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    Yes, Another Car Radiator Thread....Major 56K Warning!

    After starting to get bored, I started looking for a new project--a PC cooling type of project. I was going to do the copper pipe in the crawlspace along with some other possibilities. But after reading threads about the use of car radiators--I decided to check it out for myself. My initial participation started in this thread--Post #131:

    using car radiators...why not?

    Seems that the biggest complaint that I found was--car radiators are made of aluminum. Ok, a lot of them are, but not all of them.....

    So on with the show:

    The PC water cooling system is currently setup to cool 3 PCs (cpu & nb) running 100% cpu power crunching for WCG-cure cancer. At the moment, only 1 PC is connected to this system--the others will follow....

    On May 20, 2008 I purchased the below Car Radiator.....with a plan:







    Add a Mag Drive 9.5 pump:






    Next add the Famous 55gallon Blue Barrel:



    A bit of PVC--and the plan starts coming together....

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    I decided to offer each PC its own incoming water, so I figured that the easiest way to do that would be to create a manifold:

    I decided to make the manifold for 3 PCs, but left the extra PVC space in order to add more later--if necessary.


    The manifold is installed with 1" tubing running down through the floor into a crawlspace:

    Yes, some "wire-management" is in order....


    In the crawlspace it connects back to 1" PVC pipe:



    I decided after-the-fact to add drains to the system at the lowest point:



    It then runs a few feet up and into an Out-building:



    I'll worry about covering things up later:



    Once the radiator arrived, I had to check the fit of its new home:



    Almost Perfect:


    Last edited by Naja002; 06-02-2008 at 08:29 PM.

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    In order to prevent the use of mixed metals (copper and aluminum) I needed a copper radiator! So, I found one! (Most are made of aluminum these days).












    For excellent cooling ability and flow--I wanted a triple core (3 rows) radiator:





    3 rows of nice flat tubing. (Flat tubing offers much greater surface contact and much less warm flow bypass!)


    Yeah, Baby!
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    So,......How to connect the 1 5/16" inlet and 1 9/16" outlet to my 1" PVC? Well, here ya go--1 1/4" and 1 1/2" tubing:



    Next, I had to figure out how to mount it in place. So, I just attached some 1"x4" pieces to the out-building frame work:



    Cut a few notches:





    Then screwed the radiator to the frame work via the radiator mounting holes:





    Might work ok as it is for a Passive radiator, but I wanted more options.
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    Power Options! With summer upon us, things are warming up and with a radiator this size--a little bit of air movement will go a long way.
    So, in order to restrict air movement to only through the radiator--I needed to make a shroud and seal things up. (Please ignore the a/c filter--I didn't end up using it):



    After all of these "projects" you can see that I still have all my toes......well, on one foot at least!





    Shroud built, door and radiator sealed--Time to add some Power!



    The barrel/pump plumbing above has been changed.





    On high these fans will use ~63 watts each. On medium= ~50 w, and on low= ~40w. Not bad at all for the cooling they will offer.






    A little bit of foam insulation goes a long way.....



    None needed on this one though--nice tight fit:




    Next its time to finish up the plumbing and get the radiator hooked up!
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    Plumbing to the radiator inlet:



    Radiator outlet:

    Man, that was E-A-S-Y!



    Now the plumbing to and from the 55 gal. barrel--has to be sealed for a closed loop:

    The red handled ball valve is for priming the pump:



    Into the barrel from the PCs:



    And then back out of the barrel to the pump:





    I originally put the pump on top of the barrel. It worked that way, but made priming it a real PITA! So, I dropped it down to the floor. Now I use the ball valve to prime the pump, and once the siphon is created--gravity helps feed it.




    Time to finish up the main plumbing!
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    Plumbing comes out of the pump (pic above) up and over to the radiator inlet:





    Out of the radiator outlet and down through the floor:



    Time to fill'er up!



    Then put on the trusty radiator cap:





    Add the air filter to the outside:



    Put the screen back on:



    And she's ready to rip!
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    So, I filled it up with this hard tap water and let the system flush for a few days. Ran into a few minor problems and fixed them.
    Now, on June 2, 2008, I have a Q9450 OCed to 3.4 on a GA-G31M-S2L running 100% on Boinc and cpu temps of 46-50C (ambient outside is 30C/85F) and fans on low. I believe that the bottleneck to better temps are A) the current ambient and B) the Apogee GT and MCW30 water blocks.

    No Problem for me though.....I will be more than happy crunching at those temps and removing all that heat--OUT--of this room. The cost savings on the A/C should help pay for the cost of running the pump and 2 fans. Good Deal!

    When I replace the tap with distilled the temps should get better.

    First PC hooked up to the manifold:



    This PC will have an open-case home soon:


    I left extra tubing in order to not waste any more than necessary when I finished and located this PC's home:










    Ambient outside right now is ~67F/19.4C. The Q9450 is still @ 3.4 running 100% on Boinc and temps are: 40, 39, 39, 39.


    I'm curious to see what happens when I hook up the next PC.
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    You guys crack me up!


    Done for now. Hope ya'll enjoy it.

    Still having the "Database Error" thing, so I can't get to or respond to PMs......


    For those interested:

    I just bought this:

    80-85 SKYLARK, CITATION w/ HDC NEW RADIATOR--3 rows, copper/brass--$88.50 shipped

    Lots of Copper/Brass radiators at Great prices--some damaged, some not--check the description:

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    props on your project mate, looks very well put together

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    Does that pump even flow enough for all of that?! Insane, but I would definately go for a stronger submergable pump
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    Great setup, removing the heat (and noise) from the room is really awesome!
    I hope you can expand that easily, it looks like overkill for "only" 3 crunchers to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmer411 View Post
    Does that pump even flow enough for all of that?! Insane, but I would definately go for a stronger submergable pump
    That was a question that I had in the other thread linked in the first post here. The answer--for 1 pc is--Definitely: Yes! There is plenty of flow for this one pc. I'll have to wait and find out on #2 and #3. I think it will do 2 just fine--and maybe all 3. But if the theory holds that flow rate doesn't matter--then it will do just fine! The radiator is triple core which allows greater flow than single or dual core, so life is good. Also, with the bulk of this setup being 1" pvc--the pump should be right at home....

    Take a look at the other thread when you get a chance--My participation starts at Post #131: using car radiators...why not?




    Quote Originally Posted by jcool View Post
    Great setup, removing the heat (and noise) from the room is really awesome!
    I hope you can expand that easily, it looks like overkill for "only" 3 crunchers to me
    Getting the heat out of this room has become somewhat of a big deal for me. With summer coming--this room is starting to cook. And by removing the heat to where the A/C doesn't have to deal with it at all--Yep, life is Good! I picked up a "kill-a-watt", so I'm going to check some things out when I get to it.

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