DFI RDX200 CF-DR First look

**Tony** · 10-15-2005, 07:21 AM

Im saying they are both fine boards, both have plus points and both have negative points. Im not going to judge them till I have both here.

Jason, the CF-BT is a direct copy of the reference board with some minor tweaks to traces going to the dimms, the board already does 300+ fsb easy.

There will be a single 16X version from many companies, Sapphire have the PURE range which features grouper, DFI tell me there will be a second BT board based on grouper also.

Abit have a board with many features copied off Halibut aslo so this may be a good clocker as well.

We will find out over the next few weeks im sure. i have been offered PURE and i can probably get the Abit also, the DFI's will come a little later.All in there will be an explosion of boards over the next 6 weeks, many have the next generation voltage regulation etc so should be a move forward.

**Tony** · 10-15-2005, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by metro.cl

nice but i'll wait and see the nf4 xpert mobo, also i wont need to learn almost from 0 with the xpert mobo

thanks for all the info

p.d. i'm sure i read somewhere before that ati would made a 4 layer pcb mobo

Expert is going to be like the RDX200, if you think you won't need to relearn then im sorry to say you are wrong.

If all boards worked the same it would be pretty boring now wouldn't it?

**Master_G** · 10-15-2005, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by Tony

There will be a single 16X version from many companies, Sapphire have the PURE range which features grouper, DFI tell me there will be a second BT board based on grouper also.

All sounds good to me, just gotta wait for the reviews and take the plunge at Xmas.

G

**T_M** · 10-15-2005, 08:14 AM

Tony, noticed you say you tested with VX.
Any issues such as those i constantly encounter using my Ultra-D with 2.6V being fed on boot up even though 3.4V in BIOS, therefore no boot?

**dnavarro** · 10-15-2005, 08:28 AM

Tony, I noticed the board has the 8pin PSU connector rather then the P4 4 pin. Any idea if users with power supplies from last year with the 4 pins need a new power supply? My PCP&C has 4 pins and it would suck to have to replace that.

Thanks,

D

**babyelf** · 10-15-2005, 08:30 AM

4pin will work afaik.. but 8pin will definitely be better (they don't put it there for no reason

)

as for PC&C u can send it back and they mod it for u @ a price of 20 if i'm not mistaken

**uwackme** · 10-15-2005, 09:00 AM

What the big deal?

Venice/Sandy A64's are SUPPOSED to be able to do 1T 4x512M @ 200Mhz. The Winchester was limited to 166Mhz.

Call me when you get 250Mhz 1T out of 4x512M BH/CH or 300Mhz 1T out of 4x512M TCCD.

Meantime, is the Vtt issue cleared on these boards, or not? DFI needs to implement the heatpipe cooler for the chipset that Asus/Abit have. That stupid hsf on the ATI chip is just not gonna cut it longterm.

The 1,000 point drop in AM3 1T vs 2T is what, just over 1% difference? Hardly worth running 200Mhz 1T rather than 300Mhz 2T you'd get out of the same TCCDs.

Eye on the prize people.... Vtt fixed, Crossfire working, chipset cooled correctly, USB performance at least equal to NF4, and SATA raid performance.

**eva2000** · 10-15-2005, 09:03 AM

venice and sandy were never 4x512MB DDR400 at 1T only 2T - the improvement was only to allow DDR400 with all banks populated at 2T instead of DDR333

**Revv23** · 10-15-2005, 10:08 AM

im surprised no one has asked this yet:

so whats 4x512 utt/bh do under volts?

**EnJoY** · 10-15-2005, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Revv23

im surprised no one has asked this yet:

so whats 4x512 utt/bh do under volts?

Or better yet, 4x512MB old BH5?

**LivingL@rGe81** · 10-16-2005, 06:14 AM

Have you fiddled with the memory dividers yet?

Can you get Trtw 1 to work with old BH-5 on the 13x above 250FSB?, because it never worked on 4 SLI-DR boards I owned & tested....... All other multi's were fine!

