Official 8800 Ultra Review Discussion Thread

[kuhla]

I wonder if these improvements are the kind of thing we would see on an 8900 series despite those rumors that they are going straight to G90.

like putting a rocket engine on go-cart.

It has been done

The real question is how BIG is the rocket you are attaching?

[kemo]

Not to mention that they are comparing games on 1280X1024 and 1024X768

[jas420221]

Just remind that R600XT (same as XTX since they're just the same only differ the 1GB GDDR4) is gonna match only with 8600 model, so, I think is worthless compare these cards.

8600??? Son it will SMOKE an 8600...

You meant 8800gts right?

[virtualrain]

Let's face it, the 8800 Ultra is nVidia's gift to current GTX owners in the form of a BIOS upgrade

[perkam]

LOL Look closely at X-values on those graphs XD

Also, 14k is nice on the 06, but it isn't far enough for the XT not to catch it.

Pekram

[theteamaqua]

well the next fastest GPU is what im getting whether the 8900GTX or 9800GTX from nv, or ATI HD2950XTX or soemthing ... w/ei s fastest end of this year is what im getting .... i havent played a single game that can bring down a single 8800GTS 648/999 to its knee at 1680x1050 2xAA let alone SLI

[theteamaqua]

i do like nv's approach however ... since they can get enough power out a two 6 pin PCI-E , while AMD needs 8 pin + 6 pin

[HamidFULL]

my loved came!

[J-Mag]

i do like nv's approach however ... since they can get enough power out a two 6 pin PCI-E , while AMD needs 8 pin + 6 pin

From what I hear the R600 can use two 6pin or one 8pin for power... It's doesn't need an 8pin and 6pin, or has this rumor been quenched?

[theteamaqua]

From what I hear the R600 can use two 6pin or one 8pin for power... It's doesn't need an 8pin and 6pin, or has this rumor been quenched?

again they include the 8 pin for reason .. it requires more power than 8800 GTX

also there is the overdrive rumor, but im sure u can still oc with ATI Tool and with only 2 6 pin plug in

if u ask me i dont think it will amke much difference, since u can always use adapters, and as long as ur PSU has enough amerage over 12v rails ur ok

[theteamaqua]

god those damn review sites... ahah try to fool me are u?? 8900 is like 1 and 9400 is like 1800000+ on their fućked up graph

[xenolith]

GTX

This thread is so funny... thanks for the laugh guys... it lightened up day.

[J-Mag]

again they include the 8 pin for reason .. it requires more power than 8800 GTX

Right, but you said that the card NEEDS both the 8pin and 6pin connectors and this is obviously not the case. I wasn't arguing that it will draw more power.

if u ask me i dont think it will amke much difference, since u can always use adapters, and as long as ur PSU has enough amerage over 12v rails ur ok

Theoretically you could take one yellow and one black wire off your PSU and power the whole card with the proper adapter... It would be fun to see how fast the insulation melts off.

[theteamaqua]

Right, but you said that the card NEEDS both the 8pin and 6pin connectors and this is obviously not the case. I wasn't arguing that it will draw more power.




Theoretically you could take one yellow and one black wire off your PSU and power the whole card with the proper adapter... It would be fun to see how fast the insulation melts off.

i thinke the adaptor will be like 6 pin + molex > 8 pin or something liek that where they draw power from molex

btw anyone has any info on the adapter?? i wanna see what i t looks like

[Nano2k]

I think it's a bit retarded to start bragging about 6pin or 8pin connectors... The deal here is 8800Ultra scoring like an overclokced 8800GTX, all this for a ridiculously inflated price... nvidia taking advantage of the situation once again?

Where's my ATI 2900XT

[EternityZX9]

LOL
thats pathetic..

QFT

[fornowagain]

Right, but you said that the card NEEDS both the 8pin and 6pin connectors and this is obviously not the case. I wasn't arguing that it will draw more power.

Its been confirmed that the 2900XT needs 2x6 to work at stock speeds and 8+6 to overclock.

i thinke the adaptor will be like 6 pin + molex > 8 pin or something liek that where they draw power from molex

Strangely enough, the only difference between a 6 pin and 8 pin plug is that the 8 pin has 2 extra black common conductors. No extra 12v power at all. There is talk that in the future the PSU will use one of the wires as a sensor, but not yet.

[J-Mag]

Its been confirmed that the 2900XT needs 2x6 to work at stock speeds and 8+6 to overclock.

Strangely enough, the only difference between a 6 pin and 8 pin plug is that the 8 pin has 2 extra black common conductors. No extra 12v power at all. There is talk that in the future the PSU will use one of the wires as a sensor, but not yet.

You are claiming that two extra grounds are necessary to overclock? That makes no sense.
Have any pics?

[theteamaqua]

Right, but you said that the card NEEDS both the 8pin and 6pin connectors and this is obviously not the case. I wasn't arguing that it will draw more power.

well i didnt .. inq and many site suggest it .... also why would they include it if it doesnt bring anything more than 6 pin??

u can deny it all u want, but if those companies force u to buy stuff, u pretty much have no choice but buy it... in this case AMD force u to buy PSU with 8 pin PCI-E

u want to oc R600XTX? u gotta buy PSU with 8 pin PCI-E .. thats like how intel force u to buy a new mobo to support conroe, and penryn .... i dont think they do it intensionally, but its easier for them to just release a new mobo with new power requirement then mess with the old stuff

[theteamaqua]

Its been confirmed that the 2900XT needs 2x6 to work at stock speeds and 8+6 to overclock.


Strangely enough, the only difference between a 6 pin and 8 pin plug is that the 8 pin has 2 extra black common conductors. No extra 12v power at all. There is talk that in the future the PSU will use one of the wires as a sensor, but not yet.

then what does those 2 extra do if they dont bring more power?? i am confused ...

[fornowagain]

then what does those 2 extra do if they dont bring more power?? i am confused ...

All it does is increase the rating of the plug from 75w to 100w (or 150W depends where you look). A normal 6 pin (3x12v conductors) can supply loads more than the 75W as rated. All it means is that the overclocked 2900XT must be using more than 225W.

[Cooper]

You`ll need 8-pin connector to use Overdrive feature. Nobody sad that you won`t be able to OC the card using 2x6-pin connectors and a 3rd party tool

[fornowagain]

You are claiming that two extra grounds are necessary to overclock? That makes no sense.
Have any pics?

I'm not claiming anything.

Facts

1.The 2900XT knows if the 8 pin is connected.
2. The extra 2 connections are only commons.

2x6 plugs, 6 conductors can supply a lot of current. The 6 pin plug's just not rated high enough for this application. Obviously adherence to a standard forces design.

[theteamaqua]

You`ll need 8-pin connector to use Overdrive feature. Nobody sad that you won`t be able to OC the card using 2x6-pin connectors and a 3rd party tool

right thats what adapters for

u can either (im guessing)
1. use ati tool and still oc with 2x6
2. use 8 pin adapters, which not a whole lot of people know what it looks like.. or even exist

[theteamaqua]

All it does is increase the rating of the plug from 75w to 100w. A normal 6 pin (3x12v conductors) can supply loads more than the 75W as rated. All it means is that the overclocked 2900XT must be using more than 225W.

oh .... wait so if u have 6+8.. thats 100+75=175W ... how u get the 225w??

or does it outputs 175w but draws 225w??