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    Quote Originally Posted by Repoman View Post
    Hehe, I have to find max stable at 1.35v first This is my usual method, and it's treated me well. Both cores are down to 45/45C this morning, and it's passed the first 6 Prime95 tests so far at 3000MHz@1.35v - better than the two it got last night



    No, I think if I had used stock cooling at first it would have burned right up. Core 1 would have gotten close to 90C since it was at 75 with the Ultra-120..
    Damn im still thinking which is the best for this stepping, SS or WC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunks View Post
    Damn im still thinking which is the best for this stepping, SS or WC.
    Probably SS, look what biohead got on his.

    New result - 3GHz with stock voltage

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    Got an Opty 170 stepping LCB9E 0704XPMW. 2.9ghz @ 1.39v cooled with scythe ninja and Nexus Real Silent (1000rpm) @ 75% (silent freak here :p).

    IHS has been removed - Full load with orthos is around 65/63C but it runs around 56/54C running folding@home

    Temps were hitting 70C with the IHS on

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    Hi guys,

    I am new in here,a month ago i got an Opteron 185 2.6Ghz Toledo core(OSA185CDBOX).

    I push it up to 3060Mhz 1.425v on stock cooler,but temps went over 70ºC when i stress it with OCCT so i had a big house fan to blow in there trying to keep temps bellow 70ºC.

    I can't find a lot of informations about this chip or any reviews,anyone know how high can this chip go with water cooling?Is it worth to get a water cooling?

    At the moment i have it up to 2952Mhz at 1.33v.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stealth View Post
    Hi guys,

    I am new in here,a month ago i got an Opteron 185 2.6Ghz Toledo core(OSA185CDBOX).

    I push it up to 3060Mhz 1.425v on stock cooler,but temps went over 70ºC when i stress it with OCCT so i had a big house fan to blow in there trying to keep temps bellow 70ºC.

    I can't find a lot of informations about this chip or any reviews,anyone know how high can this chip go with water cooling?Is it worth to get a water cooling?

    At the moment i have it up to 2952Mhz at 1.33v.

    Because i don't know how to put my specks in my signature,i will write them here:

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    Thanks a lot.

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    Very nice chip, you can probably get it a good bit further with water than you can now. When my 170 was hitting 70C+ on stock volts, it wouldn't even do 2900MHz stable (not sure what actual stable was as I never tested). Now that the IHS is off and it's at 45C, it does 3000MHz on stock volts - that should be comparable to the temp decrease you'll get.
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    Thanks Repoman,

    What actually try to find out is,if my chip will do something like 3.2+Ghz then i think it's worth to spend money for water cooling,if i only get up to 3.1 i don't think is worth it.

    The difference in performance from 2952 to 3100 is not that much to spend 350-400 euro.

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    Watercooling for your CPU wont cost 340-400€

    I t's not cheap but more like 200€ depending on where you get it and shipping prices, plus it's not something you throw away when you get a new system. I like to see it as a long term solution.

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    Thanks for reply v0dka,

    May in Holland is cheaper but here in Greece...,i was lokking at a Swiftech kit for watercooling CPU and graphics and costs 350 euro.

    http://www.plaisio.gr/product.aspx?c...product=943436

    Well,i can get cheaper things but i don't want to put in the system something i don't really trust.

    Also to get it from another country i don't think it's worth,it will cost the same with shipping.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Repoman View Post
    Probably SS, look what biohead got on his.

    New result - 3GHz with stock voltage

    wow the 170 is nice chip....its so cheap now to

    i paid like $150 for my 165 back in february.

    ok well anyways....i have an opty 165 and the voltage says its at about 1.39 in speedfan and cpuz.....its set at 1.350 in the bios

    yurs says 1.32.... did u lower it? or is it still stock.



    now when i want to overclock more, how should i handle the HT link?

    im not sure how far i can push it with this stepping lcb9e 0704tpmw
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    Quote Originally Posted by tbone8ty View Post
    ....i have an opty 165 and the voltage says its at about 1.39 in speedfan and cpuz.....its set at 1.350 in the bios

    yurs says 1.32.... did u lower it? or is it still stock.

    now when i want to overclock more, how should i handle the HT link?

    im not sure how far i can push it with this stepping lcb9e 0704tpmw
    To lower the voltage you need to enable Over Voltage CPU VCore in BIOS.

    This will add 0.205v to the value you have in BIOS so if you want your voltage to be something like 1.305v in windows the value you need to put in BIOS must be 1.1v.(always you need to add to the value you have in BIOS 0.205v to find your correct voltage in windows,if you have Over Voltage CPU VCore enable)

    As for the HT Link(FSBXK8 to NB Frequency)some will say(including me) that anything under 1600 will be fine.

    I hope this helps.

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    ok cool thanks stealth.

    well for now i want to keep it stock .... i want to keep the temps as low as possible.

    yeah i heard the opty's can run high HT links.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tbone8ty View Post

    yeah i heard the opty's can run high HT links.

    Isn't the Opty it's the motherboard,i could do the same with my old 3800+(venice)single core.

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    170 stock cooling and DFI Ultra-D .

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonzo_catalin View Post
    170 stock cooling and DFI Ultra-D .

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    stepping?