**Tony** · 10-16-2005, 08:34 AM

I tried 4BH5 1T and didn't have much luck, it will run but not memtest stable. The stables runs were with 4XTCCD at 2-2-2-5.

4 pin connectors will work, but as mentioned 8 pin is better.

I ran VX last night and had no boot isses at 260fsb, it booted fine for 10 reboots and then 5 more after a 15 min cool down.

I have run memory dividers without issue, there should be no isses as remember the memory controller is on the CPU and that is a factor that has not changed.

I have had issues with my 4000gold, not sure whats cusing them yet so won't comment further till i know exactlyt what the issue is, as fo my 3200Plat and 4000EB kits they boot fine with the same 2gig density so itssomething weird i think probably just with my kits as they work fine on Halibut and the vanilla NF4 from DFI.

**Grayskull** · 10-16-2005, 08:46 AM

lol

**LivingL@rGe81** · 10-16-2005, 08:55 AM

Has the board increased your max memory clocks atall?

**bachus_anonym** · 10-16-2005, 09:00 AM

Part of the Q I have was asked before, but without the answer...

Tony, do you have any idea what NB Core and NB Analog Voltages are for? Also, what does NB-SB Port Configuration option do? Thanks in advance

Great preview... I hope you'll find the way to work those issues you've had so far

**funkflix** · 10-16-2005, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by Tony

I tried 4BH5 1T and didn't have much luck, it will run but not memtest stable. The stables runs were with 4XTCCD at 2-2-2-5.

Ok, then it's not worth for me anymore. I think this "4x512MB 1t Feature" is absolutly on his limit, no plus for the board! Near to instability, even @ 200Mhz and with TCCD.

(imho)

**Tony** · 10-16-2005, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

Part of the Q I have was asked before, but without the answer...

Tony, do you have any idea what NB Core and NB Analog Voltages are for? Also, what does NB-SB Port Configuration option do? Thanks in advance

Great preview... I hope you'll find the way to work those issues you've had so far

Analogue voltage i have no idea but will ask

NB core is chipset voltage

NB-SB enhanced state is reduced latency between the chipsets.

**Tony** · 10-16-2005, 09:13 AM

Originally Posted by GravediggA

Ok, then it's not worth for me anymore. I think this "4x512MB 1t Feature" is absolutly on his limit, no plus for the board! Near to instability, even @ 200Mhz and with TCCD.

(imho)

It may be just my dimms not evenly matched, keep an eye on the members posting their experiences as they may have more luck than i did.

**funkflix** · 10-16-2005, 09:15 AM

Yep, let's wait and see what's coming up if the board is in stock and alot of ppl can test this.

**T_M** · 10-16-2005, 06:26 PM

Love to hear more about the VX 'issues'. I know you said you wouldnt post until you know what they are, btu can you explain the symptoms?
Is it just a no boot issue, or instability, or????

**Vapor** · 10-16-2005, 06:29 PM

Tony, would you say there's any chance of getting 2xTCCD + 2x5B -D to run at DDR400 1T at 2.5-2-2?

**HKPolice** · 10-17-2005, 01:13 AM

I don't think many enthusiasts would bother unless you can run nVidia SLI on this board (which you can, but the ATi drivers won't let you). The NF4 expert should be the same in terms of memory compatability and OCability, right?

**IRQ Conflict** · 10-17-2005, 04:01 AM

Originally Posted by Grayskull

lol

WOW!

**SlackeR** · 10-17-2005, 04:49 AM

Originally Posted by HKPolice

I don't think many enthusiasts would bother unless you can run nVidia SLI on this board (which you can, but the ATi drivers won't let you). The NF4 expert should be the same in terms of memory compatability and OCability, right?

I guess a lot of people who run single card would buy this.
And all the ones who wants to run CF of course..

**CapFTP** · 10-17-2005, 05:13 AM

here I am....go Tony...

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