**Official DFI LanParty UT P35-T2R Review/Overclock/Guide Thread**

[Brother Esau]

luihed......You are the first and only Lucky digit with that problem Thats very Gay and has to be annoying

[Brother Esau]

Sounds good, I've always had only DFI boards so what you said along with everyone else in this thread is encouraging

It's only about $290 at the 'egg right now and will probably drop by the time I get around to buying it.

Screw the Money its way worth the extra coin! To be honest this is my 6th Intel Clocking board since leaving my DFI Expert and to Date its the only Intel board that does not feel incomplete and quite honestly This is a Expert Board but for Intel......Just Do It!!!!

[kinghong1970]

ok, sorry for taking this thread back to the stone age...

i noticed folks are posting their bios settings... is it some programs that lists it out for you or do you keep note and manually type all that info in there?

i do find it quite useful in trying to make some sense out of it but just trying to get a crash course in learning the DFI board before it gets here...

thanks...

[jimmyz]

ok, sorry for taking this thread back to the stone age...

i noticed folks are posting their bios settings... is it some programs that lists it out for you or do you keep note and manually type all that info in there?

i do find it quite useful in trying to make some sense out of it but just trying to get a crash course in learning the DFI board before it gets here...

thanks...

here you go:http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...7&postcount=40
this is the template most people are using.
oops forgot the link to the 9/13 bios template:http://i4memory.com/showpost.php?p=72293&postcount=3

[kinghong1970]

thank you very much...

[Praz]

If you don't want to take up unnecessary space when posting your settings post the template with the following tags. Do not include the asterisks.

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Template
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CPU Feature
- Thermal Management Control: Disabled
- PPM(EIST) Mode: Disabled
- Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
- CIE Function: Disabled
- Execute Disable Bit: Disabled
- Virtualization Technology: Disabled
- Core Multi-Processing: Enabled

Exist Setup Shutdown: Mode 2
CLOCK VC0 divider: AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio Unlock: Enabled
CPU Clock Ratio:
- Target CPU Clock:
CPU Clock:
Boot Up Clock:
DRAM Speed:
- Target DRAM Speed:
PCIE Clock: 100mhz

Voltage Settings
CPU VID Control:
CPU VID Special Add:
DRAM Voltage Control:
SB 1.05V Voltage:
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage:
NB Core Voltage:
CPU VTT Voltage:
Vcore Droop Control: Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.45v
GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong
Host Slew Rate: Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control: Disable
x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 110
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 110
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 110

DRAM Timing
- Enhance Data transmitting: AUTO
- Enhance Addressing: AUTO
- Channel 1 CLK fine delay: AUTO
- Channel 2 CLK fine delay: AUTO

CAS Latency Time (tCL): 
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD):
RAS# Precharge (tRP):
Precharge Delay (tRAS):
All Precharge to Act: AUTO
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): AUTO
Performance Level: AUTO
MCH ODT Latency: AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): AUTO
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): AUTO
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): AUTO
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): 8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): 6
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): 6
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): 5
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): AUTO
ALL PRE to Refresh: AUTO

PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled

[kinghong1970]

Woa now... i just felt my braincell split into two!!!

amazing... learn something new every day...

thanks!

um... being a complete bios noob... do i just flash the latest or do i have to go in sequence?

[CyberDruid]

CyberDruid, nice benching chassis you have their.. home built ?

Yep: I never got over playing with erector sets

@CyberDruid........What size is that Fan that you stuck on the Transpiper 70mm? I had ordered a 60mm from the Egg with my Cross Blower thingy for my Stacker and its too small



Also as a Point of Interest I think that if you install that copper plate in conjuction with that water cooling you will be styling!

Lol not sure--I stole it off an AMD heatsink.

I dunno about the plate between CPU/WB but it will be easy enough to try.

I guess the T-piper works: the chipset temps are 10C lower than my hotblooded P5K deluxe.

I am seeing good times on the WUs...averaging 8 minutes to finish one percent of a SMP Gromacs at 3200--that's a tad faster than the P5K at the same rate..with faster RAM...hmmmm...time for more tweaking

[Jodiuh]

I could not see putting that metal plate between the CPU and WaterBlock. Has anyone tried that yet?

