Vista DRM is F***in Killin Me....

[Kunaak]

god I hate vista....

seems every goddamn time I have to do something with vista, it gets worse, and worse. theres never a solution... and its always bad.

now...

I cannot access any content on dozens of discs I have.

photos, video, raw footage, raw pics... music...

anything, thats a form of media, seems to be blocked.
after pissing around with a idiot at MS for 2o minutes... heres what I found out.

media, burned to a disc, that was not burned in Vista, cannot be played back in vista or accessed.

wheres the middle finger smiley? I need that right now...

if I could have reached through that phone, I would have strangled that guy the second he told me that, cause I knew it was something ridiculous like that.

man, every time I feel sorta ok with vista again...
something happens to elevate my hate of vista to uncontrollabable levels.
I cannot believe that I am expected to use this OS as my main OS for the next 5 years.
sure... I can stick with XP.
but I am a gamer... I want DX10.
no vista, no DX10.

but GODDAMN.... I wanna just find the MS parking lot, and just take a bat to every car there.....

I hate vista....
I hate vista....
I hate vista....
I hate vista....

[dicecca112]

what format are the files, I have a ton of files, and nothing has ever balked from vista

[dnottis]

I agree - I f*ckin' hate Vista too!

[bazx]

media, burned to a disc, that was not burned in Vista, cannot be played back in vista or accessed

.


so a presentation with audio and say a movie clip made in xp wont play in vista?


or is it just ripped music

[eXceeded]

why do I not have any of these problems?!!? I've had Vista since before launch... I've been playing illegally acquired music on it since I've had it. I've managed to use discs that are burnt from XP of episodes of lost as well... Have you tried downloading a new codec pack???

[MrToad]

media, burned to a disc, that was not burned in Vista, cannot be played back in vista or accessed.

While I'm not a great Vista fan (to say the least), that sounds to me like CCB (Call Centre Bull).

Basically means "Sir, I don't have a ing clue on why you're experiencing this problem, but I'm not allowed to admit I'm ing clueless, therefore I'm going to give you some preposterous excuse so we can all move on and I can answer my next call."

It works quite well. People in general don't realize they've been force fed with a lot of good old rubbish until they've put the handset down. Which is, of course, what all this is about.

Edit: Man, I'm ing sick of ing bananas. For s sake, put some , or or something...

[mdzcpa]

Its posts like this, and the scores of other countless complaints, that keep me and my Vista Premium box far apart. I know not every user experiences problems, but c'mon now, the trouble reports seem endless.

I want directx 10 as well. But, I crunch media and work as much as I game, and there is no way I can risk the down time. I've never hesitated to upgrade any hardware as much as I have avoided this OS install.

Good luck Kunaak. Thanks for reminding me why I haven't bothered to install Vista yet.

[MrToad]

I've never hesitated to upgrade any hardware as much as I have avoided this OS install.

For different reasons, but we are in the same situation.

I've two licenses of Vista Ultimate x64 in the cupboard, right behind me. But after dealing with Vista on a day in day out basis at work, they have little chances to make it to my private computers.

Perhaps after Service Pack 1...

However, I still think that the explanation the OP had regarding his issue was "pre-scripted reply 3a", or, in plain English, bollocks.

[dinos22]

that's gay

i haven't tried that


looks like it's time to buy a cheap ass 500GB drive and stick everything i have on there lol cause everything accesses of HDDs properly for me

[mdzcpa]

However, I still think that the explanation the OP had regarding his issue was "pre-scripted reply 3a", or, in plain English, bollocks.

I think you are right on that as well. It makes no sense that a generic comment that media not burned in Vista is unreadable in Vista could be right. The tech is obviously a bonehead, and the phone lines are likely crammed with similar issues.

The real nasty part is that Kunaak is having a problem and who the hell knows what it could be. I just do not want to suffer the same fate.

