ASUS P5W DH - Problems + Fixes Thread

[ae804]

To help more detail is required e.g your setup,psu etc and all your current Bios settings.

Sorry it took me so long to respond. I've been busy.

System information:

CPU: E6400
Motherboard: P5W DH Deluxe Bios: 2004
Memory: 2X1GB Geil 800 MHz
Graphics Card: X1950XT Sapphire 256mb
Hard Drive: RAID10 250 barracuda's
Sound Card: X-Fi XtremeMusic
Power Supply: 600W GameXStream
Case: TT Armor Modded
CPU cooling: Fugly Stinger WC
GPU cooling: Maze 4 WC
Memory cooling: Fans
Case cooling: 3X120(Silverstone) 2X80's TT Stock


Problem:
Using SetFSB to test, I can set the fst to any number lower than 356.8, but when i set it to 356.8, the computer freezes up.

[k0nsl]

Sorry it took me so long to respond. I've been busy.

System information:

CPU: E6400
Motherboard: P5W DH Deluxe Bios: 2004
Memory: 2X1GB Geil 800 MHz
Graphics Card: X1950XT Sapphire 256mb
Hard Drive: RAID10 250 barracuda's
Sound Card: X-Fi XtremeMusic
Power Supply: 600W GameXStream
Case: TT Armor Modded
CPU cooling: Fugly Stinger WC
GPU cooling: Maze 4 WC
Memory cooling: Fans
Case cooling: 3X120(Silverstone) 2X80's TT Stock


Problem:
Using SetFSB to test, I can set the fst to any number lower than 356.8, but when i set it to 356.8, the computer freezes up.

You forgot the BIOS settings. We have a similar problem in that both of us are stuck between 360 or in that area. I can get to that, but it isn't stable.

Right now I can not even overclock more than 2,2GHz as this 2205 BIOS does not save vcore values and even disables the option whenever the chance arises. I am starting to become very tired of this now...but the board in general is really a good board.

[ae804]

You forgot the BIOS settings. We have a similar problem in that both of us are stuck between 360 or in that area. I can get to that, but it isn't stable.

Right now I can not even overclock more than 2,2GHz as this 2205 BIOS does not save vcore values and even disables the option whenever the chance arises. I am starting to become very tired of this now...but the board in general is really a good board.

After reading this post, I begin to wonder if our problems lie in the cooling on the north bridge. Maybe we're creating too much heat on it and it's throttling some how.

Just a thought, but as for the Bios Settings... I'm too lazy to type everything in, but here are some pics. I just made an album for them as it seems to be easier, and I don't take up space in this thread

Enjoy!

[sesdave]

After reading this post, I begin to wonder if our problems lie in the cooling on the north bridge. Maybe we're creating too much heat on it and it's throttling some how.

Just a thought, but as for the Bios Settings... I'm too lazy to type everything in, but here are some pics. I just made an album for them as it seems to be easier, and I don't take up space in this thread

Enjoy!

have you done the MB cooling mod foir the NB/SB?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=106563
if not it is worth doing plus get a 40mm fan and stick it on the NB - it helps a lot. Also - here is a link to a useful O/C guide http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardw...ict197995.html

From the pics you have posted I would disable all Q fan control also memory remap unless you have 4GB. Set FSB - 1.3 or 1.4v ,MCH = 1.65 and maybe up the memory volts - I dont know what they are speced for. I couldn't see the vcore setting but follow the guide recommendation and see how you get on. Your PSU might be a bit light for this board - nearer 600w or above is what is recommended

[ae804]

have you done the MB cooling mod foir the NB/SB?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=106563
if not it is worth doing plus get a 40mm fan and stick it on the NB - it helps a lot. Also - here is a link to a useful O/C guide http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardw...ict197995.html

From the pics you have posted I would disable all Q fan control also memory remap unless you have 4GB. Set FSB - 1.3 or 1.4v ,MCH = 1.65 and maybe up the memory volts - I dont know what they are speced for. I couldn't see the vcore setting but follow the guide recommendation and see how you get on. Your PSU might be a bit light for this board - nearer 600w or above is what is recommended

Thanks, I'll give that a try. I'm thinking I can get a small fan from work, and probably use that. I also have a couple chipset coolers (TT Spirit II's). If i get some time, I'll try that.

as for the PSU... I wish I could figure out a way to test if it's the PSU with out buying a new one. I don't want to spend $150 just to realize it's something else, any suggestions? Maybe unplug all but 1 of the hdd's and one of my Optical drives??? Would that give me enough leeway to work some magic?