As retro said...has anyone done this? I would think you'd lose heat xfer efficiency w/ another layer of metal. But I'm no Expert...even tho I had one. And w/ all the comparisons to the IC7 Max, DFI nf4, etc...it will replace my IP35 Pro too.

[Praz]

do i just flash the latest or do i have to go in sequence?

Just flash to the latest. If you are flashing to the 09/13 BIOS do not use CMOS Reloaded settings from a previous BIOS. This is alway a good practice but is important with this new BIOS. Enough has been changed that attempting to use stored setting from a previous BIOS may result in a no-boot condition or a corrupted BIOS.

[retrospooty]

As retro said...has anyone done this? I would think you'd lose heat xfer efficiency w/ another layer of metal. But I'm no Expert...even tho I had one. And w/ all the comparisons to the IC7 Max, DFI nf4, etc...it will replace my IP35 Pro too.

I actually did wind up trying that... In the end I took it off though. It did seem to lower the pwm and nb temps a few degrees, and raise the CPU a few, not much difference though. I took it off because the n/b and pwm are not at all hot without it running as spec'd in my sig, and my CPU needed all the help it could get to hit 4ghz stable.

[Jodiuh]

THX, that makes perfect sense. I wonder if it's even necessary for the PWM/NB?

[retrospooty]

THX, that makes perfect sense. I wonder if it's even necessary for the PWM/NB?

Perhaps if you were doing 600+ mhz FSB, and your CPU was not being hindered it might help, but I know at 500-550 it is certainly not needed.

[Brother Esau]

As retro said...has anyone done this? I would think you'd lose heat xfer efficiency w/ another layer of metal. But I'm no Expert...even tho I had one. And w/ all the comparisons to the IC7 Max, DFI nf4, etc...it will replace my IP35 Pro too.

I have and use it that way. From a engineering point of view its completely logical in theory and in practice. I most certainly feel that it would excel as a all in one complete cooling package used in conjunction with a D-TEK Fusion block on the CPU it will increase you're cpu temps by 2-3c but also allow you're more critical areas to run much cooler as a direct result.

A few pages back Pc2Decimal posted extensive testing in all combinations with this Transpiper cooling system and his results and effort speak for themselves.

[dpg0815]

hey guys,

i asked allready in i4memory.com forum if anyone got 1t working with this mobo cause im allways stuck before i can even enter the bios again...

so i wonder if its just some of my settings or if its just not possible to make it run 1t (i know i know...it doesnt make much of a difference but this is XTREMEsystems not some site where they tell you the best price/performance stuff ) anyways

my bios template is:

CPU Feature
- Thermal Management Control: enabled
- PPM(EIST) Mode: enabled
- Limit CPUID MaxVal: Disabled
- CIE Function: auto
- Execute Disable Bit: enabled
- Virtualization Technology: enabled
- Core Multi-Processing: enabled

Exist Setup Shutdown: 	Mode 2
CLOCK VC0 divider: 	AUTO
CPU Clock Ratio: 	8x
- Target CPU Clock: 	3200
CPU Clock:		400
Boot Up Clock:		auto
DRAM Speed:		333/667
- Target DRAM Speed: 	801
PCIE Clock: 100mhz

Voltage Settings
CPU VID Control:1,375
CPU VID Special Add:auto
DRAM Voltage Control:2,1
SB 1.05V Voltage:1,07
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage:1,55
NB Core Voltage:1,45
CPU VTT Voltage:1,2
Vcore Droop Control: disabled
Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.45v
GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong
Host Slew Rate: Weak
GTL REF Voltage Control: enabled
x CPU GTL1/3 REF Volt: 48
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 48
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 110

DRAM Timing
- Enhance Data transmitting: Turbo
- Enhance Addressing: Fast
- T2 Dispatch: Auto

Clock Setting Fine Delay
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: Aggressive 
- DIMM 1 CLK fine delay: Current [14]
- DIMM 2 CLK fine delay: Current [6]
- Ch 1 Command fine delay: Current [10]
- Ch 1 Control fine delay: Curent [5]

Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: Aggressive
- DIMM 3 CLK fine delay: Current [13]
- DIMM 4 CLK fine delay: Current [5]
- Ch 2 Command fine delay: Current [9]
- Ch 2 Control fine delay: Curent [4]

Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting: Aggressive

Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay: Auto [tried setting 1T but doesnt boot then, cmosclear was needed to get back)

Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay: Auto [same as above]

