TJ07 + PA120.3 + PA120.2 = Photos of my version of this.

[Deux]

Q&A's

A little update...seems I got some bum Ballistix, I have really bad luck with memory, second time out of 2 times this happened. Did some testing and the memory doesnt do its rated spec with memtest, so something's funny there. And the random lockup at 423 MHz even after a 8 hour Orthos run is weird. Either that or I dont know what I'm doing, but I tried pretty much all MCH/FSB/Memory voltage combos, straps, timings, and speeds, still doesnt work right. So I put the old Corsair memory with those high-bandwidth Promos chips in them and am just running it at 3.7 GHz now. I will cherish the day I buy some fancy memory and it isnt DOA or refusing to do the rated spec.

If I were you I would RMA the Ballistix since crucial has one of the best RMA services I have ever seen. Up there with EVGA.

[AndyM]

No need for an RMA, the problem was I have no idea what I am doing. I just discovered the limitations of the 4:5 memory divider of my board, the memory tests ok on another divider to make 500mhz. That sent me on the wrong path and it went downhill from there. But now that I did a bit of reading on the 975X today, I think I can get to where I'm going without looking too idiotic in the process, hopefully

It's getting there...still figuring out the voltages:

[nealh]

Nice Overclock....still on the Badaxe2

BTW..got a look at my TJ07....beautiful case...

My panels are a "little" lose on top so too speak..one side slight worse than the other..I could see how this would rattle....I hope it will not in the end

I got say disappointed with the side panels ..one of mine has some silver exposed along where it slides in at the top

Also the edges along the lip on the right is rough...I thought all the edges were smooth...not the best QC, IMHO

I realize supposedly this is "individual built" but the side panels are a concern esp the loose fit on the top and the fact the "black" paint has chipped/rubbed of by the factory ..also the warranty is BS ..any replacement parts is through the store it was bought at...right, I can see asking for a new side panel and the internet store thinking I am nuts

I have Dynamat Extreme on the way as per Maxxracer for sound dampening and wilh some molding from Petra'sand weatherstripping I think I can avoid the rattles


I wish i had time to start my build but were are leaving on vacation, Sunday....Hawaii here we come

[AndyM]

You got it, cool. Yeah, these arent perfect, they should be for the price I think, but it's still nice. My rattly side panel doesnt make any noise, unless there was an earthquake then it would. Dont worry about it too much. I'm thinking a bit of dynamat for the hard drive cage. I'm used to that hunk of steel housing of the Antec, you can hear the clicks with this whereas the Antec you really had to try to hear it. I guess that's aluminium for you, some damping material should fix that easy. I've been thinking that this thing would look really cool if it had a brushed finish before they anodized it vs. the blasted finish the body has currently. Can you imagine a polished finish pre-anodizing? That would be really sweet. Know anyone in some sort of metal treatment shop? Whoops, Orthos bombed again writing this...I guess it's back down to 3.7 from the 3.75 I mentioned in the other thread. Wierd though, 3.8 ran ok for 8 hours the other day, gotta check my notes what volts that was at, otherwise this things falling apart. P35 might be sooner than later, I know my CPU wants to run...3.8 worked at 1.52.

[nealh]

You got it, cool. Yeah, these arent perfect, they should be for the price I think, but it's still nice. My rattly side panel doesnt make any noise, unless there was an earthquake then it would. Dont worry about it too much. I'm thinking a bit of dynamat for the hard drive cage. I'm used to that hunk of steel housing of the Antec, you can hear the clicks with this whereas the Antec you really had to try to hear it. I guess that's aluminium for you, some damping material should fix that easy. I've been thinking that this thing would look really cool if it had a brushed finish before they anodized it vs. the blasted finish the body has currently. Can you imagine a polished finish pre-anodizing? That would be really sweet

For $300 it should be perfect I agree..thats right you had a rattly panel too

I paid $60 shipped for the Dynamat Extreme got 12 sq ft coming..I doubt I will use all of it
Maxxracer suggested 2 packs of 4 sq ft but that was like $56 or so shipped

I found a place at ebay..fast shipping too(they next day after payment)
http://cgi.ebay.com/10435-DYNAMAT-Xt...QQcmdZViewItem

[yaddam205]

Wow, someone has a mastery in cable management.

A really top job there Andy, lets hope my TJ07 project comes out even half as clean as yours.

PS: Any pics with side on?

