Dual Core Opteron Thread #2

[Sn0wm@n]

ill put the result on my santa-anna 1210 this week end when ill have it running.. but it wont be on some top end ram.. so i wont expect some crazy numbers on air.. but still gonna give it a shot

[cursivearmy1]

yo I got an opty 1212 rig for folding running now do I have to run hotfixes for it?

[SPQQKY]

[EDORiAN]

Hi all!

Can you help me?

I need to know if this 165 have coldbug.

I it's now running with peltier at -15ºC but I want to run it with a vapochill LS

It has this stepping

OSA165DAA6CD
CCBBE 0610DPMW
1434904C60426


I buy it?


Thanks!

[Lastviking]

Hi all!

Can you help me?

I need to know if this 165 have coldbug.

I it's now running with peltier at -15ºC but I want to run it with a vapochill LS

It has this stepping

OSA165DAA6CD
CCBBE 0610DPMW
1434904C60426


I buy it?


Thanks!

It got coldbug....

about 350 htt and +-0c (you will get higher on air than Vapo LS)

You need to get a 185 with higher multi if you want to run the new Opteron on Vapo LS

[EDORiAN]

Thanks Lastviking. I continue looking for one.

The market of good 939 for vapo LS in spain is now so poor.


Thanks!!

[Smiffy]

Hi All
What do Opteron 170s overclock like compared to 165s?
Im stuck here with a DFI RDX200 which doesn't go much past 300Mhz fsb so I think a 170 may be better than a 165.

TA for any help
Smiffy

[freakBYnature]

Hi All
What do Opteron 170s overclock like compared to 165s?
Im stuck here with a DFI RDX200 which doesn't go much past 300Mhz fsb so I think a 170 may be better than a 165.

TA for any help
Smiffy

Stick to your 165... my 170 will go past 2.6, but when I set it to 2.8 it's not orthos stable. If I set 1.5V it won't boot... even at 2 GHz... strange behaviour if you ask me!

[Nil Einne]

I suspect the average OC on the 170 will be a bit higher then the 165 but the stepping may be a better guide. Obviously average just means average. You could get a 170 which need 1.55V to reach 2.6g while a 165 which reaches 2.8g at stock. Personally, given the price difference I wouldn't recommend the 170 unless you think you might need the multi

[Smiffy]

Hi
Ta for inf.Will go with another 165 and see if I can get more out of the board.
Smiffy

[Classic Satch]

I was just wondering why we're all still harping over these chips when Intel's Core 2's kill them and AMD's K10's are right around the corner? Don't get me wrong, I love my 165 but I'm transferring it to my wife's PC as soon as I get a hard release date for Crysis. That game is going to chew up and spit out any hardware that isn't completely up-to-date at the time of it's release. Even then, I doubt many will be able to enjoy it at it's max settings without having a multi-GPU config. Ahhh, the price of progress.

[Okda]

very off-topic reply from you

maybe cause many of us don't have wives to give them our current pcs

maybe cause we are smart enough to keep our current systems till K10 is available next year

or maybe cause this is an overclocking forum for every kind of computer hardware

in all cases your reply ( sorry to say that ) is very noobish that appear to be coming from a rich boy who wants to tease everyone around him

a tip for your life, either give helpful replies and answers or don't talk at all

Quoted from ahmad's sig

A wise man speaks because he has something to say; a fool because he has to say something.

[Classic Satch]

very off-topic reply from you

maybe cause many of us don't have wives to give them our current pcs

maybe cause we are smart enough to keep our current systems till K10 is available next year

or maybe cause this is an overclocking forum for every kind of computer hardware

in all cases your reply ( sorry to say that ) is very noobish that appear to be coming from a rich boy who wants to tease everyone around him

a tip for your life, either give helpful replies and answers or don't talk at all

Quoted from ahmad's sig

To say that you misconstrued my post is an understatement of colossal proportions.

