Quote Originally Posted by nn_step View Post
umm I would hate to burst your bubble but the performance difference between Conroe and K8 isn't that large, infact in a few places K8 does out perform conroe. So logically a 2.3Ghz Barcelona should directly compete against a 2.66Ghz Kentsfield.
On a side note the server market has carried Sun for the majority of their history and I do doubt that AMD could possibly be forced off the desktop market, where a 386 is sufficient for some people to browse the web and read their email.
You aren't bursting any bubbles.

You want to pretend that C2 doesn't have a 20% IPC advantage over K8, suit youself. The rest of the world gets results like the ones Xbit, Techreport, Anand and every other competent testing outfit gets, 20% or so, if anything that is being generous to the K8.

Sun is a seller of complete systems, and are still struggling. If they tried to make it just as maker of Sparc chips, they would be out of business in weeks. Absurd to compare them to AMD.

Yes, people can browse the web and read e-mail with inferior CPUs. The problem is that AMD has to make enough of a profit to make payments on their 5+ billions in debt, fund chip development, equip their fabs ect.. Slower, inferior chips don't fetch much of a price. Not nearly enough to keep AMD from sinking.