[Kunaak]

I have no idea what the problem is...
I've spent a hour on google, searching for any form of "disable vista CD content check", mixing up the words... trying to look into hackers sites, delving deep into pirating sites... anywhere.
I dont care anymore about whats legal with vista.
if I have to crack things in vista, that microsoft doesnt want me to do... to get a functional OS... from now on, I am gonna.
I just dont care any more.
vista is so damn bad, that I will take any solution I can find, no matter where it comes from, even if that means hacking the OS to do it.

my last major blow out with vista, was, when I tried to get HDDVD's to play... only to find that vista will not allow you to play a HDDVD on a screen thats not HDCP... which for me, means they expect me to buy a new screen just to be able to watch movies... that I paid for.
I just bought this LCD last summer... a dell 2005 FPW... and now vista says its not good enough?
oh hell no.
hacking is becoming my new hobby, cause vistas so damn bad, that often the solutions are not exactly something MS wants you to do.
did I get HDDVD's to play on my OS, without having to buy a whole new LCD?
yep sure did.
was it legal?
probably not.
do I care?
hell no.
if this is the kinda thing I have to resort to, to get a functional OS... then thats what I am gonna do.
I am tired of trying to find solutions with MS, on how to fix various problems.
thier solutions always seem to either require me reinstalling XP... or buying some new hardware that I dont need.

with the media problem... I havent found a solution yet.
but I do have a few good leads now...

what I can say, is when media is blocked, you can easily see it.
what happens is... you can check the properties of the disc, and see that say 4 gigs of data is burned to that disc... but you cannot access the disc at all. vista says nothing is there.
upon putting the discs in my friends laptop yesterday... all discs are fine.

then do something like put in my copy of fear... which also is a DVD.. and explore the disc... and then everything shows up just fine....

also, download some movie trailers... burned them in vista, with nero 7.6... explore the disc.... they work just fine.

so the drive... and discs are all fine.

I just cannot access any form of media, that I burned over the last few years... unless it was burned with Vista.

god I hate vista....

[crossg]

@Kunaak. You could give this a try.(Run Guided Help) It's for XP but works with Vista as well becuase the filters are the same in the registry. I had the same issues until I ran it. Might help and it might not.

[XSAlliN]

For now I'm ok with XP, but if I was to go Vista - I would Strip that OS to Win2K level - same as I did with XP. I used to think high about DX10 - now that I saw that was most theory and in real time demos sux, big time, I'll pass.

I find real stupid moving to Vista for DX10 on 32 Bits version. If I don't find any alternative I might be forced to go with Vista - 64 Bits Version that is. But that will happen when 64 Bits applications will be something common.

[[XC] riptide]

If you want games. Just get a seperate drive for Vista games. Everything else stay with XP. Done.

[Papu]

my friend had the exact same problem with XP , i burnt him some music heroes and open office , right click properties .....data burnt 3.2 gigs ..explore dvd drive empty as rosie o donnels plate....now im not one to complain but its not a vista problem i burnt it using xp he was running xp...ironically he then popped the dvd into a VISTA laptop and Booom files magically appeared? this sounds like Ms hating BS tbh

2 friends of mine installed vista recently , not a problem atall..

[C'DaleRider]

I've been using XP Pro and Vista Ultimate on the same hard drive....and both see stuff burned under XP without any issues at all. Opened movies, clips, music....all sorts of things I burned to DVD/CD under XP....with Vista and they all open. Have had no issues at all so far.....guess I must be one of the lucky ones.

[ak_47_boy]

For some reason they decided to lock out s/pdif audio and component video Component is the only way i can run my computer to my projector (long cable). Besides, component video was always the winner in quality too. No s/pdif? Their is no other half decent audio output that exists, for hifi anyway.

Vista SP1 is already out, vista has more holes than XP did that this stage. Not to mention being bloated and buggy.

But on the other hand there is many improvements. We just have to rely on m$ to fix bugs and hackers to fix drm.

[FatRakoon]

I got Vista Biz and hated it for a few reasons. Due to all my whining like a byatch, my mum and wife went halves and bought me Ultimate... Nothing chages.

Right, from the off... This is what happens..

You install. Everything goes perfect, btu you enter a username and password, it goes off does some stuff then crashes... You have to go back to that part and enter another user and password - it wont let you use the first one cos thats in use, so you have to have a second one, and no choice on that.

I have tried to keep both users, kill off the first, and kill off the second to cure some of the issues I have but nothign helps.

Now, The Desktop crashes with various errors... Most of the time its rock solid, but when it crashes, I have not managed to find out a reason even though it has crashed at least 100 times now in the few short months I have dared mess with it.

My creative cards all cause some problem or other, my Raid Card ( only used as IDE ) crashes on its first install, and the Vista drivers DOTN WORK FOR IT NO MATTER WHAT, but the XP ones work just fine.

