The LCD Buyers Guide

**Soulburner** · 10-02-2007, 03:15 PM

Actually all 24" monitors were originally 8-bit from the beginning. Its only recently that they started bringing more affordable 6-bit 24" monitors to market.

Originally Posted by Evi

I didn't see anything in the guide about native resolutions, and I have questions about this. I have never used an LCD for gaming before, so I have no idea how they run at different resolutions. I want to buy an LCD that is at least 1900 res, so I can push my graphics to the max, but what happens when I play older games that don't support resolutions that high, or even support widescreen resolutions period?

A good monitor will have scaling options. These let you decide if you want the image enlarged to fill the screen or keep it 1:1.

**ChaosMinionX** · 10-02-2007, 04:32 PM

Think ill wait for OLED based LCD monitors to come out... looking forward to Samsungs new HD-LCDs to drop in price then I will probably pick up one of those as well.

**Cpl Ledanek** · 10-02-2007, 06:28 PM

is this a good buy for my eVGA 7900 256 GT?

Acer AL2416wd 24" Widescreen LCD Monitor

Product Features
1000:1 contrast ratio
DVI-D and VGA signal connectors
6ms gray-to-gray repsonse time
Supports 1.2 times more pixels then a standard 20 LCD
16:10 aspect ratio

Panel Type: 24" TFT LCD
Display Type: WUXGA

Maximum Resolution: 1920 x 1200
Horizontal Viewing Angle: 178 degrees
Vertical Viewing Angle: 178 degrees
Pixel Pitch: 0.27 mm
Display Colors: 16.7 million
Brightness: 500 cd/m2
Contrast Ratio: 1000:1
Response Time: 6ms
Input Video Compatibility: Analog RGB, Digital
Connectors: D-Sub, DVI
Power Supply: AC 100-240V
Power Consumption: 110W
Built-In Speakers: No
Adjustable Stand: No
Kensington Lock: Yes
VESA Wall-Mountable: Yes
Height: 18.0 inches
Depth: 8.7 inches
Width: 22.7 inches
Weight: 20 pounds
Warranty: 3 years

**Cpl Ledanek** · 10-03-2007, 11:01 AM

went to the store that is selling this for $299 and no one seems interested. Weird...normally, this deal wouldn't last this long. Maybe, ppl know something I don't.
Is it the lack of height adjustment?
Tilt is good?
Skin tone is excellent.
Anyone have this LCD?

**Soulburner** · 10-03-2007, 06:08 PM

Wait a minute, a 24" panel for $299? That isn't a TN panel?

What's wrong with it?

**Cpl Ledanek** · 10-03-2007, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by Soulburner

Wait a minute, a 24" panel for $299? That isn't a TN panel?

What's wrong with it?

that's what I said initially and how come all these unopened box are just laying there on a Wednesday when the ad came on Mon. Normally all of these should have been gone.
Negatives:
No USB ports
No speakers
No HDMI connection
No height/swivel adjustment

compensation:
my pc has extra USB
I have 5.1 Logitech speakers
I dont have anything that necessitates HDMI
my chairs eye level with any monitor.

My gut tells me to get it, but I just got this feeling Dell will sell their 24" at deep discount on Black Friday

I'm so confuse

**adamsleath** · 10-03-2007, 07:51 PM

well ive heard the acers 24" and 26" have some input lag...other than that

samsung s-pva for 24" : $600aud
Acer AL2416W 6ms G2G 24"WS Samsung S-PVA (LTM240M2)

Acer AL2623W 5ms G2G 26"WS LG.Philips S-IPS (LM260WU1-SLB1) - i was thinking of this one.

**Cpl Ledanek** · 10-03-2007, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by adamsleath

well ive heard the acers 24" and 26" have some input lag...other than that

samsung s-pva for 24" : $600aud
Acer AL2416W 6ms G2G 24"WS Samsung S-PVA (LTM240M2)

Acer AL2623W 5ms G2G 26"WS LG.Philips S-IPS (LM260WU1-SLB1) - i was thinking of this one.

Input lag...now sure what that means

is it only game related or does there like video/audio not sync when watching DVDs....

**adamsleath** · 10-03-2007, 10:42 PM

hey i dont know really what it means either ..lol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Input_lag

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi2OE6hSh00

it may not even be noticeable...but i read a user review of the acer 26" and the USER said it was noticeable.....but again i dont know if it is a big deal or not....

you're not the only one who wants a 24" lcd at a good price

http://weknow.to/forums/comments.php?DiscussionID=1416

i have also heard users whinging about input lag in dell 2405 and 2407....i have no firm data/numbers...but lag times can be 3-4 fps more or less. (up to 60ms i have read) & ive read that input lag is generally more with 24"+ panels...but that may be rumour.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/displa...LCD-Monitor/p1 - acer 24"...only vga d-sub

but it is now available with dvi-d so at least that is a bit better.

**Soulburner** · 10-04-2007, 02:19 AM

Input lag largely depends on the mouse being used.

