[Testing] Sapphire X2900XT

[cadaveca]

Since when has GFlops always meant real-world performance, just out of curiousity?

DX10, my man. "STREAM" processing...many different applications.

Now, in r580 vs g80, there is specific functionality missing that prevents a decent comparison, but there are palces where the r580 outshines the g80...and it's definately not in gaming...

But there's the rub. if you have truly homohgeneous code, even then the compare is not accurate...

But the fact of the matter is that once workloads designed for these gpus are put on these gpus, perspectives may change. It's far to early to make any assesment as to who is truly faster...right now nV is...but not becuase thier HARDWARE is faster..it's better drivers.

I'll tell ya right now that those reviews aren't using release drivers for the G80. Those drivers sucked as bad...no...worse..than ATI's current "rel;ease" drivers. If they DID use those release drivers, the performance numbers would be very different.

PLease read my last post, and notice I hazard against a purchase in either direction...I'm not playing favorites, merely stating facts.


Btw...perfect example of r580 beating g80...Folding @ home. That's reality, man.

[DilTech]

DX10, my man. "STREAM" processing...many different applications.

Now, in r580 vs g80, there is specific functionality missing that prevents a decent comparison, but there are palces where the r580 outshines the g80...and it's definately not in gaming...

But there's the rub. if you have truly homohgeneous code, even then the compare is not accurate...

But the fact of the matter is that once workloads designed for these gpus are put on these gpus, perspectives may change. It's far to early to make any assesment as to who is truly faster...right now nV is...but not becuase thier HARDWARE is faster..it's better drivers.

I'll tell ya right now that those reviews aren't using release drivers for the G80. Those drivers sucked as bad...no...worse..than ATI's current "rel;ease" drivers. If they DID use those release drivers, the performance numbers would be very different.

PLease read my last post, and notice I hazard against a purchase in either direction...I'm not playing favorites, merely stating facts.


Btw...perfect example of r580 beating g80...Folding @ home. That's reality, man.

I know all about the release drivers for the 8800GTX.. I bought one at launch, and still had numbers higher than what the R600 showed, but the R600 wasn't slated against the GTX so that really doesn't count obviously. Seeing as how I didn't own a GTS I cannot speak upon it's performance at that junction. Also, why should reviewers go back in time just because ATi's drivers aren't currently up to snuff? You compare a product in it's current form to a product in it's current form. Not a new product now against the condition of it's competitor 7-8 months ago.

Also, I don't care about folding on my gpu, I don't care about side software on my gpu, I don't care which gpu can find a prime number fastest, and I certainly don't care about if my gpu can break down pi faster than the opposition...

All I care about is games, that's it, plain and simple. I don't buy a gaming video card to do other things with but play games, and I'm sure most people would agree with that statement. I wouldn't be surprised to see ati faster at GPGPU functions, but in the end that's not what people buy these cards for.

So, when it comes to video cards, frames per second with AA and AF maxed out is the only reality that matters to an overwhelming majority of card owners. Theres those who see things differently, and to them gpgpu makes a difference, but for the most part it's in game numbers that decide what graphics card they buy.

So yes, I'm still standing by my prior statement that it's very much possible for the G80 to be faster than the R600, even though the R600 can perform more GFlops.