Work log Project TJ07

[ladderman]

This is the loops done. Let me know what you think of the way I have ran them.

Like I said earlier this is only a test run.

Loop one is: RES > PUMP > PA120.3 > GPU > GPU > RES

Loop two is: RES > PUMP > BLACK ICE PRO > CPU > NB >RES

[Vice]

Look very clean, great job.

[ladderman]

I had a right carryon trying to do the tubing in the base with the two D5 pumps.

At one point I thought the pumps had me beat. DDC pump would have been a lot easier.

Tygon tubing sticks like mad to each other and I lost my rag a few times trying to sort it out down there.

I had 12 foot of tubing and used the whole lot. The only place I may need to change is between the CPU and NB because I think the bend is too tight

That brass wheel on the NB looks like it may cause me problems when I come to fit the clamp

[BigRollTide1]

Very nice work...I wish I had gotton some metal for the res mounts and bent it myself. Mine would look a lot better. The rubber edging you put around the power supply holes looks great too. I almost did that, but I got lazy near the end. I'd would have had to cut a larger hole, and I didn't want to dismount my motherboard...again.

[ladderman]

Very nice work...I wish I had gotton some metal for the res mounts and bent it myself. Mine would look a lot better. The rubber edging you put around the power supply holes looks great too. I almost did that, but I got lazy near the end. I'd would have had to cut a larger hole, and I didn't want to dismount my motherboard...again.

Some of the job have been quite time consuming. I had to keep checking hole sizes and trying the cables to see if they would fit through the holes ok.

[quiet]

Really nice job!

I think if you swap the tubes on the NB it would give you a better bend radius, if you are concerned about it that much. (Highest CPU barb to the lowest NB barb). The NB hold down definately looks like it will get in the way of clamping, i'm using the Danger Den 680i block because the barbs have much better locations. Do you plan on splitting one of those loops and cooling that ram or is it just for looks?

[ladderman]

Really nice job!

I think if you swap the tubes on the NB it would give you a better bend radius, if you are concerned about it that much. (Highest CPU barb to the lowest NB barb). The NB hold down definately looks like it will get in the way of clamping, i'm using the Danger Den 680i block because the barbs have much better locations. Do you plan on splitting one of those loops and cooling that ram or is it just for looks?

I plan to try and do a third loop just for the ram if I can find away to do one.

I may try to mount a small rad on the back case fans and use ¼ ID tubing. I would need to find some were to put a res and small pump.

I will try this after I have ran the two loops for a while.
I’ve got a OCZ ram cooler but the brackets are too short because of the fins on the ram. I might try to make a new set of longer brackets for it

I may try to reduce the size of that wheel on the NB. It's only made from brass

[Aldy402]

very nice detailed cuts, great work , love the res mounts

why didnt you sleeve and solder the fans on the bottom rad?

[Senater_Cache]

I cant really tell very well how you have the loops ordered because I cant see th epumps in the pics.
Here is how I would do it.

CPU Loop:
D5>MCR220>Fuzio>NB bottom barb>res (from the NB upper barb)

GPU Loop:
D5>PA>lower GPU>upper GPU>res

just a thought. The bend from Fuzion into the lower barb on the NB block will be much better.

Also, have you thought about mounting the pumps against the front bezel down there? or on some bracket? I mean mount them so that the inlets are facing up and the outlets are shooting towards the back of the case. I think this may you may be able to mount the pumps side by side along the width of the case front. Also the bends on the pump inlet tubing will be much less and the outlet bend will be minimal.

[hoax]

wow ladderman, you have some serious building skills man.. I love to watch the solutions you are coming up with, the res brackets turned out quite amazing, so did the stands for the PA... everything just kicks ass in pretty much every aspect

keep up the great work and thanks a lot for sharing the experience with us



edit: what if you rotated the fusion 180 degrees? might help if you go from fusion outlet to lower mcw30? sorry if it makes no sense

[stormshadow]

it's pretty obvious but i'll go ahead and say it...

you need more tubing. lol :P

fantastic work til now. great components and fabrication.
can't wait to see everything together (no ram w/c'ing?)

i vote 3rd loop for s/b and ram lol

[ColonelCain]

Wow! This looks amazing! I wouldn't worry about it much, but it looks as if the tubes could get routed a little better IMHO. But like I said, I wouldn't worry about it much, besides, theres two loops in there...

[rbsmontemor]

Thats my dream! Awesome parts!

Rbs.

[Patriote]

Wow! Nice job there. Even more. Subscribed...!