**Cpl Ledanek** · 10-04-2007, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by adamsleath

hey i dont know really what it means either ..lol

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Input_lag

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi2OE6hSh00

it may not even be noticeable...but i read a user review of the acer 26" and the USER said it was noticeable.....but again i dont know if it is a big deal or not....

you're not the only one who wants a 24" lcd at a good price

http://weknow.to/forums/comments.php?DiscussionID=1416

i have also heard users whinging about input lag in dell 2405 and 2407....i have no firm data/numbers...but lag times can be 3-4 fps more or less. (up to 60ms i have read) & ive read that input lag is generally more with 24"+ panels...but that may be rumour.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/displa...LCD-Monitor/p1 - acer 24"...only vga d-sub

but it is now available with dvi-d so at least that is a bit better.

wow, that's a lot of useful information

I should have checked if there is DVI connection

I did see Dell's 24 and it did had a lot of extras like multimedia readers and extra USB slots.

I guess I'll keep an eye on Dell's 24 on BlackFriday...where is that BF site again?

**adamsleath** · 10-04-2007, 12:40 PM

dont know anything re bf...but the 2407 is still a fair bit more expensive than the 24" acer. if the acer has dvi it's tempting for the relatively low price imo.

**SuporterPoli** · 10-04-2007, 10:23 PM

Viewsonic Vx922 or Benq FP93GX+? I need a fast 19" for gaming.

**b0bd0le** · 10-05-2007, 04:46 AM

lcds have SDE, which is horrid

also, the contrast ratio of crts smoke ANY lcd on the market...

better viewing angles, better color

lcds are still not there.

**Cpl Ledanek** · 10-05-2007, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by adamsleath

dont know anything re bf...but the 2407 is still a fair bit more expensive than the 24" acer. if the acer has dvi it's tempting for the relatively low price imo.

from MicroCenter website:
Silver and Black

15-pin D-Sub & DVI Interfaces
DB15 VGA Inputs
DVI Inputs
3 year limited warranty
http://www.microcenter.com/single_pr...uct_id=0263478
hope this helps

**Soulburner** · 10-05-2007, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by b0bd0le

lcds have SDE, which is horrid

also, the contrast ratio of crts smoke ANY lcd on the market...

better viewing angles, better color

lcds are still not there.

Right, but they have reached a level that is definetely competent to take on CRT's in many areas. Good LCD's today have no problem with viewing angles unless you are playing with your monitor turned sideways, but who does that?

Besides, CRT's give some people headaches due to the constant refreshing of the screen. Some people use LCD's for the very fact that they are much easier on the eyes.

**adamsleath** · 10-05-2007, 05:02 PM

put it this way im not getting another crt; so i want to keep up to date with lcd developments.

Simple as that.

my gf just ordered an apple imac 24"...that'll give me a chance to check out a tft.
the price isnt too bad...except it only has a 2600pro

but a 2.4G mobile c2d is alright.

**b0bd0le** · 10-06-2007, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by Soulburner

Right, but they have reached a level that is definetely competent to take on CRT's in many areas. Good LCD's today have no problem with viewing angles unless you are playing with your monitor turned sideways, but who does that?

Besides, CRT's give some people headaches due to the constant refreshing of the screen. Some people use LCD's for the very fact that they are much easier on the eyes.

very true

to each their own

**Soulburner** · 10-06-2007, 11:41 PM

For those who have the LG L245/L246 24" monitors, do you have any problems seeing dark scenes? Is the image washed out or is it still clear? I am talking dark scenes only, such as those that do not have much light coming through from the monitor itself.

Also is the glossy coating on the screen ever a problem? Thanks.

**freak22** · 10-08-2007, 06:22 PM

So what can anyone tell me about the SOYO 24-Inch Widescreen LCD Monitor MT-GW-DYLM24D6? Office max has it on sale for 299 this week. I thought about picking one up for my gaming computer. I have no clue when it come to lcd's.

Thanks for the advice
J

**Reinvented** · 10-09-2007, 07:44 PM

So, SoulBurner, what do YOU recommend? I'm looking for a 24" also, and I use a DA mouse. Primarily will use this for gaming and stuff. I was looking at the Samsung 245BW, and that looked nice. I want something that will give me a lot of control over the rotation of the whole panel too. Budget you ask? Up to 650.. Before that, I was definitely looking at the Dell 2407WFP-HC, but saw all the problems including ghosting.

So, any recommendations that won't break the bank?

**Soulburner** · 10-10-2007, 02:02 AM

I would recommend my own BenQ FP241W or the LG L245/246.

**187(V)URD@** · 10-13-2007, 05:18 AM

I am waiting for a new technology for pc-screens. I don't have a feeling that much has changed since the BENQ 937S+ en Huyandai hype.

**Soulburner** · 10-20-2007, 09:07 AM

LG L246WP-BN 24" LCD $499 at Frys

http://shop2.outpost.com/product/517...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG

Anyone know if you can still order even though its out of stock?

**Soulburner** · 10-20-2007, 12:30 PM

Also for anyone who has used both TN and MVA/PVA panels, have you noticed blacks being better on the TN panel during gaming?

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