Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
My boss brought this drive to me a short while ago, they shipped an ES Apex sample for me to evaluate and for me to decide if it launches or not...OCZ are acutely aware V2 and V1 core was over hyped and peoples expectations were a little to high..hence the person who ended up supporting SSD the most for the company gets to decide what route future releases will take.

Vertex is a new drive, new controller, new rules (to OCZ) and its positioning will be marketed as a performance option...Apex (coreV3) had been dropped altogether till we decided to try internal raid.

Times are hard, the economy is getting worse, I need to sell drives, that is blatantly obvious...people have less expendable cash now hence you have to rethink your products. We could have followed Kingston and brought an Intel clone SDD to market costing $600 for MLC...but how many would we sell, that is the big question you have to ask?
Take Asus and ROG boards as an example, they sell 60k mid range boards compared to 400 or so ROG boards similar SKU, I know what is earning Asus the most money here

Overall we are taking a chance revisiting the JM602 controller, but we are doing it with a twist. We know anandtech will put it thru IOmeter and pronounce is crap...thing is i do NOT trust that bench or care what the review will say as you can have a good experience with a product even though the numbers from the bench say you can not. I am starting to think the whole benchmarking frenzy we see with SSD's is not really taking and showing SSD's for what they are or what they can do.

I know some will argue with me here, and for those that do come see me at CES, I may have my DIY with me which has a V1 SSD, i will let you play with it...but i will ask you to say what the experience was like, not how it bench marked.
Benchmarks dont tell the whole story.
Its easy to belive you need to run using LN2 to get the fastest computer in the world, well benchmarks say so, right?
Its just damn expensive to do so and also hire one to just stay there all day pouring ln2 cost a bunch. My computer is faster than those in a 24/7 use, my computer will run after those ln2 rigs blows up or runs out of ln2.
So, my computer then is actually faster than Fuggers and the others so called speedy system. since it be running along fine

Running benchmarks, is just fun sport, to actually feel a difference, in your daily desktop use, that is where its get tricky, does the benchmark reflect your actual use of your computer?

I run cheap ass ram, kingston value, 3gb on an i7, bad timings cl9, and my desktop use is smooth as baby ass, and much in my experience faster than my dualcore 4ghz system.
I want my desktop to be snappy and smooth.
If I press the button, I dont want to wait.
If I load up, install, and so on, it has to be snappy and fast.
And to add to this, I am getting a soundcard a essence stx for my headphones which I will also replace for a more high end quality experience which I also can measure in my use.
I am a headphone nut, not at a audiophile level but a nut.

For me, the accesstimes is the first criteria, then, how well does it run the rest, and then to add to this with cost and price/performance then SSD is the way to go.
Vertex seems for me to be a good balance between price/performance if it outperforms my Vraptor and adds a more snappy desktp use.
I just are sensitive to my desktop use, much more than the average Joe user.

Benchmarks are theoretical values, if the system as I use it, runs faster and I can subjectivly feel it, then it adds for me value to my use.
Ram dont cut it in that category.
Cheap ass ram give me the same experience as more expensive?
Sure, if I run memtest benchmarks, I can see a difference, but can I feel it?

Benchmark programs have been done for harddrives that runs in different ways than ssd does.
And I guess, someone will make a program soon that show us the difference in opening, closing applications, games and use between ssd and mech drives that more show the real usage.
I once bought the hype with ram timings, and frankly I am not impressed with theoretical data.

How fast is the data avaible and how fast can the data be read, and then if the write random are solved, the disk then is much better than the mech drives out there.
No matter the benchmarks.

I am however suprised that m$ dont have a better ssd driver out.
Usually they are in the forefront of tech.