages, or FSB wall ... everything on Auto is pretty stable now ... but on 1740MHz i have to set higher voltages for everything manually ... but why is this Auto settings with higher FSB stable?

[Khaotic]

My bad Khaotic, did not realize they were a 2x2GB pair. No actually 2 dimms are always better than 4 for overclocking.

So if a guy were looking for 2x 2GB memory sticks to overclock with - what would you suggest?

[linflas]

So if a guy were looking for 2x 2GB memory sticks to overclock with - what would you suggest?

No clue, actually, but heard good things about the mushkin, but isn't Gskill supposed to have a great kit coming out soon?

Dunno honestly, don't own them, seemed a bit pricey for DDR2, as I will be swapping for DDR3 with my next upgrade, I haven't really looked closely.

I run 4GB of the Gskill PHUHZ DDR2-800, have been pretty happy with them.

[AkaAlias]

I've been reading this forum for a couple of days now, and been waiting for my registration to be activated so i could finely post a reply It's a great topic! There's not much to find out there for striker extreme with q6600 combo!

Anyway,

I've got:

Striker Extreme (1303 bios)
Q6600 G0
MSI 8800 GTX
4x1GB pc6400 ddr2 cl4 800mhz mem from dual ballistix
2x Samsung 500 GB hard disks
Scythe infinity with as5

Been having some issues with the striker since day one. After install, the bios hanged after 10 sec. Removed 2 memery sticks, flashed bios to 1305. Wich worked, but only on auto. Overclocking was a no go with the 1305. So downflashed to 1303 wich is recomended in a lot of forums.

Finally i'm having some succes with overclocking. Have got it running stable on 3.0 and loose mem timings of 5-5-5-15. Other crap is disabled and voltage are still all on auto. When i set to manual vcore and mem, i still have a pretty stable oc for 3.0 Ghz

But as soon is i try to clock to 3.2 for instance the oc is not stable anymore. The actual Vcore is about 0.1 lower as the bios setting. The drop from idle to load is about 0.03 i believe.

Can anyone help me out. I would really like my proc to run at 3.4 stable for 24/7 use. Some bios settings that can push me in the right direction would be very much apreciated.

[Leeghoofd]

Try 425 x 8 for 3.4Ghz, there are loads of FSB holes and 425 is surely a well suited quad FSB... the settings for further info are up in this thread, though each board/cpu can require different settings... Here are mine ( thx Linflas ) most important is to get 1.2 HT up high , wtih my quadcores that was at 1.35 -1.4 even at 450FSB

FSB - Memory Clock Mode: Unlinked
x FSB - Memory Ratio: 8
FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1700
Actual FSB (QDR), Mhz: 1700
MEM (DDR), Mhz: 850
Actual MEM (DDR), Mhz: 850
Vcore Voltage:1.55 for actual of 1.42
Memory Voltage:2.0
1.2v HT Voltage:1.70
NB Core Voltage:1.5
SB Core Voltage:1.6
CPU VTT Voltage:1.5
DDRII Controller Ref Voltage: auto
DDRII Channel A Ref Voltage: auto
DDRII Channel B Ref Voltage: auto

[AkaAlias]

Thanks for the quick reply and the settings! It just seems to me that 1.52 Vcore is a bit high, even for 3.4.... 3.0 runs fairly stable at a Vcore of 1.232 ilde and 1.200 load?

[Leeghoofd]

Well that's one of the reasons I said each CPU/mobo is different, I have 3 quads now ranging from 1.21, 1285 and 1.35 vid, the first one runs 3ghz at stock 1.2 (real volts under load) but I need to set 1.250 in bios to get there (that's on my P5K DLx), the Quad on my Striker is the 1.35 Vid one and that one needs real 1.42 volts to get to 3.4 stable even though it runs also on stock voltage at 3ghz... you have to see if you set it in the bios, reboot it , see the value in the bios or via everest or sortlikes (I wouldn't recommend CPU-Z as it behaves very erratic when reading out CPU voltages...) then start priming the PCU and see the Vcore voltage go down again, if it fails , bump it up or drop it ... I usually start a bit higher then back off slowly...

Sorry for the volts I just copied Linflas settings from first page and just adapted the NB, 1.2HT at which my rig works... edited previous post...

[AkaAlias]

It won't post with the above settings.

When i set it linked and synced at 375 fsb (1500 qp) for a oc to 3.375 and all other settings on auto it does post, but hangs right after. Could this be the way for me to go? And what settings do you recommend? The same? Or does higher multiplier mean lower voltages?

[Leeghoofd]

did you drop multi to 8 ? and alter the other settings too, look at first page of this thread to see all the settings... till now 99.9% of the users have had succes with these... you still on 1301 or 1303 bios ? Have you tried with ram at 800mhz ?

[AkaAlias]

Yes, tried it with 800 aswell, and multi was dropped to 8, bios version is 1303.

[Khaotic]

If any of the NB/SB/VTT, or 1.2HT voltages are TO HIGH at a given FSB, will it still work? Or is there any such thing as TO HIGH? I have an understanding of the basics of Overclocking. I've been overclocking in some form/fashion for a long time - but i have really ran out of patience with this board...... So basicly I'm looking for the readers digest version of what is working.
I built on the Striker to use a pair of 8800s in SLI to ensure i had the graphics power to run (almost) any game at the native resolution for my monitor - 2560x1600 - Dell 3007FPW.
Now it seems that nVidia has finally provided drivers that WORK with these cards on Vista. BUt now i'm at an empasse' Do i break up an SLI set to get a higher CPU overclock, or just suffer with a handicapped overclock in favor of an SLI setup? Surely there are folks here pondering this same quesiton. I guess what it would take is hours of benchmarking to see what gives the highest frame rate in real world games on each platform. If it weren't for this little thing called EVERYTHING ELSE in life, i would have that much time. And i use this machine far to much to tear it apart and go for that. So, until then, I just want a SOLID set of RAM to overclock with. Preferably 2x 2GB sticks......

[linflas]

If any of the NB/SB/VTT, or 1.2HT voltages are TO HIGH at a given FSB, will it still work? Or is there any such thing as TO HIGH? I have an understanding of the basics of Overclocking. I've been overclocking in some form/fashion for a long time - but i have really ran out of patience with this board...... So basicly I'm looking for the readers digest version of what is working.
I built on the Striker to use a pair of 8800s in SLI to ensure i had the graphics power to run (almost) any game at the native resolution for my monitor - 2560x1600 - Dell 3007FPW.
Now it seems that nVidia has finally provided drivers that WORK with these cards on Vista. BUt now i'm at an empasse' Do i break up an SLI set to get a higher CPU overclock, or just suffer with a handicapped overclock in favor of an SLI setup? Surely there are folks here pondering this same quesiton. I guess what it would take is hours of benchmarking to see what gives the highest frame rate in real world games on each platform. If it weren't for this little thing called EVERYTHING ELSE in life, i would have that much time. And i use this machine far to much to tear it apart and go for that. So, until then, I just want a SOLID set of RAM to overclock with. Preferably 2x 2GB sticks......

I will be testing a set of gskill 2x2gb sticks on wednesday or thursday, so will have some results for you by the end of the week.