Official HD 2900 Discussion Thread

**deathman20** · 05-01-2007, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by CBONE

What did vr-zone do? Why would it keep numbers from coming out on the launch day?

Nothings from keeping it coming out the day of the launch but its not tomorrow its the 14th.

**WeaponX** · 05-01-2007, 11:22 AM

Well, that ruins my Wednesday...

**XeRo** · 05-01-2007, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by WeaponX

Well, that ruins my Wednesday...

You can look at the Ultra numbers.

**mascaras** · 05-01-2007, 11:27 AM

wait for more results , x2900 with windows XP 3dmark 2006 its very good

remember this?? :

Originally Posted by Kinc

Dailytechs benchmarks are inaccurate. Atleast in terms of 3dmark 06

regards

**WeaponX** · 05-01-2007, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by XeRo

You can look at the Ultra numbers.

Woot?

**ownage** · 05-01-2007, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by Lizardus

eeee???
TMU=texture mapping unit ??
It was even in geforce 1

yep, but i mean lots have chanced with the TMU's

**theteamaqua** · 05-01-2007, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by ownage

Must R600 news is BULL

, Fudzilla has to shut up.
...

hahaha thats funny .. that list has everything the R600 has , while G80 has nothing ... and that list is bias, thats what that list tells me

**cantankerous** · 05-01-2007, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by deathman20

Nothings from keeping it coming out the day of the launch but its not tomorrow its the 14th.

bollocks, should have guessed, I suppose I will add yet another disappointment to my list of crap about the release of this card.

**mascaras** · 05-01-2007, 12:41 PM

**cantankerous** · 05-01-2007, 12:43 PM

[QUOTE=deathman20;2163687]What I think they mean by that is ATI cards can use crossfire on any board. nVidia can't since they require there board unless you get modified drivers.

Not any board, just any crossfire enabled board such as intel or ATI based chipsets. We can't run ATI based crossfire on SLI chipsets. Same is true for Nvidia based cards needing an nforce based chipset to run SLI, you couldn't run SLI on an intel or ATI based chipset.

**bluep3ace** · 05-01-2007, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by mascaras

reminds me of the day of the 9600xt/9800xt.
i got my Half Life 2 from the included bundle card. and i still play it with my 9600xt
>.<

**perkam** · 05-01-2007, 12:52 PM

All these ppl undermining the cards lol...I seriously need to get some popcorn.

Though I'll be saving that for the Xtreme 3d Section in a couple of days

Perkam

**mascaras** · 05-01-2007, 12:57 PM

Originally Posted by perkam

All these ppl undermining the cards lol...I seriously need to get some popcorn.

Though I'll be saving that for the Xtreme 3d Section in a couple of days

Perkam

I think some ppl will be admired with 2k6 score on windows XP

**wickedld9** · 05-01-2007, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by cantankerous

bollocks, should have guessed, I suppose I will add yet another disappointment to my list of crap about the release of this card.

As I said, blame VR-Zone for spreading that crap rumor of the date moving. The launch date has been set for well over a month and hasn't changed.

Originally Posted by mascaras

I think some ppl will be admired with 2k6 score on windows XP

But we saw how well that worked for the 8600 GT and GTS. They have great 3D Mark 06 scores but are terrible in games.

I'm not going to say anything about how it performs, I'm simply saying that 3DMark can paint a shady picture.

**voltaire2030** · 05-01-2007, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by Gnome

that crysis bench is on par with other rumors saying ~+4 fps on average for hd2900. I hope that bench is real, because if it is that means that 8800 and hd2900 owners can play @ 1600x1200 4xfsaa 16x aniso with a decent framerate. Normally we should get more info tommorow :p

Personally i hope the hd2900xt is faster then the 8800gtx, just to make nvidia release (yet again) that magic driver they keep for when ati launches their new cards... now everyone has cards to play crysis on their 1080p screens...

la vie serait belle!

La vie SERA belle !

**Lightman** · 05-01-2007, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by mascaras

I think some ppl will be admired with 2k6 score on windows XP

Can you give any ballpark figure (example 8800gtx <(<<) R600XT)??

Please!!

**DilTech** · 05-01-2007, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by wickedld9

For G80 it is vaporware, I've actually seen demos for ATI's implementation and they are pushing it hard. NVIDIA has not said anything about physics for the last 6 months.

For those expecting non-NDA numbers tomorrow, you're going to be upset. You can blame VR-Zone.

The smoke demo and cascade demo both show off the gpu doing the physics... Any 8 series owner can run them now.

It's not vaporware.

**theteamaqua** · 05-01-2007, 01:50 PM

i think 8800Ultra will perform about the same as R600XTX , as b4 ... R600 might win on some apps, and Ultra might win on some apps ... i dont think there will be a huge gap between the 2

**Kasparz** · 05-01-2007, 01:56 PM

Does anyone know, if there's supposed to be software voltage control on hd series cards?

**cantankerous** · 05-01-2007, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by wickedld9

As I said, blame VR-Zone for spreading that crap rumor of the date moving. The launch date has been set for well over a month and hasn't changed.

But we saw how well that worked for the 8600 GT and GTS. They have great 3D Mark 06 scores but are terrible in games.

I'm not going to say anything about how it performs, I'm simply saying that 3DMark can paint a shady picture.

I agree with this. I couldn't care less about 3Dmark when my games see next to no boost from my current card. I am really hoping for some Fear fps increases like the GTX sports.

**theteamaqua** · 05-01-2007, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Kasparz

Does anyone know, if there's supposed to be software voltage control on hd series cards?

yeha like X1900 with ATI tool that was nice.. anyone has any info on that??

**xVeinx** · 05-01-2007, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by DilTech

The smoke demo and cascade demo both show off the gpu doing the physics... Any 8 series owner can run them now.

It's not vaporware.

Both are going to be able to do physics, and as with graphics in general, their respective algorithms will likely see better realism in different circumstances with each. The issue is getting to a point where games are able to begin offloading the work to the GPU rather than the CPU, and to experiment with newer algorithms. It'll be a little while before both DX10 and Physics become more of a battle ground for ATI and Nvidia I suspect...

**XS2K** · 05-01-2007, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by wickedld9

For G80 it is vaporware, I've actually seen demos for ATI's implementation and they are pushing it hard. NVIDIA has not said anything about physics for the last 6 months.

For those expecting non-NDA numbers tomorrow, you're going to be upset. You can blame VR-Zone.

Both GPU's cand do physics but they are both "vaporware" if no one is taking advantage of their capabilities in games....

Ageia Physics is on the market for a year or more and how many games realy take advantage of it's capabilities?
Most games use in-house physics engines...

**cadaveca** · 05-01-2007, 02:35 PM

Phys-X has Rainbowsix vegas, SC: DA, Ghost recon, Bet ON soldier, Infernal, City of Villians, and a few others. At least there are supporting titles.

Vegas and SC: DA do not mention support, but both install Phys-X driver when installing game.

Gears of War also uses Phys-X tech...although how...is up to you to find out.

**cantankerous** · 05-01-2007, 02:38 PM

the new Alpha Prime which was just released yesterday in English supports it as does the new cell factor revolutions which is out next week.

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