Thanks,
AE

[sesdave]

Thanks, I'll give that a try. I'm thinking I can get a small fan from work, and probably use that. I also have a couple chipset coolers (TT Spirit II's). If i get some time, I'll try that.

as for the PSU... I wish I could figure out a way to test if it's the PSU with out buying a new one. I don't want to spend $150 just to realize it's something else, any suggestions? Maybe unplug all but 1 of the hdd's and one of my Optical drives??? Would that give me enough leeway to work some magic?

Thanks,
AE

Lawrywild installed the spirit !! on the NB - search for his post re clip connection and removing existing heatpipe. To remove existing NB,mofset and Southbridge heatsinks use a click type pen barrel rather than long nose plier to compress the heatsink pins. It fits just right to compress the pins enough to allow withdrawl without any damage. Someone else posted that when you have removed NB and Mofset you can heat it up and it will just seperate else just cut it near the mofset. I wouldnt bother replacing the SB with a spirit 11 - it doesnt get that hot and the spirit !! would propbably get in the way of Graphic cards e.g 8800's. I found I had to offset the 40mm fan on it to allow the card install. I am not saying your PSU is a problem just that a good clean and accurate delivery of required voltage is important when overclocking. I thought you stated a 480w PSU in a previous post but I see you have a 600w gamestream - that will be fine.

[ntvh]

here is my chipset blocks. It works out fine for me.

PS: tube is 3/4 http://www.mips-computer.de/index.htm

[ae804]

Lawrywild installed the spirit !! on the NB - search for his post re clip connection and removing existing heatpipe. To remove existing NB,mofset and Southbridge heatsinks use a click type pen barrel rather than long nose plier to compress the heatsink pins. It fits just right to compress the pins enough to allow withdrawl without any damage. Someone else posted that when you have removed NB and Mofset you can heat it up and it will just seperate else just cut it near the mofset. I wouldnt bother replacing the SB with a spirit 11 - it doesnt get that hot and the spirit !! would propbably get in the way of Graphic cards e.g 8800's. I found I had to offset the 40mm fan on it to allow the card install. I am not saying your PSU is a problem just that a good clean and accurate delivery of required voltage is important when overclocking. I thought you stated a 480w PSU in a previous post but I see you have a 600w gamestream - that will be fine.

good to know. My south bridge hasn't really been showing any temp problems. It's been pretty constant around 35-40'C.

Another question, Do I have to do anything to cool the msofets if I change the NB?

Status update: Up to page 100/530 (I changed it so there would be 10 posts per page.... seems like i'm moving quick that way :p)

[Eastcoasthandle]

Will the P5W DH Deluxe be compatible with Penryn?

[sesdave]

Not on this list of Asus compatible MBs http://event.asus.com/mb/45nm/

[mikepaul]

Not on this list of Asus compatible MBs http://event.asus.com/mb/45nm/

Well, it'll be sad to only get 18 months out of my P5W if I have to replace it to use a Penryn. I'd have to settle for a quad CPU with hyperthreading rather than dump the motherboard too. Already I see awful performance just using 802.11G to transfer files to the C2D computer, where moving my USB mouse around to the right spot becomes an adventure, so I want more guts. I can't always use Vista due to hardware incompatibility so no amount of thread handling improvements there mean much to me. Maybe if I run a cable through the attic things would work better all around, but that still costs more than I want to spend. Not sure where the next upgrade really needs to go.

Amazon is delaying the $79 power supply to December 21 as "unavailable", despite listing other vendors as low as $119, so I'm stuck at a very reliable 30% overclock (~2.4Ghz) until then, when I might be able to get back to 2.87Ghz to help overcome performance issues...