Defenders of the Faith

[Skratch]

A true enthusiast will see threw all the fanbois and buy a q6600 go stepping. that chip will do3.6ghz for $265 and is the best bang for the buck out right now,You could also buy a board that supports ddr3 and be set for a while.

I'm not giving up on AMD yet,I'm waiting for some more in dept benching results but so far the cd2's look better with there aggressive mid rang prices.

It's funny how things have turned,I used to say this very same things about intel when AMD had the best bang for the buck mid end parts.

[funnyperson1]

A true enthusiast will see threw all the fanbois and buy a q6600 go stepping. that chip will do3.6ghz for $265 and is the best bang for the buck out right now,You could also buy a board that supports ddr3 and be set for a while.

I'm not giving up on AMD yet,I'm waiting for some more in dept benching results but so far the cd2's look better with there aggressive mid rang prices.

It's funny how things have turned,I used to say this very same things about intel when AMD had the best bang for the buck mid end parts.

See I just dislike the notion that one has to be able to drop $270 on a CPU in the first place to be considered a "true enthusiast." I also don't feel the the Q6600 is the best bang for buck right now in the true sense of performance/price ratio. Yes its the best bang for buck out of high-midrange CPUs, but hardly the best overall unless you're only considering folding or 3D rendering.

If you ask me the whole concept of overclocking is born from the idea of paying less and getting more out of it. Right now we have great $60-80 chips like the Brisbanes and the E21XX series that when overclocked to their max get close to top end performance in games and other apps that most people here use. Thats the range that I play, because thats where I can afford to play in, and in that range imho AMD is the winner due to cheaper motherboards.

[Skratch]

See I just dislike the notion that one has to be able to drop $270 on a CPU in the first place to be considered a "true enthusiast." I also don't feel the the Q6600 is the best bang for buck right now in the true sense of performance/price ratio. Yes its the best bang for buck out of high-midrange CPUs, but hardly the best overall unless you're only considering folding or 3D rendering.

If you ask me the whole concept of overclocking is born from the idea of paying less and getting more out of it. Right now we have great $60-80 chips like the Brisbanes and the E21XX series that when overclocked to their max get close to top end performance in games and other apps that most people here use. Thats the range that I play, because thats where I can afford to play in, and in that range imho AMD is the winner due to cheaper motherboards.

No one said you have to get a q6600,It is the best overall because they do 3.6-3.8ghz ON AIR over all.When overclocked they out do any other chip on the market and I hate to say this even the new Bacelonas that are about to come out.For an extra 125 dollars over what ever low end chip you can buy,you get the whole 4mg of cache and the extra 2 cores with the potential of running them up to 3.8 ghz on air.What are you going to say when intel drops them to 200 bucks when bacelona hits the stores?is 200 still to much?Forget brand names and look at the raw power of the q6600.It hands down smokes everything out there.Im not getting into a AMD vs INTEL debate.Only a fan boy would not buy a q6600.I love AMD to death and am a true fan at heart,but my money is going where the performance/bucks are and that is with intel right now.


I hate how you people keep bringing up the mother board prices.I paid 164 for my board last year(DFI 975x).That is exactly what I paid for my dfi nf4 ultra back in the day.

[funnyperson1]

No one said you have to get a q6600,It is the best overall because they do 3.6-3.8ghz ON AIR over all.When overclocked they out do any other chip on the market and I hate to say this even the new Bacelonas that are about to come out.For an extra 125 dollars over what ever low end chip you can buy,you get the whole 4mg of cache and the extra 2 cores with the potential of running them up to 3.8 ghz on air.What are you going to say when intel drops them to 200 bucks when bacelona hits the stores?is 200 still to much?Forget brand names and look at the raw power of the q6600.It hands down smokes everything out there.Im not getting into a AMD vs INTEL debate.Only a fan boy would not buy a q6600.I love AMD to death and am a true fan at heart,but my money is going where the performance/bucks are and that is with intel right now.


I hate how you people keep bringing up the mother board prices.I paid 164 for my board last year(DFI 975x).That is exactly what I paid for my dfi nf4 ultra back in the day.

Well I wouldn't pay $164 for the DFIs either. Call me cheap but for me bang for buck means extracting the most performance for the least amount of money. I don't see any applications that I use utilizing quad cores, and so while I wouldn't buy a Q6600, I wouldn't buy a Phenom either, at least not until the price drops below $150 and I see a bunch of games that I want to play supporting and benefiting from quad cores.

During the 939 era I used an ASRock 939Dual to get my Opty144 to 2.7, maybe if I had a DFI I could have gotten to 3ghz, but again, why would I pay twice as much for a motherboard to get an extra 10% performance. If that board hadn't died, I would still be using that rig today.

Right now there are AM2 boards from Biostar and Gigabyte which oc well enough to max out any AM2 CPU for $60-80. The good Intel ocing boards start around $100.

In any case all the games in recent memory have been graphics limited unless you have two 8800s or 2900XTs.

The Q6600 is no doubt a great chip, but $275 is almost as much as my mobo, ram, and CPU combined cost me.

I'm not so much an AMD fan, but I am a fan of buying low and overclocking to make up for it. When I was getting parts for my current rig I really wanted a Core2Duo, but the cheapest C2D was $180 (E4300), and the cheapest good motherboard was $120 (TForce965). My CPU and mobo cost me $175 total, and other than SuperPi and Folding, I wouldn't have really noticed the difference. But I do notice $100 in my pocket.