Quote Originally Posted by 1oooop View Post
that's why I get new rads(you can jack them from just about anyone who fixes cars) no, I'm kidding... good job fixing it tho... I never thot that you can do that to fix it.... well, that particular tube was useless anyway so, no worries except condensation
Hi 1oooop,

It is a “New” rad, but who knows how long it’s been sitting in a warehouse…..? Anyway, if you look at the pic below:



Right above the yellow line you can see where the fins have been compressed. And to the right of the white line shows that apparently that general area has been somewhat compressed. When that occurred…I have no idea. But I didn’t notice it until after I started checking things out because of the leak. So, I cannot really expect the folks that I bought it from to have noticed it…..and it IS possible that the damage occurred during shipment to me—but I really don’t think that was the case. These folks pack the rads very well: Formed foam, double boxed, etc. There was no damage to the shipping box to give me any indication that there had been a problem, so I am assuming that it was shipped this way…..

Either way, stuff happens….. Just glad that I managed to get it working without spending more $$$.

Quote Originally Posted by Hoboclese View Post
just thought of the coolest thing ever and this gave me the inspiration.

ok things you will need shovel and lots of PVC

k so dig a big hole in your yard about 2 meters by 2 meters and about 1 meter down
then lay pvc tubing down in a back and forth pattern
then rig it up to your WC loop

i think this will work cause ground temp is about 7-21 degrees Celsius 1 meter down

Hi Hobo,

Here’s a link that might interest You:

Ground loopin' - Look ma, no fans or rads.


I kinda started out thinking in that direction, but wound up heading this direction. Right now my goal is simply to conserve as much of the heat this winter as I can….and see how this indoor/outdoor rad setup works—in other words: Play with it. One thing that I’ve found is that I can run the entire setup on either pump alone.
But don’t think for an instant that the geothermal route isn’t on my mind! I have an area that’s 14’ x 3’ x 16” deep (and can be expanded) that I can re-excavate pretty easily and line with copper loops…similar to the link above. I have most of the stuff and it will probably only cost me $450-$500 + effort to make it happen....

But I may very well pursue a chiller this spring….”disconnect” the outside rad and install a 5K-8K chiller in its place. One neat effect that I’ve found with this indoor/outdor rad setup is that I can actually Cool this room with this indoor rad. Now who wants that in the middle of winter, right? The point is by adding a chiller to the out-building—I will be removing the heat from the water loop, BUT—by leaving the indoor rad hooked up and functional it will begin to behave as a heatsink and help draw ambient heat out of this room---and into the out-building! Think I’m crazy? Well, now that the weather is cooler—I can experience this with the current dual rad setup. The question is: Would I gain this benefit—without the electric cost—by pursuing the geothermal v. a chiller? Not sure, but I’m trying to figure it out….and I have decided to pursue the geothermal first—because, if it works well, it will provide natural cost effective cooling in the summer and then turn around and, possibly, provide heat during the winter!

This project is nowhere near done. I’m just always trying to figure out what path to take next and why….


Quote Originally Posted by theorie View Post
This reminds me of what BladeRunner did several years ago. His website Zero Fan Zone (ZFZ) has since shut down, and all traces of it are now gone, but that guy did some amazing stuff. I remember he used a tractor to dig a 10 foot deep hole, then burried a huge tank down there where it was always cold - then he pumped the water in though his house. Every component of his system was watercooled (from scratch): even the PSU. That guy made some AMAZING watercooling parts.

He pretty much fell off the face of the internet...anyone know what happened to him?
Shame. I would like to check out some of his work. Google could help, but “BladeRunner” is just too common of a username, and then add in the movie, etc

Quote Originally Posted by STEvil View Post
Very nice setup.

I would keep the barrel.
Thanx, Bro. Honestly, I really, seriously think that the barrel is coming out of the system. Right now, I’m working on too many other things to really deal with it, plus winter is here….I’m not really using the outdoor rad setup. But I think that during the warmer periods it actually collects ambient heat, so its not helping the setup. I could wrap it as I’ve mentioned before, but I’m not sure I want to bother with that at this point. I expect it to go, but really don’t know right now….

Quote Originally Posted by 1oooop View Post
I agree, I can only hope to have a setup this good
Thanx. If you are into PCs and WCing long-term: Its worth the effort IMO….

Quote Originally Posted by xTKxhom3r View Post
WTF!!! alot of time on your hands bro? lol nice build though it keeps everything nice n cool....


now make a chiller !!!
Yep, and I like it this way. Gives me plenty of time to chill out and do what I wanna do instead of all that other stuff…..

Chiller? Naaaa, not right now. I’ve decided to go geothermal first. Copper coils will be here today. I’ve already picked up most of the stuff from Lowes. Not sure when I’m going to actually get it setup, but since there’s a shovel involved—I’ll wait for a fairly cool day…

Just keep in mind that I'm adding geothermal to what is already here (dual rads, etc). I will set it up, so that it can be isolated, but everything is remaining the same for now plus a geothermal loop. Hope that makes sense....

Quote Originally Posted by 1oooop View Post
i wonder if i can use a car water pump... hmm
If its electric---maybe…..