I hope this is true, but we'll know soon enough, Sept.10 is the Bacelona launch right?
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I just check my mail and 4 people have reported different posts here.
Same old thing..The AMD guys and the Intel guys at one another again.
Why guys? Most of you appear to be way too smart for this so why fight over what is really a little thing?
If they believe the AMD will do 30K then fine, thats someone's opinion..
Sounds really high to me personally as didn't I just read that Kinc and Shamino did 27,000 at app 5000mhz on an Intel?
30,000 on air at 3000mhz on the AMD sounds awefully high wouldn't you agree?
Now I'm far from any expert on 3DMark but thats common sense speaking.
The only thing I ask of you is that before you post, look at the post and read it as if your in the "other" side of this issue and don't attack individuals.
Calling someone an idiot or a retard just because they disagree with you is a slam against yourself not them..
Keep a perspective please..
Last: Aren't we supposed to be friends here sharing a hobby that we all love?
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And Craptacular, this is one of those times where you observe, absorb, and ignore. Your argument is a proven fact and is 100% true, while his is a matter of opinion and skepticism that is needless. At any rate, neither of you are going to budge so just forget about it...
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I see K10 take some internal parts and go from 64-bit to 128 bit. I see some nice new cache.
I see RD790 has some cache in too, like nForce used to, and noone could beat.
I see lots of strange things...so 30k, nah, not so hard. I wondered why 2900XT had pci-e 2.0 powqer connectors...and why people were up in arms recently about current cards NOT being pci-e 2.0. Then thought of nV with new refresh, and AMD without...and no, i don't see dead people, thanks!![]()
Last edited by cadaveca; 08-29-2007 at 06:46 AM.
I love this hobby as much as the next guy. Where I differ from what I see in this and other threads is my willingness to look objectively at the hardware.
Good is good and I don't care whose name is on it.
Right now there's 2-8 core clovertown machines in my house.Why? Because I thought they were the best available for the work I do.
If the new AMD's prove Superior you can bet that they will have a new friend beside them and they will get along or I will take a whip to them!![]()
Had a dual Opty 265 here for a while..Immense machine at the time. Beat the crap out of my DX3600 machine..Granted 4 cores vs 2 but they were comparable technology and timeframe..
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Yea...I must say, i see some fish ran off with the hook, i wonder how you get that hook back? If it was some special metal, should not be hard to find.
So, you think about that hook, and how much it meant...you cry a tear...and then you tell your friends, in rememberance, maybe have a drink, and reflect back on the good times.
Takes a special hook to catch a special fish...
Actually, it WAS rhetorical. 'cause you did not see his original post(which hit my email, BTW), nor have you played with as much hardware as I have. Fact of the matter is as he says, few boards have proper memory remapping. P5WDH, for example, starts remap after 2GB. P5K, after 3070MB...becasue it does not differentiate between pci and pci-e in it allocation. And yes, i expect him to at least confirm what I'm saying, becasue i don't mind looking like a fool, especially when I'm right. IN fact, I don't mind posting a DXdiag to show it either.
Last edited by cadaveca; 08-29-2007 at 07:03 AM.
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Sry for posting this more than once, but let's get this out in the open.
Enough crap. Let's show the official spokespeople.
AMD's Quads to outperform Intel's by over 40%
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_n3wvsfq4Y
3GHZ demo is TRIFIRE:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7EZmYth6TM
So, unless these people are in fact lying(hence the Fudzilla comment yesterday), maybe it is far more possible than most think, and then again, maybe not.
And i gotta get off the internets.![]()
Last edited by cadaveca; 08-29-2007 at 07:30 AM. Reason: Fixed link, thanks Morais
cadaveca, the link to the first video is incorrect
The second one was kind of meh.
I understand it's part of the business but having her state the obvious after you've had your camera jammed into the case would have annoyed me.
Here is another.
In this vid they mention that there will be a dual 1207FX board based on the 790 chipset
Hopefully there will not be any bios skulduggery that will prevent hte use of Barcelona's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EW-hvLd_Yg
The architecture is different, L3 cache etc. and everyone knows that when you overclock a processor it does not necessarily scale well... Explaining the disparity between a 5ghz c2d and a 3ghz Barcelona
It is within reason that Theo is telling the truth.
If it had 3 or 4 gpu's without his knowledge that would explain it as well.
Last edited by Agent11; 08-29-2007 at 07:34 AM.
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Of your 23 total posts you've made, you decided to waste one on thatThanks for populating this thread with eve more
And my suspicions are confirmed if this is what they used as was posted above...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7EZmYth6TM
now that seems entirely plausible, 3 2900XTs with a 3Ghz quad core may be able to do it. Now I know that the people at INQ are all retards...
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You don't know the circumstances of the test.
From the pics I have seen it could be plausible that Kinc and Shamino lured the female attendants away from the rig with their irresistible 'charms' while Theo dropped behind the keyboard surreptitiously to have his way with the rig.
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Obviously time was a commodity of limited supply.
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