[dinos22]

i love the build there but was wondering if it is really necessary to have two of these RADs considering the hardware you have in there....................you would have been fine with a P120.3 even if you had a quad in there and SLI cards as well IMO

but regardless of that it's great

[EDIT]guess it doesn't hurt if you can afford it heheh ......i must say this is one of the BEST and most practical builds i have seen........all the W.C. gear at the bottom of the case picking up cool air.....if leeks appear in rad or pump where you'd normally see then it won't leek over those expensive components.......just the whole thing looks well though out >>> me likes a lot

[afireinside]

you would have been fine with a P120.3 even if you had a quad in there and SLI cards as well IMO

You're trying to make a joke here? Because I'm laughing...

[AndyM]

Hey, thanks! Pics of side on? Why, I just might have one around here somewhere...



Takes computing to a new level, eh?


Anyhoo, looks like Thermochill is to blame for emptying more of my wallet, both on initial purchase and post-sale support. The darn things work so well that I am forced to retire my XBX2 due to it not wanting to give up more than 412 FSB without acting goofy. Rock solid at 412 though...




And running really cool too. I forgot to check the ambient temp there though, but I'll say now that I dont have to worry about melting the computer down, there is much more headroom I believe still left in my CPU. However my XBX2 is not cooperative, go a MHz or two beyond 412 and lockups, shut downs, random Orthos crashes occur that cant be fixed with more voltage to the 975x to stabilize it. I guess what they say about that chipset being a low 400's chipset is true. So, a shiny new Asus P5K Deluxe should be arriving this Friday, with all the high FSB fun these are supposed to provide. At 3.8GHz I could pull a 9 hour Orthos run at 1.52 vcore (~1.5 vdroop) on the XBX2, so I have some vcore headroom left for some fun I think before hitting Intel's offical 'bad things will happen' limit of 1.55 vcore. Should be interesting.

nealh: I think that maybe my loose side panel was intentional. I have been thinking how easy it is to slide it open to poke around in there compared to the other side which is nice and tight. Is yours the left panel as viewed from the front? Thanks for the Dynamat link!

[dinos22]

You're trying to make a joke here? Because I'm laughing...

not at all
i've seen rigs like that with great temps............
are you trying to be a comedian yourself?

[eXa]

Really nice build.

Tho, like its setup right now the 120.2 is a total waste.

[septim]

nice rig and nice couch too...

[ladderman]

You’ve done a great job.

I like to see work done with thought put in to it, and the time taken to get good results.

Looking through your photos I see the pump doesn’t have any clamps on it. I’d recommend using clamps on everything just to be on the safe side.

I’ll be moding the drive bays on my TJ07 shortly to take two HDDs. I think I might try to have the running across the bays like they would in the base.

[nealh]

nealh: I think that maybe my loose side panel was intentional. I have been thinking how easy it is to slide it open to poke around in there compared to the other side which is nice and tight. Is yours the left panel as viewed from the front? Thanks for the Dynamat link!

Yes..I bet you are correct

The ebay was really nice to work with...I needed it shipped the next becasue of my trip..and they did..I have it sitting in my house
$60 for 12 sq ft vs 4 sq ft with the kit from directon at $30(shipped)..if I recall this was for on 18x32 sheet .. so 2 kits were $58 shipped=2 sheets of 18x32
the 12 sq ft is 4 sheets of 12"x36"

there price looks "weird"..$40 plus $20 shipping...this stuff retails at $100

Hey anone know if the sunbeam fan controller will fit on the side of the 5 1/4 drives cages..I saw someone place there fan controller here in a review....If I use the sunbeam I will nedd to disconnect the crazy bright lights

[nealh]

BTW..How come only a few make a cut out in the divider between top and bottom chamber to allow removal of the entire loop...makes for easier bleeding

[PCTC3]

Nice job man.

I'm actually doing a similar build on a TJ-07. I think I'm going to use yours as a base-off.

I'm actually doing a dual-loop.

First Loop:
PTS DDCT-01s w/ Custom Delrin Top
Thermochill PA 120.3 or Swiftech MCR320
D-Tek Fuzion CPU Block
Danger Den 680i NB Block
Swiftech MCW30 SB Block
Swiftech MicroRes

Second Loop:
Swiftech MCP655
Thermochill PA 120.2 or Swiftech MCR220
2x EK-FC79 Full GPU Blocks
Swiftech MicroRes

Nice wire management job. Well, we'll have to see how well my eVGA 680i-A1 with a E6400 compares? eh? It tops out at 3.733 GHz @ 1.55v BIOS (1.52 actual) in 66F ambient on an Thermalright Ultra120. But I think it's chipset limited b/c my 680i doesn't like to boot above 470 and when it does, it tops out around 500 MHz.