[Grinch]

very nice job!

[DavidP]

So I take it you decided not to WC the SB ?? I would change the NB block out with the MCW30 it's easier to work with than the EK block. That wheel is a pain.

[ladderman]

very nice detailed cuts, great work , love the res mounts

why didnt you sleeve and solder the fans on the bottom rad?

This was just a test run, it will be all taken apart today as I need to clean all to watercool parts.

I still have to sleeve all the fan cables and the cables that run to the graphic cards

Thanks for your kind remarks

[ladderman]

wow ladderman, you have some serious building skills man.. I love to watch the solutions you are coming up with, the res brackets turned out quite amazing, so did the stands for the PA... everything just kicks ass in pretty much every aspect

keep up the great work and thanks a lot for sharing the experience with us



edit: what if you rotated the fusion 180 degrees? might help if you go from fusion outlet to lower mcw30? sorry if it makes no sense

I used all 12 feet of tubing I had yesterday. I would of cut a new peice to go from the outlet on the fusion to the bottom barb on the nb block.

I'm going to order a few extra feet of tygon to day. I may also try to tidy up some of the lengths of tuibing to look too long.

Thanks for your kind remarks

[ladderman]

Wow! This looks amazing! I wouldn't worry about it much, but it looks as if the tubes could get routed a little better IMHO. But like I said, I wouldn't worry about it much, besides, theres two loops in there...

This is just a test run, I'll be tidying it up when I put it all back together.

Thanks for your kind remarks

[ladderman]

So I take it you decided not to WC the SB ?? I would change the NB block out with the MCW30 it's easier to work with than the EK block. That wheel is a pain.

The wheel on the EK nb block is only made of brass so I will make it smaller. Or I may even try to change the whole lot so they all look the same.

I inted to wc the OCZ flex later on a third loop using ¼" id tubing if I can work out were I could put a small rad, pump and res. If I can I may add the sb with that loop. I've cut holes in the mobo tray so I can remove or add blocks without having to take out the mobo.

[jinsean]

What's the name of the tool you used to drill the hole into your rad and the res mount brackets? The T looking thing. What's it for? I'm guessing from the pictures that it's to make sure you only drill in a certain depth?

Thanks.

[ladderman]

I cant really tell very well how you have the loops ordered because I cant see th epumps in the pics.
Here is how I would do it.

CPU Loop:
D5>MCR220>Fuzio>NB bottom barb>res (from the NB upper barb)

GPU Loop:
D5>PA>lower GPU>upper GPU>res

just a thought. The bend from Fuzion into the lower barb on the NB block will be much better.

Also, have you thought about mounting the pumps against the front bezel down there? or on some bracket? I mean mount them so that the inlets are facing up and the outlets are shooting towards the back of the case. I think this may you may be able to mount the pumps side by side along the width of the case front. Also the bends on the pump inlet tubing will be much less and the outlet bend will be minimal.

My loops do go the way you have just discribed. All I have to do is change the tubing to goes from the fusion oulet to the bottom barb on the EK nb.

I played around trying loads of differant ways to mount the pumps.

The way you say about having them with the inlets facing up would mean that you would not able to turn the power flow dile at the back of the pump because it would be covered by the case floor.

[ladderman]

I'd just like to say a BIG THANKYOU to everyone for their input so far.

This is my first WC build and I really appreciate the help

[ladderman]

My loops do go the way you have just discribed. All I have to do is change the tubing to goes from the fusion oulet to the bottom barb on the EK nb.

I played around trying loads of differant ways to mount the pumps.

The way you say about having them with the inlets facing up would mean that you would not able to turn the power flow dile at the back of the pump because it would be covered by the case floor.

What's the name of the tool you used to drill the hole into your rad and the res mount brackets? The T looking thing. What's it for? I'm guessing from the pictures that it's to make sure you only drill in a certain depth?

Thanks.

Its call a tap.

You have to drill a hole first before you tap the tread for the bolt you use.

If you are tapping a 4mm thread you need to drill a hole 3.5mm first.

No it would go all the way through the rad if you kept going, you most work out how deep you need to go then stop

[jinsean]

Its call a tap.

You have to drill a hole first before you tap the tread for the bolt you use.

If you are tapping a 4mm thread you need to drill a hole 3.5mm first.

No it would go all the way through the rad if you kept going, you most work out how deep you need to go then stop

Hmmm, stupid question: do I have to tread the hole? Or it's just too hard to brute force the bolt in?