Quote Originally Posted by BrowncoatGR View Post
Those are Opteron TDPs. AMD rates Opterons higher for whatever reason. And its not related to chip quality. A 95W Opteron part is a 89W desktop part.
Because for the most part, most of those using Opterons in Business settings aren't AMD Fans and will call not only AMD, but Intel as well on BS Spec sheets. Products marted to these folks will have fewer lies attached.

Quote Originally Posted by BrowncoatGR View Post
Oh really? I suppose you somewhere got a Barton clocked at 3Ghz stock Thats not to say clockspeeds have improved much but that is affected more by the transition from SC to DC than anything else. Whats the overclock record for K8 3.8 something wasnt it?
I agree that it hits a wall or somewhere near 3GHz and that's been the case on average for how long now. I don't care about a Dry-Ice 3.8 I got an E6600 that runs comfortably at 3GHz and I'm told that sucks. Yet, it is faster than my bud's watercooled to 3.3GHz FX-62 that alone cost more than my whole rig!