I WISH that I was rich, who doesn't? Hell, I spent an entire week in March of 2006 just doing research before building my current rig because I wanted to get the absolute most bang-for-the-buck that I could just so I WOULDN'T get screamed at by the wife.

Also, if I were rich, don't you think that I would have gone over to the "Dark Side" lol, and bought an Intel rig? Judging by every review in the past few months, there is absolutely no reason to upgrade at this time. Those who have upgraded from relatively high-end dual core A64's to Core 2's are going to realize their folly when the actual "next-gen" games are released and understand that jumping the gun on the Core 2's was unjustified.

I apologize if I came off wrong. Believe me, I love overclocking because it enables me to extract the maximum performance vs price that I can.

Finally, I'm not a "boy." I'm 37 with a beautiful 10-week old daughter(3 weeks in my avatar) and I want to apologize once again for not choosing my words more carefully.

[QuietIce]

Hi All
What do Opteron 170s overclock like compared to 165s?
Im stuck here with a DFI RDX200 which doesn't go much past 300Mhz fsb so I think a 170 may be better than a 165.

TA for any help
Smiffy

They clock about the same on the same stepping. Problem is, if you get a good stepping the 165 @300 FSB will be under-achieving ...

[Okda]

I WISH that I was rich, who doesn't? Hell, I spent an entire week in March of 2006 just doing research before building my current rig because I wanted to get the absolute most bang-for-the-buck that I could just so I WOULDN'T get screamed at by the wife.

and from what i can see your research results was 100% success since your rig is very good and can hold you till the end of this year with no problem at all, till crisis is out

Also, if I were rich, don't you think that I would have gone over to the "Dark Side" lol, and bought an Intel rig? Judging by every review in the past few months, there is absolutely no reason to upgrade at this time. Those who have upgraded from relatively high-end dual core A64's to Core 2's are going to realize their folly when the actual "next-gen" games are released and understand that jumping the gun on the Core 2's was unjustified.

and that is what i was trying to say , but excuse my poor English , it is not my native lang and i don't practice it much except on forums

I apologize if I came off wrong. Believe me, I love overclocking because it enables me to extract the maximum performance vs price that I can.

and that is what this thread is all about

Finally, I'm not a "boy." I'm 37 with a beautiful 10-week old daughter(3 weeks in my avatar) a

sure i released that, i said you seems like not you are

cong on your daughter and wish she will fill your life with happiness and joy

[Classic Satch]

cong on your daughter and wish she will fill your life with happiness and joy

Thank you very much.

[nYdGeo]

Hello! I am currently using a 4400+ @ 240x11=2.64GHz using 1.5v. I have overkill liquid cooling, and the temps range from 17C idle to an Orthos-induced max of 26C. I am staying with this system until the end of the year, and would like to upgrade as much as I can. I know that I can find an FX-60 rolling around, but as I have a DFI Expert and PC-4000, I really just need a multi of 11 for reasonable maximum potential (300 x 11 = 3.3GHz (I wish)).

Anyway, I recently read something quite odd; it suggested that all Opterons of a given stepping are the same; i.e. a 170 & a 185 of the same stepping are identical except for the 170 having the multi capped at 10, where the 185 is capped at 13. This suggested that assuming that they are both of the same stepping, and the multi was set to 10, they would both have approximately the same maximum speed potential.

This is a wild thought, but not completely unreasonable. So first of all, can anyone give me info along these lines? Is this true or does potential in Opty's work just like most other CPUs with faster-rated CPUs having a higher speed potential?

Secondly, I keep reading about how varying the potential is using this stepping or that; can anyone tell me if there is anyway to obtain new CPUs of specific steppings, or is it just all based on luck? Depending on what info I gather here, I'd like to order my new Opty in the next day or so, probably from newegg since they have all of the socket-939 Optys in stock (unless someone knows of a better source?), and would just like to make the best possible decision. Thank you in advance for any information that might help me make this call.

[Repoman]

Your best bet for getting a good stepping is buying used; whether it's off ebay or the FS forum here or elsewhere.

