Quote Originally Posted by Periander6 View Post
A 15% IPC improvement over k8 would indicate that they need a 2.5-2.6GHz Phenom, which they are nowhere near atm, to match a Q6600 that is going to be selling for $266 in 2 weeks. Nevermind Penryn coming out in the same timeframe as Phenom. 60% of AMD's CPU revenues come from the desktop segment, and without a miracle stepping they sure look like they are going to be toast in this segment.

Servers are nowhere near a large enough segement to carry AMD, and anyway AMD is and will be facing much much tougher competition with Seaburg/Harpertown and Tigerton, not to mention Gainestown on the horizon.

So, please explain your position as to why all this is just rubbish instead of hurling personal insults, or are insults all that you've got?
umm I would hate to burst your bubble but the performance difference between Conroe and K8 isn't that large, infact in a few places K8 does out perform conroe. So logically a 2.3Ghz Barcelona should directly compete against a 2.66Ghz Kentsfield.
On a side note the server market has carried Sun for the majority of their history and I do doubt that AMD could possibly be forced off the desktop market, where a 386 is sufficient for some people to browse the web and read their email.