air E66 ES meet GA-965P-DS3 "499 FSB"

[theteamaqua]

then show me some good E6600 step 6 B2 OC on air... insatead of doing personal attack , u know what dont read it.

and also i wonder why coolaler didnt go any hgiher than 3.6Ghz on E6600 B2 ...

hes ES5 E6600 chip did 4GHz on tower 120

and andreyang's X6800, redpreist X6800 were crappy at ocing...

ES5 > retail end of story

[dinos22]

ES5 > retail end of story

for now it is looking that way.....i think that the guys are trying to say it may not be enough to say retail= ES=good.....let's wait and see

[theteamaqua]

for now it is looking that way.....i think that the guys are trying to say it may not be enough to say retail= ES=good.....let's wait and see

yes i agree with u, but teh way he (theundercat) said it pisses me off

[ArcTan]

then show me some good E6600 step 6 B2 OC on air... insatead of doing personal attack , u know what dont read it.

that's why we wait until it's released
we'll get a better idea in a week or two time

though if es is better than retail then
already loving my E6300 step 5

[sierra_bound]

For comparison purposes, P5W DH at same speed, but with much lower FSB.

[vkbms]

For comparison purposes, P5W DH at same speed, but with much lower FSB.

*pic*

Yes but the sistem with Gigabyte doesn't seem to be optimized....

[sierra_bound]

Optimized in what way? The point I'm trying to make is that in SuperPi, the P5W DH will always win because it has better latencies at high FSB. If you run 32M, the difference will become even more apparent. There are already a couple of threads here that confirm that. Now, that doesn't mean you can't be happy with the Gigabyte board. The 965 chipset seems to have very good 3D performance. But SuperPi is not the best benchmark to showcase the Gigabyte boards or the 965 chipset.

[mascaras]

For me the Gigabyte DS3 seems the best buy until the RD600 is out .


With a Conroe E6300 , the DS3 beats the ASUS P5WDH in all benchmarks , only lost in Superpi >> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=108077


aparently DS3 its also good with Conroe 4mb cache ( around 460/470 FSB 100% stable stock cooler) , very good results for a board with this price

regards

[theteamaqua]

yeah most people play games with their comp ..

[sierra_bound]

yeah most people play games with their comp ..

I'm not sure that's really accurate. The average person probably uses his or her computer mainly to get email and shop.

I keep reminding people that this place is called "XtremeSystems". Benchmarking and extreme overclocking are what made this forum what it is today. It's only in the past year or so that benchmarking has become a dirty word, mainly among newer members. Also remember that many people have more than one computer. One may be used for daily tasks and the other(s) for overclocking or folding or whatever.

[mascaras]

i use my computer for Benchmark ( 3D Mark) , Overclock and Games , I dont use to run superpi unless to stability tests , so this DS3 board was my choice till Rd600 is out .

regards

[Nico]

Optimized in what way? The point I'm trying to make is that in SuperPi, the P5W DH will always win because it has better latencies at high FSB. If you run 32M, the difference will become even more apparent. There are already a couple of threads here that confirm that. Now, that doesn't mean you can't be happy with the Gigabyte board. The 965 chipset seems to have very good 3D performance. But SuperPi is not the best benchmark to showcase the Gigabyte boards or the 965 chipset.

Call me crazy, but with locked cpu multipliers the DS3 is going to let you get higher max clock. That should offset the latency benefit, especially with E6300 and E6400 chips

[sierra_bound]

Call me crazy, but with locked cpu multipliers the DS3 is going to let you get higher max clock.

Really? This is my P5W DH. Air cooling.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ds7510/4112.jpg

BTW, 9 is the default multiplier for the E6600. When I see 500X9, I'll become a believer.

[vudoodoodoo]

$150 at newegg... hmmm... RD600 is soooo close though.

[Nico]

Really? This is my P5W DH. Air cooling.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/ds7510/4112.jpg

BTW, 9 is the default multiplier for the E6600.

Nice, but as I said more so for a 6300/6400, for your averrage users
Need to see what the same chip is capable of on both platforms

[sierra_bound]

Allendales are nice chips for the money. But they're not Conroe. If you want over 4GHz, get Conroe.

[PcCI2iminal]

Allendales are nice chips for the money. But they're not Conroe. If you want over 4GHz, get Conroe.

and get P5WDH ,DS3 is amazing for FSB but can`t handle 4ghz for benching

vcore @ 1.6v+ is useless

[Nico]

So if you went to phase cooling do you think the P5W-DH has got more head room, or would the DS3 be a better bet? I say that coz I'm looking to upgrade when parts are available in Oz.

[sierra_bound]

The P5W DH has plenty of headroom, especially if it is modded. A few people have gone over 500 FSB with modded boards. I try to tell people that if they can afford it, get a chip with a higher multiplier. 400X10 or 444X9 is a lot easier than 500X8. Allendales will likely be the FSB kings. But if maximum CPU speed is your main priority, get Conroe.

[theteamaqua]

i use my computer for Benchmark ( 3D Mark) , Overclock and Games , I dont use to run superpi unless to stability tests , so this DS3 board was my choice till Rd600 is out .

regards

see, when i see a person with a decent GFX card i know they r gamers

[PcCI2iminal]

So if you went to phase cooling do you think the P5W-DH has got more head room, or would the DS3 be a better bet? I say that coz I'm looking to upgrade when parts are available in Oz.

P5WDH is better for clock

Gigabyte just needs a new bios to run safely @ 3500mhz+

DS3
Cons
its hard to boot @ 390 x 9(air cooled P5WDH does 425 x 9)
no 4/3 dividers

Pros
the voltage droop is minimum
good to oc with low multiplier
cheap

[vkbms]

Optimized in what way? The point I'm trying to make is that in SuperPi, the P5W DH will always win because it has better latencies at high FSB. If you run 32M, the difference will become even more apparent. There are already a couple of threads here that confirm that. Now, that doesn't mean you can't be happy with the Gigabyte board. The 965 chipset seems to have very good 3D performance. But SuperPi is not the best benchmark to showcase the Gigabyte boards or the 965 chipset.

You're right.... i've read those things too.... but i want to say only that in the screen with gigabyte there are some active program and themes service active too... ....

sorry if i can't explain me perfectly...

[PcCI2iminal]

XFX GX2


Conroe ES 400 x 9 3-3-3-12



Conroe ES 450 x 8 4-4-4-12



CPU ：E6600 ES @ 3.6ghz
COOLER：Eheim + hi performance water block
M/B ：Gigabyte 965P DS3
MEM ：Team Group DDR2 1000
HDD ：Raptor 36gb 10000 rpm
VGA CARD ：XFX GX2 stock
PSU: ZIPPY Type R 600w
OS ：WIN XP SP2

[PcCI2iminal]

Optimized in what way? The point I'm trying to make is that in SuperPi, the P5W DH will always win because it has better latencies at high FSB. If you run 32M, the difference will become even more apparent. There are already a couple of threads here that confirm that.

:thumbsup:

Put the fsb up to 400+ against the P5WDH and DS3 gets murdered







XFX GX2 @ 625/1600 for both rigs

[majestik]

So people are praising the DS3 because it can reach high fsb, at which it sucks anyways. Great..!