But I know those Thermochills are big holes in the wallet, eh? That's why I might have to go with the Swiftechs. $160 cheaper overall. We'll have to see what my final budget will be.

But anyways,
GREAT JOB.

[AndyM]

But I know those Thermochills are big holes in the wallet, eh? That's why I might have to go with the Swiftechs. $160 cheaper overall. We'll have to see what my final budget will be.
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Sounds like a sweet setup...but fill that space up, Thermochill!

[eXceeded]

All my parts for my build has arrived, I'm not sure when I'm going to build it though because I was actually expecting AMD to release Agena FX in or around July...
Look at my worklog in my sig, I'll add pics of all the hardware soon

[AndyM]

Ok, so I got that new P5K motherboard all setup and found a 24/7 CPU speed that has a happy medium of not going over 1.55 volts vcore (real), and stays at a decent temperature under maximum load. Now let's see how this new motherboard will let me take advantage of those Thermochills...

Drumroll for the OMG!!! Overclock.....




Wow, didnt I post a screenie of a 9 hour 3.8 run with the BadAxe2 board already in this thread? Now there's a good investment, huh? Small difference between the two though, this P5K board doesnt mysteriously turn off or lock up when doing something besides Orthos at 3.8 speed. I played a bit with 3.9Ghz, but fear of going to the 1.6 volt range kept me away from making that Orthos stable, that and getting really hot running small FFT's, to the tune of the low 70's in TAT. Maybe I'll turn on the AC and re-check the CPU block mounting should 4.0 GHz become a goal again.

I'm thinking of getting a bigNG fan controller for this next, I'm getting the impression that some sort of beyond 7 volt fan speeds will be a good idea at times with 24/7 3.8 Ghz. I did some reading on it today and I gotta say, I'm impressed. Just gotta wait for PPC's to get it in stock. Anyone have any experience with ordering this from overseas somewhere?

[tylerdustin2008]

That looks GREAT! I wanted that case, but i knew i would wna tphase change eventually, so i just opted for a U2-UFO.

[jabski]

lol
On my last box it took a pair of 14 inch surgeons' forcepts to reach and reset the bios jumper.

same here lol

[AndyM]

I finished up the install of the P5K Deluxe board tonight making it presentable and changed out that bad SATA cable, so a photo or two of the job...

Going from the XBX2 to the P5K involved the video card dropping down a slot. I had to put a longer tube from the CPU block to the video card block, that wasnt too much of a biggie. However the pump to video card block tube was a little longer than needed also. I was thinking of trimming it down, but then the thought of having to dig the pump out to wrestle some 7/16's onto the output (not a fun job) came to mind should I move to another board in the future that has the video card back up a slot. To prevent kinks I put some Coolsleeves wrap on it. I also put another one of my famous ziptie anchors onto the video card block to give some more support to the NB block exit hose, makes it look a bit better that way I think instead of the way it was kinda just hanging down before. I also was able to use the Swiftech NB block hardmount kit with the Asus board, much more solid than the hook and spring w/RTV added for better stability NB mount setup I had with the XBX2...




In case you are wondering what happened to the mosfet heatsinks that come with the P5K Deluxe, yes, they are missing. I was doing some testing and found that they really did nothing of value. Poor chip contact with the heatsink out of the box, thick tape, and these devices dumping most of their heat into what they are soldered to vs. through their plastic housing conspired to making the heatsinks lukewarm under load, while the MB was hot when feeling the top edge of it. Since the heatsinks kind of did nothing but block airflow, I took them off so the two 120mm fans blowing down onto the MB could do the job better. Looks like the 'real' heatsink is right here...there's some nice meaty traces, eh?

[sick_g4m3r]

THats a reallllllllllllllllll beauty!!!!

EXCELLENT JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jedda]

I'm thinking of getting a bigNG fan controller for this next, I'm getting the impression that some sort of beyond 7 volt fan speeds will be a good idea at times with 24/7 3.8 Ghz. I did some reading on it today and I gotta say, I'm impressed. Just gotta wait for PPC's to get it in stock. Anyone have any experience with ordering this from overseas somewhere?

Yeah, they're good.
You can get it direct from M-cube's on-site store but the cost blows out with shipping and the euro's exchange rate. I'm in Australia and found it much cheaper to ship from Performance PCs than M-cube, so for you it's even more so.
Just sourced the digital probe expansion from PPC and it worked out at 50% less.

[Bei Fei]

*drool* I need a TJ-07. Nice job I think this will be my next case.