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    Quote Originally Posted by SparkyJJO View Post
    OK

    sweet now make one the other way too. gotta be fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR_SmartAss View Post
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    *Flicks on a cigarette lighter, raises it above the head and sings (as per Queen: We Will Rock You)*

    "We want, we want benchmarks!
    We want, we want benchmarks!"
    Quote Originally Posted by SOLDNER-MOFO64
    So what you gonna do when your crap-2-duo comes second to a toilet flush?
    Maybe upgrade to Core 2 Quad and make it a fair comparison?
    You were not supposed to see this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR_SmartAss View Post
    LOL excellent!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hornet331 View Post
    ok, well thats your theory, and here goes your theory ... the E4300 needs 22W under load and has a TDP of 65W... sure, some real avarage power consumption intel gives with its TDP.
    Thats because Intel uses TDP categories rather than exact TDP. So 67W means lless than or equal to 67W. While say 120W means 67<TDP>=120
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    Quote Originally Posted by STEvil View Post
    That is how Intel chips are rated, its not new.
    Quote Originally Posted by BrowncoatGR View Post
    Thats because Intel uses TDP categories rather than exact TDP. So 67W means lless than or equal to 67W. While say 120W means 67<TDP>=120
    i know that.

    Still intels TDP is NOT avarage power consumption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrowncoatGR View Post
    Thats because Intel uses TDP categories rather than exact TDP. So 67W means lless than or equal to 67W. While say 120W means 67<TDP>=120
    They both do that. And they both use the same measurement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shintai View Post
    They both do that. And they both use the same measurement.
    Please don't say incorrect things, the measurement is not the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardyMan View Post
    Please don't say incorrect things, the measurement is not the same
    If you are talking about AMD being max TDP and Intel being average TDP then you are quite alot of years late. Because its been the same for quite many years now. And 3.0-3.2Ghz K8s easily reach around their TDP max.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SparkyJJO View Post
    OK

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    Quote Originally Posted by amd
    Thermal Design Power is measured under the conditions of Tcase Max, IDD Max, and VDD=VID_VDD and include all power dissipated on-die from VDD, VDDIO, VLDT, and VDDA.
    http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/cont...docs/33954.pdf Page 32, Note 4
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    Quote Originally Posted by rozzyroz View Post
    sweet now make one the other way too. gotta be fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by largon View Post
    *Flicks on a cigarette lighter, raises it above the head and sings (as per Queen: We Will Rock You)*

    "We want, we want benchmarks!
    We want, we want benchmarks!"
    Maybe upgrade to Core 2 Quad and make it a fair comparison?
    This is the part when the AMD fanboys start screaming at the intel fanboys:
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    Buddy you're a young man hard man
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    You got blood on yo face
    You big disgrace
    Wavin' your banner all over the place

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan View Post
    There is supposed to be like a slideshow or something accompanied by a live demonstration.

    Is anyone going to be there? I'm pretty sure [H] is going to be there, but I want to know if anyone from XS is going.
    why wouldn't [H] be there when they're a paid marketing wing of AMD LOL!

    No matter what's said, I wish AMD Luck.
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    I am sure JF is relaxed and smiling these days with there intended launch schedule. SNB Xeon servers on the other hand....
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    there yo go bringing intel into a amd thread again lol, if that was someone droping a dig at amd you would be crying like a girl.
    qft!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR_SmartAss View Post

    nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by coffeetime View Post
    heh, not that other way

    i just want one of each so that who ever comes out on top, i can post the appropriate gif.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR_SmartAss View Post
    "This site doesn't support hotlinking"

    I really wanna see that vid
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    Quote Originally Posted by SparkyJJO View Post
    OK

    Amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by largon View Post
    "We want, we want benchmarks!
    We want, we want benchmarks!"
    Maybe upgrade to Core 2 Quad and make it a fair comparison?
    No your C2Q will look pretty much the same as the crap2duo when you take on a REAL quad-core cpu

    So what you gonna do then?

    1 more day to go......yay
    Last edited by SOLDNER-MOFO64; 09-09-2007 at 03:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K.I.T.T. View Post
    "This site doesn't support hotlinking"

    I really wanna see that vid
    copy & paste

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    Quote Originally Posted by MR_SmartAss View Post
    What's that?
    The last architecture INTEL rolled out the door in a rush in order to whoop AMD before AMD could get around to launching BARCELONA, so that INTEL could actually take the performance crown for a little while. They knew BARCELONA was coming and would eclipse everything they've EVER created so threw some PIII's together and came up with crap-2-duo.

    They took the same approach with C2Q's......fire a couple of crap-2-duo's together and launch them as a quad-core

    "Look everyone.....we've beaten AMD to a pair of DC's on one die....awesome!"

    Meanwhile, back in AMD labs.....some of the techs were designing BARCELONA and not skimping on it either.

    to AMD PWNAGE

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    I wish that every new architecture that comes out offering such a performance boost "sucks" as much as C2D.

    Intel arent stupid for releasing 2 dual-core dies on 1 chip to get a Quad- 95&#37;+ of people dont give a **** how they get 4 cores onto 1 CPU, as long as they do. From an engineering POV, its a little crude, but in terms of making money and getting something onto the market, its beautiful.
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    isnt money the only thing that counts ? (perfect example would be 3dfx, miles ahead in engineering, but fatal business failures)

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