CAS Latency Time (tCL): 4
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD):4
RAS# Precharge (tRP):3
Precharge Delay (tRAS):8
All Precharge to Act: AUTO4
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): AUTO24
Performance LVL (Read Delay) (tRD): 7

Read delay phase adjust: Enter [all auto]

MCH ODT Latency: AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): 10
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): 10
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): 3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): 8
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): 4
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): 5
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): 4
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): 3
ALL PRE to Refresh: AUTO

PCIE Slot Config: 1X 1X
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
SATA Spread Spectrum: Disabled

attached you can see where i get stuck when using either combination of settings with 1T enabled...sorry for the image quality but...it looked so sharp till i loaded it on to my pc (no im not good at taking pictures..even my wife complains lol)

thanks a lot for the input and as stated above, i know its not that much of a difference, but, even if its just 1 point difference its "faster" to me and dont forget...to be honest this is DFI, not gigabyte i wouldnt care about gigabyte not beeing able to run 1t, but this board is a whole different world to me

looking forward to seeing someone actually running with 1t (or i might have to either hope for a new bios or...rather give up my goal )

[CyberDruid]

I have and use it that way. From a engineering point of view its completely logical in theory and in practice. I most certainly feel that it would excel as a all in one complete cooling package used in conjunction with a D-TEK Fusion block on the CPU it will increase you're cpu temps by 2-3c but also allow you're more critical areas to run much cooler as a direct result.

A few pages back Pc2Decimal posted extensive testing in all combinations with this Transpiper cooling system and his results and effort speak for themselves.

Time to re-read again

[kinghong1970]

UPS just dropped the shipment at my home...

damn... still got 1 more hour to kill at the office...

[Jodiuh]

HOT PcCI2iminal Transpiper Action!!

Took me DAYS to go through the Abit IP35 Pro thread, may as well start @ 1 here too.

[jimmyz]

dpgo815, try loose timings such as 5-5-5-18 with 1t also change turbo to fast and common clock settings to auto then raise n/b to 1.65 and save and try to boot. start loose then try to tighten timings slowly till you find the limit of your ram.

[Brother Esau]

Just got my Cell Shock (PC2 8000) 4-4-4-12 from Ben at Tank Guys today. Ben you're the man Brother

[dpg0815]

dpgo815, try loose timings such as 5-5-5-18 with 1t also change turbo to fast and common clock settings to auto then raise n/b to 1.65 and save and try to boot. start loose then try to tighten timings slowly till you find the limit of your ram.

thanks for the response

did you have it running 1t on your board? (im just wondering) cause i tried 5-5-5-18 i tried all auto aswell..went up to 2.35vdimm and 1.65 nb, but i allways get the same spot where it stops...

my ram is running 500mhz 2t 4-4-4-8 aswell if i push the volts up that high, and i had it running 1t on the p5k deluxe before at 400mhz 4-4-4-12 with 2.25vdimm, i mean you cant compare those 2 boards really cause with the dfi board i get better bandwidth with t2 than i did with the p5k del. when i used 1t...

but thats what actually makes me want that 1t so much 8.2k read in everest aint something i aint happy about, but imagine with 1t

im starting to think it might have something to do with the bios or something, cause i didnt see anyone actually stating or showing a screeny, that they ran 1t with this board, i just read andre yang explaining where to set it and how u might get better 1t overclocks.

maybe im wrong though and im just way too disabled to make it work (just for info, this has cost me several sleepless nights allready )

^^ now you can try esau i wonder if you can make 1t work or if you have the same problem, i never give up hope heheehehh

[Grinch]

with a E6850 is it necessary to adjust the GTL's?

[Brother Esau]

Don't know thats a very good question.

[Praz]

with a E6850 is it necessary to adjust the GTL's?

I responded to your post at DFI-Club but I'll repost here.

A slight adjustment of GTL may allow for a slightly lower VCORE or the possibility of squeezing a bit more out of the processor when approaching the FSB wall. At least that's been my experience.

[Brother Esau]

Hey, John whats up? I have a question for you regarding this Ram What is usual voltage with this Ram @ 4-4-4-12 /266/667 @ 1064mhz X8 Multi 425 FSB
I have it set to 2.270Vdimm in Bios but Smart Guardian reads 2.2v which is accurate reading of Voltage on this Board Bios or SG?