I use FAH but can I get it to run in Vista? - can I fuks like, not without running them by hand and Im married so I do enough by hand these days without having to run each client too!

Games... Bloody hell, the number of games and apps that dont work is a shock too... Sure enough, a number that shouldnt work do in fact work just fine so I suppose its swings and roundabouts.

The problem with Vista I find is that many people bought it, and dont actually use their PCs to the fullest and most will probably not see much issues with it, but I like to use it to do anything and everything and I find it crashing like a stock car and I have asked for help of various issues I have had with it on OCUK, and do I get any help?

Anyway, I have once again, removed Vista from any of my PCs and I am free of it.

I stil have not tried it on my Gigabyte DS3 & Conroe and I have resized my C: to 20 GB to accomodate it ( I usualy only have a 7GB C: you see cos I install nothing but Windows on C: ) and I will be trying it sometime, but what scares me, is that another issue I have found with Vista is that ANY Partition that Vista phuqs about with, becomes absolutely useless for XP afterwards...

For example, my 400GB in the Neo2 when I got rid of Vista, had a 300GB and an 80GB Partition on it, and XP saw it just fine, and could indeed read and write to it as normal... But, Partition Magic 8 would not touch it and the Disk Manager also saw the whole drive as BAD. This has happened on every drive that Vista has either created partitions on, or has resized one.... Only way I have found that you can fix them, is t omove everythign off the drive to another, then kill off the partition table totally and then re-create the partitions after a restart.

So, Im a bit iffy cos my DS3 is my main PC with 4x500GB HDs as my C: and E: ( RAID 0+1 ) and 2x400GB as D: and F: ( Striped ) so its a lot of data to work through and backup first.

Oh, by the way, I frking hate Vista too!

[Kunaak]

I gave up on asking MS for help, and just went for a pirates solution.

theres a certain irony, when the only people that seem to know how to make vista work... is pirates.

[linflas]

I hate to say it Kunaak you are right.

I came to this conclusion much earlier than you, 3 days after Vista's launch I realized the OS and I were never going to see eye to eye on legal terms. So you and I are using many of the same, shall we say, "workarounds" to make the OS actually operate as it should.

I buy what I use, I do "trial" many full versions, if it deserves my dough I support it by purchasing.

Piracy has always meant to me in the world of media and computing the theft of intellectual property with a purpose for financial gain.

Many things I have ended up purchasing I never would have unless I tried it first, a full version, not some half baked trial version.

Just my 2 cents about piracy, intellectual property rights, and just pretty much the reality of the world we live in.

[SoberWarlock]

The first day I got Windows Vista (Home premium 32bit) I was kind of excited. I loved the way it looked. Then when I installed all my stuff and opened up xfire, I have to go through this very useless annoying pop up asking if I want to allow it. Ofcourse I want to allow it right. Now I have to do that with pretty much all the programs I run now.

[Cracker]

I've been resisting Vista so far and this thread is underscoring it for me.

I'm a gamer and I know all the new games are gonna try and aim for DX10 but they better run in DX9 and XP too or I will just stick with games that do or buy a stupid console. They've gone way too far with all of this DRM nonsense.

[Frostbyte]

DRM is the acronym for Digital Rights Management, basically the RIAA and MPAA's attempt to copy protect music and video files. Ther eare also many ways to hack this (check out doom9 and programs like QTFU to get around some of the issues, and last month's MaximumPC had a pretty good article on how to rip your own non-drm tagged content.)

You can use the other partition without overwriting anything. They both should be NTFS.

Also, there is a good deal on a WD 500GB internal drive for ~$115 @ NuevoHuevo, which is a highly viable alternative and gives a ton of space for music and video.

[lawrywild]

I love Vista.

[linflas]

The thing i dont like about vista is how much of a memory hog it is. I have 2GB of ram and the damn thing is already using 30% of it just from booting up. Turned off that stupid sidebar which was using like 100 mb, need to do a few other tweaks but everything seems fine.

Actually the RAM usage of Vista is much better than XP, the way it uses it is different, Vista cache's the most used Applications and such as you use it more often, so memory usage will continue to rise the more you use it, but that is fine, that is the way it works, as soon as you open a program that requires more memory than is available, Vista will dump the cache and open it up for other uses.

This is actually very handy for office and normal internet and such, it just dumps all of it the moment you open Photoshop, or a game or something, so do not worry about memory usage, let it do it's thing, it will actually speed things up.