About the 165-185 steppings, a 185 or 180 or the same stepping as a 165 will probably clock better, but there are no guarantees. CCBBE 185's have a good chance of getting to 3GHz with stock or up to 1.4 volts, while that's unlikely for other chips (though it is possible). 165 CCBBE chips have more variance.. some might only get 2.6 on 1.35 while others get 2.9+.

[QuietIce]

Anyway, I recently read something quite odd; it suggested that all Opterons of a given stepping are the same; i.e. a 170 & a 185 of the same stepping are identical except for the 170 having the multi capped at 10, where the 185 is capped at 13. This suggested that assuming that they are both of the same stepping, and the multi was set to 10, they would both have approximately the same maximum speed potential.

This is a wild thought, but not completely unreasonable. So first of all, can anyone give me info along these lines? Is this true or does potential in Opty's work just like most other CPUs with faster-rated CPUs having a higher speed potential?

Take a look at these:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=96900
http://www.ocforums.com/showthread.php?t=427461
http://www.ocforums.com/showpost.php...06&postcount=4

Very few 180s & 185s in these listings but there are a few ...

[Halk]

Internel temperature sensors?

I'm on water and I put in a CCBBE0613RPMW last week.

I've always gone by the motherboard sensor - which for now is showing at 30 degrees. However, I've since realised that I can get 2 core temperatures from the CPU itself.

I've always tried to stay under 50 degrees CPU temperature, as reported by the motherboard, but even with the motherboard sensor showing 45, the internal CPU sensors are hitting 65.

Given that I've never paid any attention to CPU sensors before, what temperatures should I be staying away from? And how reliable are the internal sensors?

Something else that should help is removing the IHS, that'll be done in the next week or so - out of thermal paste just now, waiting on some MX-1 arriving.

[biohead]

hey smiffy

i've got a 180 with the same stepping as yours (LCB9E 0704XPMW, #0009)

gonna try it under phase change soon, hope it isn't heavily cold bugged

[QuietIce]

Internel temperature sensors?

I'm on water and I put in a CCBBE0613RPMW last week.

I've always gone by the motherboard sensor - which for now is showing at 30 degrees. However, I've since realised that I can get 2 core temperatures from the CPU itself.

I've always tried to stay under 50 degrees CPU temperature, as reported by the motherboard, but even with the motherboard sensor showing 45, the internal CPU sensors are hitting 65.

Given that I've never paid any attention to CPU sensors before, what temperatures should I be staying away from? And how reliable are the internal sensors?

Something else that should help is removing the IHS, that'll be done in the next week or so - out of thermal paste just now, waiting on some MX-1 arriving.

AMD internal CPU sensors are ±10 or 12°C so I wouldn't worry about the given temps too much. It's probably the reason AMD doesn't officially support the internal sensor.

The error seems to be a simple calibration offset, not erratic readings, so it's OK to use for temp differences, just not absolute temps ...

[Halk]

AMD internal CPU sensors are ±10 or 12°C so I wouldn't worry about the given temps too much. It's probably the reason AMD doesn't officially support the internal sensor.

The error seems to be a simple calibration offset, not erratic readings, so it's OK to use for temp differences, just not absolute temps ...

Well, that's reassuring

The IHS is still coming off though!

[QuietIce]

Well, that's reassuring

The IHS is still coming off though!

Out of my three 939s (Opty, X2, FX-55) two of them are naked. Go for it ...!->

[Halk]

Out of my three 939s (Opty, X2, FX-55) two of them are naked. Go for it ...!->

Well, the paste arrived.

So off it came - much easier the second time round.

The big scare though was when I removed the waterblock, it's on pillars, and the AC5 was enough "adhesion" to rip the CPU out of the socket. A couple of the pins were glinting in the light.

But no harm done, it's up and running. Had to reseat the waterblock, but now it appears to be ok.

Temps are down 8 degrees on one core and 10 on the other - at idle.

Under load, temps are down about 25 degrees.

Quite happy about that!