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    It's an old test , about one year ago , i don't remember .

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    whats the difference between the denmark core and toledo core?

    for an opty 165

    ,i saw acouple of reviews at newegg claiming that their selling the demark core now instead of the toledo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tbone8ty View Post
    whats the difference between the denmark core and toledo core?

    There is not difference,it's the same chip.

    Some utilities name it "Toledo" and others name it "Denmark"

    CPU-Z report my 185 as Toledo and CBID as Denmark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stealth View Post
    Thanks for reply v0dka,

    May in Holland is cheaper but here in Greece...,i was lokking at a Swiftech kit for watercooling CPU and graphics and costs 350 euro.

    http://www.plaisio.gr/product.aspx?c...product=943436

    Well,i can get cheaper things but i don't want to put in the system something i don't really trust.

    Also to get it from another country i don't think it's worth,it will cost the same with shipping.


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    All you really need for your CPU is the block, a pump, and a rad:
    http://www.plaisio.gr/product.aspx?c...product=933937 - 55ε
    http://www.plaisio.gr/product.aspx?c...product=926736 - 54ε
    http://www.plaisio.gr/product.aspx?c...product=926914 - 30ε

    Total - 140ε

    Add in a couple of fans (your choice), a few feet of tubing, and a plastic (or copper) "T" for a grand total of maybe 170ε and you're all set for about half the price. If you include a GFX block add another 45ε.

    If you can find an MCR220 it's a little better rad than the BIP II listed but the site you gave only has the MCR320 - a triple rad. You could get the MCR320 and use lower speed fans with it - it would be a little quieter that way but also harder to mount. The double rad can still hang off the back of your case like the kit unit does ...
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    Thanks QuietIce for the informations.

    I need to search a bit more before i decide what to get,i need to find out if the stuff i will get worth the money i will spend.

    Thanks a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonzo_catalin View Post
    170 stock cooling and DFI Ultra-D .

    http://img166.imageshack.us/my.php?image=2730vv9.jpg
    1.64v Vcore, stock cooling running in the 40c range underload??? What am I missing here? Nothing special there at all, in fact the chip is a dud running at only 2.75Ghz with all that added voltage.

    It must be a very cold place, Romania..
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    Quote Originally Posted by AMD Fanatic View Post
    1.64v Vcore, stock cooling running in the 40c range underload??? What am I missing here? Nothing special there at all, in fact the chip is a dud running at only 2.75Ghz with all that added voltage.

    It must be a very cold place, Romania..
    It's only one core too, with the time ran covered up.. and that's not load temp, it's idle
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    Quote Originally Posted by AMD Fanatic View Post
    1.64v Vcore, stock cooling running in the 40c range underload??? What am I missing here? Nothing special there at all, in fact the chip is a dud running at only 2.75Ghz with all that added voltage.

    It must be a very cold place, Romania..
    10C in the room ( it was late november ) , stock cooling ( the one with heat-pipes ) plus Vantec Tornado on top .

    Here's another one : little brother 165

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    I just ran this tonight, not realy pushing it though. The stepping is CCBBE 0610DPMW bought late last winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Repoman View Post
    Probably SS, look what biohead got on his.

    New result - 3GHz with stock voltage

    nice clocks Repoman

    Getting my LCB9E very soon - its in the mail

    Out of interest, what sort of burning in / running does everyone run before starting bumping those clocks? And is it with burning in that get people up to the 3GHz range @ stock volts, or is it just the gradual increase? (individual stepping variances notwithstanding)

    I'm just not too sure about the burning in theory (or myth ), and I was really wondering whether it is common practice to let a chip run in for a while (i.e. 6-12 hours Orthos or similar) at stock before starting to bump things up.

    My current Opty 165 CCBWE 0551 UPMW is a... well... CCBWE really (2.5G @ 1.4v; 2.6G @ 1.5) and I want to give this next one the best chance possible.

    cheers, looking forward to this

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    Quote Originally Posted by WigSgiW View Post
    nice clocks Repoman

    Getting my LCB9E very soon - its in the mail

    Out of interest, what sort of burning in / running does everyone run before starting bumping those clocks? And is it with burning in that get people up to the 3GHz range @ stock volts, or is it just the gradual increase? (individual stepping variances notwithstanding)

    I'm just not too sure about the burning in theory (or myth ), and I was really wondering whether it is common practice to let a chip run in for a while (i.e. 6-12 hours Orthos or similar) at stock before starting to bump things up.

    My current Opty 165 CCBWE 0551 UPMW is a... well... CCBWE really (2.5G @ 1.4v; 2.6G @ 1.5) and I want to give this next one the best chance possible.

    cheers, looking forward to this

    Wigs
    Thanks

    Before taking the IHS off I booted up and set 2.9 @ 1.35, it failed Prime after seeing temps of 65 and 75C on each core. After that I took the IHS off and ran Prime95 at an immediate 2.95GHz @ 1.35. Passed for 10 minutes so set 3.05, failed quickly so down to 3.03, failed again after 10 minutes so down to 3.0

    OCing has become a very quick thing for me, instead of ramping up to the max clocks I go over max stable speeds and move down. It's easier to tell that way what the max will be because you can look at Prime failure times and make an educated guess
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