Official AMD Barcelona Thread

[Donnie27]

LOL... that wasn't even the point nn. Not sure why you came up with a random K8 is 3 years old comment. It had nothing to do with what I was posting.

All along I have been trying to say that AMD is quite 'choosy' in what it compares itself to. Since Turion loses to C2D, it compares itself to CoreDuo instead. Since X2 loses to C2D in CPU performance, it compares platform integrated performance instead, whilst using an outdated platform for C2D as well. Hence my opinion that AMD cherrypicks data, just like any corporation would do. Geddit now?

QFT!

They know what you meant and understood it very clearly. That's what stings some of them as cheer for AMD as if they were the Latest Superbowl winners. Barcelona's core improvements should help an already good processor. Just because the old ones got spanked, still didn't mean they sucked.

Before my next Barkie posts, preface;

Shadowmage is wrong. Not just a differing opinion, just wrong.

http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/..._13911,00.html

AMD + 65bit vs Core1 no 64bits. What if Intel's first Conroe Demo was vs. an FX 55?

http://www.engadget.com/2006/05/17/a...ight-core-duo/

Computex 2005 AMD formally launched its Athlon 64 X2 dual-core desktop processor today (May 31, 2005).

Turion X2 was paper launches a year later May 2006 and actually went on sale AFTER Merom.

So AMD implies that Turion shipped before Merom, Intel's Notebooks aren't 64bit compat, C2D notebook are newer and rare, and yada yada, all BS. But we should believe what they say about Barcelona, yea, right!

AMD doesn’t market Turion as a Budget Processor vs. Celeron or C1-Dothan. Unless you guys don’t read AMD’s marketing. No way in hell Intel lies that much. Conroe's debut was a prime example.

Lastly, we shouldn't accept or make excuses for shi-tte like this from Intel or AMD BTW. That’s not doing ANYONE any kind of favor and just muddies up the info pool. I only hope the problem AMD is having is thermals and not performance bugs. Thermal problems can be fixed, Prescott and the first TBreads pretty much proved that.