Quote Originally Posted by Periander6 View Post
You aren't bursting any bubbles.

You want to pretend that C2 doesn't have a 20% IPC advantage over K8, suit youself. The rest of the world gets results like the ones Xbit, Techreport, Anand and every other competent testing outfit gets, 20% or so, if anything that is being generous to the K8.

Sun is a seller of complete systems, and are still struggling. If they tried to make it just as maker of Sparc chips, they would be out of business in weeks. Absurd to compare them to AMD.

Yes, people can browse the web and read e-mail with inferior CPUs. The problem is that AMD has to make enough of a profit to make payments on their 5+ billions in debt, fund chip development, equip their fabs ect.. Slower, inferior chips don't fetch much of a price. Not nearly enough to keep AMD from sinking.
i'm with nn_step on this one, yes C2D got an 20% IPC advantage but they still WIN in SOME apps (I DO NOT TALK ABOUT THE MAJORITY APPS, but in some apps amd can keep up with C2D, and in 64bit the disadvantage is less significant )

for gaming: i doubt that you see much of a difference when using mid range graphics cards in systems for up to 1000$ , but in the higher and amd got no chance against intel